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September 21, 2010

Billy Nash 96, Joe Randa 71

 

September 21, 2010

 

            Nineteenth century star Billy Nash scored in double figures in six straight categories, overcoming a 39-28 deficit late in the first half, and finishing out a comparatively easy victory by ending the game with a 10-0 sweep in the “Team Success” category.   The 7th-seeded Nash will face #2 seed Jimmy Dykes in second round action on September 25.

 

 

Nash

Randa

Power

9

19

Speed

7

4

Hitting For Average

12

16

Plate Discipline

15

6

Career Length

13

9

Defense

17

9

Awards

14

7

Team Success

10

0

Total

97

70

 

 

            Among the 66 players in the tournament, Joe Randa ranks dead last in Team Success Percentage, at .338.   One of the bad habits that got the Kansas City Royals into the condition they are still in today was under-rating their home-grown talent.   After the Royals ran Kevin Seitzer off they traded for Gregg Jefferies, who was a very talented player and a kind of remarkable hitter, but not really a third baseman.   They had Jefferies for a year and Gary Gaetti for two or three years, and then Joe Randa came along.

            Randa didn’t come with a lot of hype.   He wasn’t a high draft pick, he wasn’t big or fast or showy, but he did hit .303 as a rookie in 1996, plus he was a good third baseman.   After one year the Royals—acting apparently on the belief that they were only a player or two away from winning their division—traded him to Pittsburgh as part of a package for two veterans, Jay Bell and Jeff King, and gave their third base job to Craig Paquette, and then to Dean Palmer.  

            Randa hit .302 in Pittsburgh—another team that was drifting annually a little further away from the pennant race—but was selected by the Arizona Diamondbacks in the expansion draft, and then traded to Detