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Re-Inventions and Justice

August 25, 2010

            1)  I have about eight books worth of research piled up waiting to be explained, but as everything seems to complicate itself before I can get it explained, maybe I should write something I can finish now so you don’t think I’ve forgotten about you.

 

            2)  I thought of this when I was fifteen years old, and have been puzzled by it ever since.   Why is there not an accepted system to measure how hard it is raining?

            The way this could be done is quite obvious.  Visualize an instrument a little like a pinwheel, but instead of the fan blades of the pinwheel, four, six or eight “spokes” with a small, triangular paper or light plastic cup attached to each spoke, so that it catches the rain rather than catching the wind. There is a very, very low co-efficient of friction—like a pinwheel—so that as the rain falls in one cup the weight of the water drives that cup down, and more of the rain accumulates in the next cup on the wheel.   As the wheel gathers momentum, each cup empties itself at the bottom and then is upside-down as it returns to the top, when it again begins to accumulate rainwater.   As it rains harder the wheel will spin faster—thus, the speed with which the wheel spins measures how hard it is raining. 

            It seems to me that there is a clear and obvious need for a such a measurement. . .so much so that I always “hear the gap” where that measurement should be.   I notice this, of course, because of baseball.   The Red Sox had two rain delays on Sunday, and the announcers try to communicate how hard it is raining in the vague, imprecise language available to them. . .it is raining pretty hard; I don’t think it is raining as hard now as it was a minute ago; it is coming down in buckets;  if this rain keeps up we will have to stop the game; they can play through this type of rain, etc.

            Wouldn’t it be obviously better if they could communicate to us how hard it is actually raining?   A “20” might mean that if it rained at this intensity for one hour that would result in two inches of rainfall.

            Of course, it would take us a little while to learn the meaning of the terms, but if you grew up with a system like this, by the time you were an adult you would be able to just look at a rainstorm—even without a reading—and say “I’d guess we’re at about 13 IPH right now”, and

            a)  the observer would be very nearly right almost all of the time, and

            b)  the listener would know exactly what he meant.

            IPH is Inches Per Hour; it’s not actually inches per hour, it’s tenths of an inch per hour, but IPH sounds better than TPH.  You’d know that, too, if you grew up with the system.

            Over time, standards would evolve, records would develop, and the measurement would integrate itself into the weather vocabulary.   It is now raining at 12 IPH in Poughkeepsie, 10 down in Spackenkill, 3 in Wappingers Falls, and now pouring down at 18 in Hyde Park.   A 22 was reported an hour ago in Woodstock.  Eventually a standard would develop to help determine when a baseball game should be stopped:   Baseball games can be stopped for:

            a)  lightning,

            b)  wet grounds, or

            c)  rain in excess of 15 IPH.  

            As long as you don’t have lightning, as long as you don’t have intolerably wet grounds, you can play baseball until you have a sustained rainfall of 15 IPH.   You don’t have managers complaining that the game should have been stopped; you don’t have managers complaining the game shouldn’t have been stopped.  There’s a standard.  When the standard is met, the game is stopped.

            Of course, you don’t stop the game the moment that the scale touches 15; it would be a more complicated standard than that.   You stop the game when the scale touches 20 or is sustained for two minutes at 15; something like that.   You re-start the game when the rainfall drops below 5 IPH and stays there for ten minutes.

            Over time, the existence of such a system would be useful in predicting rainfall patterns.  Suppose that the metropolitan area is blanketed by a system of “rain meters” measuring how hard it is raining across the area.   Over time, computer models would develop that could predict that, once it hits 7 IPH right here, it will hit 15 IPH one minute later.   Then you don’t have to wait until it hits 15 IPH; you can pull the players off the field and cover the field as soon as it becomes apparent that it very shortly WILL hit 15 IPH.

            But it is very, very difficult to develop those computer models without an accurate measurement of exactly how hard it is raining at each location at each moment.   It just seems obvious to me that such a system SHOULD exist, and I’ve always been puzzled by the fact that it doesn’t.

 

            3)  While we’re in the business of inventing stuff in our heads. . . has it ever occurred to you that physical stoplights are now completely unnecessary?    Visualize an intersection near your home, with stoplights.   Now visualize the same intersection, as it would look without stoplights.   Looks a lot better, right?

            Physical stoplights are now totally unnecessary.  It would be extremely easy, with modern technology, to have a system that broadcasts stoplight signals directly to the vehicle, where they would be displayed on the dashboard as small red, green and yellow lights.   Every vehicle would be required to have working receptors, but with modern technology, it’s not that big an issue, and there would have to be a small ground-level signal that would tell the pedestrian when it was safe to cross.

            I think it would be a better system, I think 95% of people would prefer such a system if they did have it, I think it would be cheaper to operate and cheaper to maintain, and the only reason we don’t have it is just the historic pathway of development.  The old system was necessary in the past, and we still have it because we don’t know how to get rid of it.   We don’t know where to start.  No state can mandate the better system until all the cars have it; the cars don’t have it because no state uses it.   No state can move until the other states move.   It doesn’t pay to manufacture the equipment until the system is in place; it doesn’t pay to put the system in place until the equipment is manufactured.   We’re stalemated by the inertia of obsolete technology.

 

            4)  While we are here, I am something of a nut on the subject of red-light cameras.  I have been known to rant about red-light cameras until told to shut up.

            I think that I was fascinated by the concept, first, as a puzzle.   There is something about the idea of being anonymously sent an $85 ticket for allegedly running a red light that just really chaps my joy buzzer, and I always wish that there was some organization that I could send my $85 to now to fight against these damn things, or, better yet, I wish there was some politician running for Congress who, rather than spending his advertising dollars trying to convince me that the opposing politician is a bigger creep than he is, would spend just a little bit of the money running commercials saying, “Vote for me; I’ll introduce legislation to require that any city councilman who proposes installing a red-light camera to be strung up by his testicles, or, if it is a woman, by her toenails.”  OK, you got my vote.   $50 million spent trying to convince me that your opponent is a ne’er-do-well, you’re wasting your money; $25 spent opposing red-light cameras, I’m sold.

            Another way to defeat them, by the way, is simply to organize and demand a trial.  If everybody who hates the cameras demands a trial whenever they get a ticket, that will swamp the system and force it to fail.   But why?  I mean, it’s not like we have a right to run red lights, nor is it that I secretly enjoy running red lights, or that I feel entitled to run red lights.   I probably haven’t had a ticket for running a red light in. . I don’t know, ten years.   Why, then, am I offended by the concept of red light cameras?

            Paradoxically, I am all in favor of police public surveillance cameras.   Should the police have the right to post video cameras in public areas, to be used to investigate crimes?

            Well, hell yes, they should; in fact, I’m in favor of having them pretty much everywhere.   What is done in public areas is by definition not “private”, and one doesn’t have any right to commit crimes without being observed by the police.   Put up the cameras everywhere; hell, put one up in my alley.   You can use my fence post; I’m all in favor.

            OK, well. . .what’s the difference?

            We don’t want to live in a paranoid country.   Americans should not have to drive around in constant fear of straying across a line.   If we have red-light cameras and radar cams, what’s next?  Lane-straying cameras, that send you a ticket when your tire goes out of its lane?   Signaling cameras, that send you a ticket when you change lanes without signaling?  Who wants to live in that America?

            The thing is, I don’t have any intention of running red lights.   I’m sure that I do run red lights from time to time.   I’m sure that most everybody does, but it’s not done from a desire to break the law or a desire to ignore the law; it sort of just happens.   You’re in a hurry, you’re trying to get out of a traffic box, the light turns yellow, you miscalculate how long it will take you to get through the light and how long the light will stay yellow.  It shouldn’t cost you $85.

            The police surveillance cameras are different because they’re not a practical response to petty misbehaviors.   A couple of years ago, a guy down my alley had his garage set on fire in the middle of the night.   We’ve had people walk down the alley and spray-paint graffiti.   Probably the same people who spray the graffiti are the people who set the fire, but who knows?   If you have a surveillance camera, you can review the tapes and maybe identify the people who set the fire.   That’s deliberate misconduct, intent on causing harm.   There is a real need to prevent that. 

 

            5)  This relates to a much larger issue.   I’ve just written a book, you know, about crime. 

            It is my belief that, in the broad sweep of history, serious crime is being gradually eliminated.   You don’t see that, when you look around you one day at a time.   You can’t learn that through experience.   When you compare America today to America a hundred years ago, when you compare 2010 to 1610, when you compare 1610 to 1010, when you compare 1950 to AD 50, when you compare AD 500 to BC 500, you can see that war, murder, slavery, and other evils are being very gradually eliminated from human history, and that over the period of centuries enormous progress has been made.   Not everybody sees that; that’s my view.

            Over the last hundred years America has made great progress in eliminating murder, and really, it would be in many ways stunningly easy to make vast strides from where we are now.   If we could, as a nation, stop the silly left/right arguments and focus on practical solutions, and if we could somehow seize control of the system of justice away from a court system that hampers innovation at every step, we could eliminate 80% of the murders we have now within twenty years.   One of the biggest obstacles to that is a barbaric, punishment-based judicial system that has gotten worse over the last 30 years, while many other elements of the system of justice have gotten better.

            Punishing people as a way of modifying behavior is massively inefficient at best, and is very often counter-productive.   The prison system manufactures as much crime as it prevents.   To move forward from where we are now—to move forward rapidly—we have to un-hinge the judicial system from the punishment model, and get more focus on repairing the things that are broken.   In other words, yes, there are some people who are determined to do wrong, and we have to physically prevent them from doing wrong, but there are many people who stray across the lines because they’re not really paying attention to the lines and they’re not very good at leading productive lives.  These people also need to go to prison; don’t get me wrong about that.   But they need to be sent to prison and forced to accept help and guidance.  Our judicial system too often takes people who just are kind of screwed up and need guidance to live a better life, and pushes them forcefully into the pathways of a criminal life.    We need to stop that.

            That’s a liberal point; there are conservative points that I would make with equal vigor, but you’ll have to trust me on that.

            We all know why the city councils want red light cameras, don’t we?  Money.   You set up a camera at the right intersection, you can print 200 tickets a day.   $85 a ticket, processing costs of $15. . .what is that, a half-million a year?   It’s a sweet deal.  The companies that manufacture these money-sucking machines are there to assuage your conscience with re-assuring studies about how many lives you are saving by preventing people from running red lights.   You’re doing the right thing, Mr. City Councilman.  The fact that you’re lining your pockets while doing it is just a side benefit.

            The problem is, you’re trying to punish people into driving more carefully.  It will not work.   It will backfire, absolutely and without question.   We don’t know how it will backfire, exactly, but it will.   Punishment works through the mechanism of fear.   Fear changes people.   It makes them angrier.  Fear makes people dislike those who cause them to fear.

            Look, I obey traffic laws—and you obey traffic laws, 99% of you—because we wish to be good citizens, we choose to be safe drivers, and we do not intend to violate the laws.   Occasionally we may stray; occasionally we may need to be reminded.

            It would more effective, in preventing accidents and obtaining compliance with traffic laws, if we would reduce the number of traffic fines that we levy, and replace the practice of writing costly “tickets” with a system of reminders, feedback and positive re-enforcement designed to keep people focused on voluntary compliance.   The problem with the red light cameras is that they risk doing to traffic law enforcement what we have already done with the prison system.   It risks creating an ever-expanding cycle of punishment, fear, resistance and evasion.

            So here’s what we can do with the red-light cameras.   I like red-light cameras; I support them, I endorse them—under one condition.  The one condition is, governments absolutely are not allowed to levy fines based on them, or to use them as revenue-producing instruments.   If you videotape somebody driving a through a red light, send them a notice, letting them know they’ve done it.   If they do it all the time, if they don’t stop doing it, even after you call their attention to it. . .well, that’s a different issue.

            If it’s a $10 fine, OK.   If it’s no fine, but when a policeman writes you a ticket for doing the same thing that adds $50 to the ticket, OK.    I don’t have a problem with that.

            Look, I think the use of technology to expand the capacities of the police force is a good thing.   I’m actually in favor of that.   What I am opposed to is expanding punishment as an instrument of social policy.   It is irresponsible to do that.   We should be thinking, as a people, about how we can reduce our reliance on a punishment-based justice system, and transition out of that.   We certainly should not be rapidly and suddenly expanding it by electronic multiplication.

            And if governments are trying to milk money out of essentially good people and essentially careful drivers by electronic snooping, I have a real problem with that, and I think that’s a very serious issue.  It’s a big step down the wrong road, when we have an opportunity, because of new technology, to go down a better road, a more productive road.

 

            6)  My great-grandmother’s maiden name was McReynolds.   When my father was a little boy there was a picture of the Supreme Court in the newspaper one day, and his grandmother showed him the picture, and pointed to Justice James Clark McReynolds.   There, she said—that’s my cousin; that’s your cousin.   Supreme Court Justice McReynolds.

            They were poor, rural people living hundreds of miles from the seats of power, not the kind of people that you would ordinarily think would have a relative on the Supreme Court, and so we were always rather quietly proud of this.

            What we did not know, unfortunately, was that Justice McReynolds was a horrible bigot.   I read several books a year about the Supreme Court.  In the last three months I have read The Rehnquist Choice:  The Untold Story of the Nixon Appointment that Redefined the Supreme Court, by John Dean, and Minnesota Rag:  The Dramatic Story of the Landmark Supreme Court Case That Gave New Meaning to Freedom of the Press, by Fred Friendly.  As McReynolds was basically the only unrepentant racist to serve on the Supreme Court in the modern era, books about the Supreme Court very often will invent some way to tell some ripping tales about McReynolds’ boorishness and intolerance, even if their book really has nothing to do with McReynolds.   He was colorful and different, and people like to talk about him, much in the way that the pig that wandered into church during the sermon and dropped a load right in front of the altar was colorful and different, and one might imagine that the people who were in church on that Sunday morning would probably talk about it for the rest of their lives.

            Over time, these stories seem to be gathering steam.   Justice McReynolds vigorously objected to Jews being on the Supreme Court or anywhere else that he had to deal with them, and he made no secret of his objections.   When Justice Brandeis was selected to the Supreme Court, McReynolds refused to attend his swearing-in ceremony, refused to shake his hand, refused to travel with him, and refused for several years even to speak to him.   Supreme Court conferences—then and now—begin with each justice shaking hands with each other judge, but McReynolds refused to shake Brandeis’ hand.   There is a traditional Supreme Court photograph taken at the beginning of each term, but in1924 McReynolds refused to be photographed with Brandeis.   He refused to sign opinions that Brandeis had authored, even if he agreed with them.  

            Now I read that, when Brandeis spoke in conference, McReynolds would get up and leave the room, but I never heard this until recently, and I am not convinced that it is true.   When Benjamin Cardoza was elected to the Supreme Court some years later, McReynolds did attend the swearing-in ceremony, but pointedly read a newspaper as Cardoza took the oath.  

            He objected to women as attorneys, and he accepted blacks only in servile positions.  He thought wearing fingernail polish was vulgar, and he would ridicule men who wore wrist watches, which he thought were effeminate.  Because of this behavior, my good cousin is often singled out for censure, and people will quite often say that he was the worst Supreme Court Justice of all time.  This is not exactly true—in fact, I would argue that he was, all things considered, a better Supreme Court Justice than any of the string of losers appointed to the court by Harry Truman.  Despite his personal failings he was in many ways a competent judge, and at times, particularly early in his career, a progressive judge.   He was also, perhaps, not quite as much of a pig as the church goers remember that he was.   Oliver Wendell Holmes was quite fond of him, and William O. Douglas remembered him warmly, and wrote of him that, when leading the court due to the absence of the Chief, “he was the soul of courtesy, graciously greeting and raptly listening to the arguments by lawyers of both sexes.”

            Anyway, reading McReynolds’ entry in Wikipedia, I was struck by this passage:

 

In addition, he hated tobacco and forbade smoking in his presence. He is said to have been responsible for the "No Smoking" signs in the Supreme Court building, which was inaugurated during his tenure.  He would announce to any Justice who attempted to smoke in Conference that "tobacco smoke is personally objectionable to me." Few Justices would try, and those who did "were stopped at the threshold.”

 

            Well. . .but isn’t that the attitude that everybody has about smokers any more?  Doesn’t almost everybody nowadays object to smoking in their presence?   Isn’t Wikipedia just piling on here, faulting McReynolds for being ahead of his time as an anti-smoking activist?    If McReynolds wasn’t a universal object of contempt, might he not be singled out for praise in this regard, rather than condemnation?

            And if Justice McReynolds is excused on this count because he was merely on the wrong side of a line drawn across history, then shouldn’t it be pointed out as well that, with regard to the other attitudes that we now condemn, Justice McReynolds as well was merely on the wrong side of a line drawn across history?   After all, the attitudes that Justice McReynolds had toward Jews and blacks and working women, in the time and place where he grew up, were the universal attitudes that everybody held. . .that is, everybody who counted.   Everybody who was white, male, and Protestant.    McReynolds’ only fault was that he held on to these attitudes after others had discarded them.  

            Well. . .no.

            Of course Justice McReynolds’ bigotry can not be so easily excused.   Intolerance of people is different than intolerance of bad habits.  McReynolds was a Supreme Court Justice, a thinking man and a leader.   He is held to a higher standard than the conventions of time and place.   He is expected to search for truth, and to see the truth when it shines so brightly in front of him.   He is expected to promote justice.   He is not expected to be a defender of injustice.

            But I always think of Buck O’Neil, and of Buck’s conviction that there is enough good in any white man that you can reach out to him.   Buck would have embraced James McReynolds, and there is a 50/50 chance he would have made him his friend.

            Buck was a tremendously effective warrior against racism, and part of that was that he battled against the racism, rather than the racist.   To recognize that there is good in everyone is also to recognize that there is evil in everyone—that the sins of Justice McReynolds and Bull Connor live deep within each of us, asking quietly to be fed.   To talk too much about the racism of others, I think, is a kind of self-righteousness, an effort to deny our own sins by talking loudly about others’.

 
 

COMMENTS (40 Comments, most recent shown first)

jdrb
Interesting, very wide ranging essay, which I am commenting on probably too late for anyone to see the comment (it's been a busy summer).

Anyway, the rain intensity measure does exist and is used by avalanche forecasters (I am one) and probably meteorologists (I am not). The measurement, for whatever reason, just isn't used by the general public. In cm, a light snowfall is recorded as S-1,more accurately S<1, hard snow would be s3 or more. A similar measurement is given for rain, R#, it's not used as much in my line of work.
4:53 PM Oct 5th
 
evanecurb
I got a ticket on I-295 in DC from a speed trap camera. I didn't think twice about it. I just went to the website and paid the ticket. It never occurred to me that this was somehow unjust or unfair. I was clocked doing 60 in a 45 zone. I remembered being there. I remember speeding. The thing that was unjust was putting a 45 mph speed limit on a freeway.

Great comments about Buck O'neill and racism. Thanks for weighing in.
4:18 PM Sep 1st
 
okansas
A storm passed through Lawrence last night. The thunder woke me up. Then I stayed awake for awhile listening to the sound of the rain on the roof of my house. Maybe the sound of rain hitting a surface could measure the intensity of rain.

The TV announcers who struggle to describe the rain might try describing the fans' behavior and relating it to the rain. If I'm watching a game on TV and want a sense of the rain, I look to see what the fans are doing. Are they putting on jackets? Opening umbrellas? Fleeing their seats?


8:24 AM Sep 1st
 
jrickert
Regarding rain rates, I notice that mm/hr is used at this page describing a hurricane,
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=45517&src=eoa-iotd
seems like it shouldn't be too difficult to feed that information to announcers.
I've thought about the same lines as Tom, (scale-> computer) but haven't yet managed to put together the right equipment to make it work (it's currently on the back burner along with those 300 baseball articles that I haven't written yet)
8:58 PM Aug 31st
 
joedimino
Great stuff! One thing I read on the red light cameras a few years ago was that calibrating the light makes a huge difference.

I believe this was in Northern Virginia - one of the lights was writing 60-70 tickets a day, on a 4-second yellow light. When they made the yellow light last 5-seconds, it went down to 4-5 tickets a week.

The key is having a universal yellow light standard that gives people adequate time to slow down.

I'm still against red light cameras. But if they were calibrated in such a way that only a handful of tickets were written for the most egregious offenders, I could live with them. This would move them more in line with the police cameras designed to record willful crime.
4:59 PM Aug 30th
 
rpriske
Two small points and then I am done...

1. Yes, there are two Rustys who post here. That is why I always include my last name.

2. You are right that my view may not match the law. I just happen to think that saying it is the law is not a valid reason to consider something just. Laws can be unjust, and any law that says I am responsible for what someone else does with my property if I had no reason to believe a crime would be committed is unjust. (The gun analogy is wrong because if I give someone a gun, I have to have at least an inling that the person is going to shoot it, and since the entire purpose of guns is to kill... well... A car is completely different because the purpose of a car is not to harm anyone or break any laws.)

As to whether a law makes the roads safer or not, that is a moot point. The rights of an individual or more important than the incredibly minor (if any) effect of forcing unjust penalties on the owner of a vehicle.
8:46 AM Aug 30th
 
tjmaccarone
Let me just add: the issue with why measuring momentum is different from measuring rain rate is that large droplets will fall faster than small droplets because the amount of air resistance is proportional to the cross-sectional area of the droplet, and that competes with the force of gravity, proportional to the volume of the droplet, to determine the terminal velocity of the droplet.
4:10 PM Aug 28th
 
tjmaccarone
I like the idea for giving rainfall rates, but I don't think your device would work. Your device would measure the downward component of the momentum of the rainfall per unit area, not the rate of rainfall. I do have a much simpler idea for a device, though - put a jar on top of a sensitive scale, and hook the thing up to a computer, so it can measure the rate of change of the weight of the water in the jar.
12:16 PM Aug 28th
 
Kev
For Hank Gillette:

Excellent!


1:46 AM Aug 28th
 
cardshof
Your rain gauge thingy would be affected by wind speed, so wouldn't be strictly accurate. However, the amount of wind has to be taken into account when determining the severity of bad weather, so...
7:29 PM Aug 27th
 
CharlesSaeger
The most important dirty little secret I learnt in J-school is that more crimes are reported, but fewer are committed. Crime has been falling steadily since the mid-1970s, primarily due to the aging of the Baby Boomers, whose youth was the main cause of the rise of the crime rate in the first place (most crimes are committed by 15- to 35-year-olds). Crime not happening means nothing to report.
3:52 PM Aug 27th
 
Trailbzr
I forgotten this until SKate's most recent post, but the two times I've gotten photo-enforced tix, the mail stated clearly that I was paying a CIVIL penalty. (I have zero formal legal education.) I think the idea is that you'll pay a civil penalty for providing a car used in a crime, but don't have to criminalize yourself. But if you don't want to pay the fine, you can identify an alternate criminal suspect or potentially criminalize yourself if you don't prevail in court.
2:50 PM Aug 27th
 
SeanKates
Other Rusty (presumably not the same one from a few months ago):

As much as I hate having internet fights, especially with strawman arguments and with little chance of persuasion, I will continue this one.

Your comparisons are not apt and your understanding of both the law and the arguments being made by (at the least) myself is lacking. Giving someone your car =/= having your house broken into and a steak knife used.

Giving someone your car is approximately equal to giving someone a gun. Both are incredibly dangerous tools that, upon purchasing and registering, you have taken a specific responsibility to control. One part of that legally obligatory responsibility is ensuring, in a variety of ways, that this very dangerous tool will not be used irresponsibly or illegally. This includes everything from being held partially responsible for crimes committed with your gun if you can not reasonably explain them away, being forced to report either item stolen immediately upon knowledge of the theft, and either accepting the red light ticket or providing the name of the driver. These are things you SIGN UP FOR when you purchase a car or a gun. You may say that you don't believe it's correct to tie ownership of that item with that responsibility, but there are reasons for it beyond mere bureaucracy.

We don't give certain people the right to own guns or drive for a variety of reasons: Prior proof of recklessness being one, and a host of proxies (age, felony, etc.) being another. These decisions have been made, they are, as they say, what they are. Guns and automobiles belong to a different class of property, along with certain chemicals, biological agents, and various other items. They are "inherently dangerous" if you want the common nomenclature. Ownership comes with more responsibilities than owning a house, or a steak knife in your drawer. I'd like to hear WHY you should be able to give something as dangerous as a car to someone, and be absolved from at least AIDING society in protecting itself from reckless danger. I suspect that the arguments will come from some sort of libertarian/objectivist/personal responsibility bent, and if so, good luck. I cannot convince a person with those ideals that these restrictions fully satisfy their desire to do whatever they want with whatever they own. No one could. If, however, there are some actual real world ideas behind why these restrictions do not promote better and safer driving, I'd love to hear them.
1:32 PM Aug 27th
 
hankgillette
Baseball's gain is meteorology's and criminology's loss.

What do you call the science of studying meteors?
12:08 PM Aug 27th
 
rpriske
Saying you are responsible for your property so therefore you are responsible for tickets by the driver of your property is ridiculous.

It seems SO ridiculous that I should just stop there, but apparently at least one person out there disagrees.

You cannot be held responsible for what happens when you are not present when you have no reason to believe that the person you left using your property is going to commit a crime. To say otherwise implies things like 'if a murder is committed in your home, by someone picking up a steaknife from your drawer, you are guilty because it was your steaknife'.

The only way you should be held responsbile for ANYTHING that happens while someone is driving your car is if that person doesn't have a valid driver's license when you gave him your keys or if you have reason to believe that he will commit a crime while driving your car (like, say he is intoxicated when you give him your keys).

Any resemblance to justice otherwise is purely coincidence.
8:27 AM Aug 27th
 
champ
Excellent piece, Bill, especially with the Buck O'Neil tie in at the end. There is good and bad in everyone, and you have to learn to seek out and capitalize the good in each person.

I have a poster of Buck hanging in my home where he is smiling and shrugging. If those who experienced injustice can overcome it with a shrug and a smile, then there is hope for those who commit injustice.

Which, again, is all of us.
7:23 AM Aug 27th
 
greggborgeson
On the stop-light/intersection control issue, we don't need more and better electronic traffic controls and rules. We need less. Fascinating article : http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.12/traffic.html . The bottom line: traffic controls give drivers, pedestrians and bikers a sense of entitlement which leads to more accidents.

I live in Massachusetts, known for having the most rule-breaking drivers and pedestrians in the U.S. It is a well-deserved reputation. There is indeed more chaos and unexpected behavior here: three or four cars may continue through after the light turns red and the joys of defiant jay-walking is taught to children at a young age. Driving on the sidewalk happens in a pinch, and double or triple-parking on major streets is a way of life.

So where does Massachusetts rank in auto fatalities? Dead last at #50, meaning it is actually the SAFEST PLACE TO DRIVE IN THE COUNTRY.

Life is full of delicious paradoxes. One appears to be that having more and better controls, more efficiently enforced and punished, leads to less safety, not more.
7:12 AM Aug 27th
 
schoolshrink
Couldn't agree more ... with Sean Kates. The last thing I want to see is more technology in our cars, inevitably leading to more computers on cars (my Cadillac has 37 of em), and more reason to replace sensors when they go out. On top of that, the cars on the road will be grandfathered in to be exempt of the new rules. As for speed traps, eventually sophisticated drivers will know to disguise themselves and skirt the laws, and nothing changes the fact that with enough money one could choose to fight the charges. In our society, we depend on cars to travel and there are few places that have infrastructure strong enough to avoid using a car. Even then, most people want to drive some of the time. The result is a regressive tax system, with fees that impact those who least can afford them.
1:17 AM Aug 27th
 
sdbunting
"Signaling cameras, that send you a ticket when you change lanes without signaling? Who wants to live in that America?"

I learned to drive in Jersey and currently live in Brooklyn, so: I do. It's like the Louis Braille Soapbox Derby around here half the time; you'd think there was a surcharge to *use* the signal, the way people are so stingy with them.

Your larger point is taken, but *my* main problem with red-light cameras, at least around here, is twofold: 1) eeeeeveryone knows exactly where they are, and pretty much only slows down/is more careful at those intersections. Everywhere else is open season; and 2) they don't catch people driving while using their cellphones. That crackdown needs to be much more far-ranging and severe, in my opinion, but then again, I drive a Smart, so I may be biased.
12:55 AM Aug 27th
 
DaveFleming
For Kev (and anyone else who is interested): a short lecture on TED about the subject of violence in history, offered up by Steven Pinker.

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/steven_pinker_on_the_myth_of_violence.html

This is not the "most murderous period in the history of the world." Far from it.
4:49 PM Aug 26th
 
DaveFleming
For Kev (and anyone else who is interested): a short lecture on TED about the subject of violence in history, offered up by Steven Pinker.

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/steven_pinker_on_the_myth_of_violence.html

This is not the "most murderous period in the history of the world." Far from it.
4:31 PM Aug 26th
 
DanaKing
The punishment piece interests me most. I've long advocated a prison system that combines elements of the commonly used traffic violation points system with a baseball-style idea of different levels of "accomplishment."

Each offense is worth so many points, depending on severity. Points accumulate, and your total can be reduced through periods of good behavior. Convictions that reach a certain threshold of points require home incarceration. Another threshold send you to a minimum security facility where education and rehabilitation are stressed. Another threshold and you go to a stricter place, maybe set up so you can see where you're headed if you keep this stuff up, but still primarily focused on rehabilitation. Another step sends you something like what we'd consider to be a prison now: we're willing to rehabilitate you, but this is definitely a place you don't want to come back to. The last level? Okay, you're proven you're not interested in working with society, so we're just locking you're ass up. Bye.

That might work, and it might not. I don't see how it could work worse than what we have now.
3:47 PM Aug 26th
 
Robinsong
As someone who works for the auto industry, I have a few push-backs.
1) Stoplights on the dash would not work as well since they take your eyes off the road. It also takes at least 20 years to completely turn over the vehicle fleet, so you could not eliminate stoplights for at least that long. You also need to worry about millions of pieces of equipment - what if the dash light malfunctioned?
2) Ticket by photo may be irritating, but like other technology changes can save both lives and money by relieving police officers of some of the responsibility of monitoring intersections and changing driver behavior. Moving to selt-belt laws generated some of the same fierce reaction, yet have dramatically increased seat belt usage and saved lives. People just changed their habits at little or no personal cost.
3) If McReynolds would not shake Justice Brandeis' hand when that was the tradition and expectation and would not acknowledge his presence, he would not have responded to Buck, let alone become his friend. Adolph Hitler had some admirable qualities (intelligence, eloquence, love of music); I am sure McReynolds had more. You are right to argue (as you have elsewhere) that those who dismiss the humanity of racists or fail to recognize changing mores can exhibit intolerance and unfounded moral superiority as ugly as those they condemn. Stories about McReynolds do help to remind us, though, that the past was not a golden age. I think that you can find certain actions repugnant, like stoning of an eloping couple, even if you need to understand the cultural context. The other WASP judges treated Brandeis with respect (even if they might not have invited him into their country clubs).
3:04 PM Aug 26th
 
Kev
I don't know, so I can't say for sure progress has been made in curtailing violent petty crime such as mugging, rape, hold-ups (I surely don't mean to imply the crime is petty as regards those who are victimized) but I suspect the millions of dollars illegally pocketed by white collar scams does more to hurt society, not to mention the bribery needed to kick-start a major haul.
And my screed of earlier today was written in an attempt to draw attention to the (it appears to me) diminishing regard for human life across he world. It seems to to be Hollywood-ish in its carnage, except it's real. And I confess to seizing the opportunity when noting your decrease in murders. I know we are talking of two forms of murder, each philosophically measured differently, and one to which you were not referring, and I am guilty of jumping the topic. But I believe firmly in the comment. Nothing prsonal, and no offense intended.
2:33 PM Aug 26th
 
slemieux99
Apologies for the redundancy on the Knox recommendation! Pete -- with due respect to our host (and taking his larger point about how McReynolds's racist sentiments were widely shared by white men in his generation, not least by the overrated president who appointed him) it's pretty hard to defend McReynolds even from a perspective of competence. He wrote very few major opinions for such a long-serving justice, and -- to take one egregious example -- it's pretty hard to defend his dissent in the Scottsboro Boys case, given that his fellow Four Horseman Sutherland wrote the majority opinion.

Truman's appointments were awful, though.
2:18 PM Aug 26th
 
slemieux99
Bill--have you read The Forgotten Memoir of John Knox? It's the posthumously published diary of a McReynolds clerk during the New Deal constitutional crisis. It's fascinating not only for its portrayal of McReynolds, but for its documenting of D.C. social mores, elite networking, etc. Strongly recommended.


2:09 PM Aug 26th
 
Kev
Bill,

You're cute when you're mad; a bit muddled at times but innovative at others.
I don't think you've done enough thinking about the punishment/prison thing, although as far as I can decipher, I think I basically agree with you.
But wake up and smell the coffee--we're making progress in curtailing murder? Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Tokyo, and Vietnam are progress? Indiscriminate murder of innocent people from the air doesn't count? Chalk it up to collateral damage? Just wars? (please not that cop-out). We murdered thousands of Iraqis for no reason (well, actually they were shooting at us because we invaded their country; what a strange reaction).
The chronicle of progress is certainly not ours alone: Pearl Harbor, Katyn, Gulags (Stalin's and ours) Armenia, Tiananmen(sp?), Somalia, Israeli overwhelming armed force response to any slight, Britain in India, France in Algeria, the U.S.-sanctioned ABC countries of South America. CIA-sponsored "regime changes".
The point is murder is murder. Self-defense must be (and is) necessary, but self-defense cannot be used to justify the murderous activities of Nazi Germany. The definition of self-defense has been so stretched from individual to national proportions as to become antonymous with itelf. Before sporting events we used to "take a moment to honor our brave men and women serving in 177 countries around the globe defending freedom and our way of life". Serving whom? To what purpose? Doing what? Defending freedom from such deadly threats to the U.S. as
Yemen? Iraq? Iran? Pakistan? Afghanistan? Well, they've dropped the "177 countries" (out of shame I suppose) but the "honor moment" persists. But if we weren't there they couldn't shoot us nor we at them.
This past Tuesday the Commandant of the U.S. Marines said our policy in establishing a withdrawal date for Afghanistan (late 2011) was a wrong policy, and would give "sustenance" to the enemy. Treason is defined in the Constitution as "giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war". We haven't had a declaration of war since 1941; countries go about it differntly now. But treason is still treason. What the Commandant said was treason. Let's see if Obama has the courage to sack the Commandant as Truman did MacArthur. On the heels of McChrystal, I doubt it.
Yes, I'm on my soapbox once more--but please, no more prattle about progress in the most murderous period in the history of the world.



1:18 PM Aug 26th
 
3for3
I guess I am in the minority. I am fully supportive of red light cameras, and speed trap cameras. Why have rules if there is no penalty for breaking them?
12:36 PM Aug 26th
 
SeanKates
As much as I dislike speed trap cameras, I don't understand the "How can you just give the owner a ticket, even if you can't prove the owner was the driver" complaints. You have responsibility for your property and for whoever is using it. Both tickets are transferrable to the actual driver, at least have been in my (unfortunately not so) limited experience. In addition, most red light cameras today actually take front and rear shots when triggered, so one can clearly see who the driver is, or at least the gender/age/race of the driver. Ultimately, you are responsible for who is driving your car and how they are driving it. It's part of owning a death machine. If you give it to someone who is irresponsible with it, and you are unwilling to turn them over to the authorities, then why shouldn't you bear the punishment?

There are WAY better reasons to hate speed trap cameras. And I suppose red light cameras.
9:00 AM Aug 26th
 
rpriske
Red Light cameras and Speed Trap cameras should be completely unenforceable. The fact that they aren't baffles me.

They are giving a ticket to the owner of a vehicle whether he or she was operating the vehicle or not.

How is that allowed?
8:31 AM Aug 26th
 
bbbilbo
I like the rainfall measure! You need to turn it over to an engineer, however, (please do!) because the instrument you descibe would be affected (effected? I never get them right) by the wind.
7:33 AM Aug 26th
 
greggborgeson
Great stuff. Couldn't agree more that our justice system is, overall, admirable but our punishment system defies all reason. We should consider short, high-quality rehabilitative sentences for any serious felony. But after a certain number of convictions, maybe three, swift capital punishment. The reasons are both economic and humane. If a criminal proves them-self incorrigible, caging them for life with other like-minded people is extraordinarily expensive and unnecessarily cruel.
7:05 AM Aug 26th
 
markrice
Amen...
I have read study after study that demonstrate that almost all crime is deceasing on a per capita basis. This is happening in a number of western countries..
It is rather ironic that despite this, people are as afraid as ever (maybe even more afraid)...
2:33 AM Aug 26th
 
markbern
Nice post, Bill. There's a terrific book about Justice McReynolds you might want to check out. It's called "The Forgotten Memoir of John Knox" (U. of Chicago Press) and it is a memoir kept by one of his law clerks back during the Depression. A fascinating insider portrait of how the Court worked back then and, as you might expect, a very unflattering portrait of Justice McReynolds.
9:51 PM Aug 25th
 
slideric
Your discussion of the problems of punishment might well be taken from Karl Menninger's "The Crime Of Punishment". He had the Kansas legislature talked into giving him money for a first offender rehabilitation facility. The legislature however funded the Kansas Turnpike...
9:05 PM Aug 25th
 
SeanKates
Apparently I'm the odd one out. I liked everything EXCEPT for the red-light/stop-light camera piece. I can't imagine why we would ever take something like stoplights, which serve an occasionally imperative function, and spread the risk into an infinite number of areas. When I come to a stoplight that is broken, I can almost always tell, except for rare malfunctions when it shows identical lights on all sides. When I am driving along and a light pops up on my car, I have no idea if the system is working, whether someone else's car (which can rarely be trusted on to be kept in proper shape, let alone to advanced electronic specs) is working or whether even MY car is really working correctly. Why have literally EVERY car be a potential disaster at EVERY intersection. I hate red-light cameras as a person who is not a careful driver. But I believe that merely the belief that there are red light cameras in the area does cause people to slow down through intersections. I am, however, against unmanned speed cameras, and believe they are the devil's work. Then again, I've had syblings hit by idiots in intersections before, but enver while speeding along the highway.
7:49 PM Aug 25th
 
PeteDecour
interesting stuff. I like the bloggy columns with one thing or another thrown-in. I think McReynolds was a pretty bad justice, though. Dont feel too bad: I think I remember that you are a Molly Maguires afficionado. I am a direct descendant of Mr. Newbold who hired James McParland and employed various brutal and awful means to fight the Mollies. I have his china case in my living room and his grand-niece (my grandmother) paid a good part of my way through college with railroad and mine money from her uncle. I know the Mollies were bad in many ways, but the rich employing crooks to beat the poor into submission and then in many cases, although not McParland's, to suborn lies from spies to lump the innocent in with the guilty, to keep their Main Line Mansions in fine fettle, seem to me to be worse.

I also liked your Red Light Camera piece. I am sending along through email a column I wrote recently about a proposal here. Here, they propose those mostly for road-building. I would rather pay a gas tax.
6:50 PM Aug 25th
 
PeteDecour
interesting stuff. I like the bloggy columns with one thing or another thrown-in. I think McReynolds was a pretty bad justice, though. Dont feel too bad: I think I remember that you are a Molly Maguires afficionado. I am a direct descendant of Mr. Newbold who hired James McParland and employed various brutal and awful means to fight the Mollies. I have his china case in my living room and his grand-niece (my grandmother) paid a good part of my way through college with railroad and mine money from her uncle. I know the Mollies were bad in many ways, but the rich employing crooks to beat the poor into submission and then in many cases, although not McParland's, to suborn lies from spies to lump the innocent in with the guilty, to keep their Main Line Mansions in fine fettle, seem to me to be worse.

I also liked your Red Light Camera piece. I am sending along through email a column I wrote recently about a proposal here. Here, they propose those mostly for road-building. I would rather pay a gas tax.
6:49 PM Aug 25th
 
RangeFactor
The electronic system needed to transmit 'Stop' signals to each vehicle's dashboard could also be used for traffic enforcement. The police could be notified when a vehicle that should have stopped fails to do so. No need for red-light cameras. This kind of 'Big Brotherism' might be objectionable if it leads to tickets and fines. The biggest concern is traffic safety; if some drivers' reflexes are so poor that they can't stop when clearly signaled, perhaps they should be encouraged to go for remedial driver training.
6:22 PM Aug 25th
 
Trailbzr
a) The $85 tix does not put points on your driving record, since the photo doesn't know who's driving. Identify yourself as the driver, and your insurance goes up more than the $85 if you lose.
b) Despite their reputation, ancient-living tribes (think National Geographic) have a much, much higher rate of violent death than modern societies, even including war.
c) There was a famous line during the civil rights struggle to the effect "[Southern bigots] are not bad people; they just don't want their daughters going to school with black boys." At the time, this was considered bridge-building.
5:23 PM Aug 25th
 
 
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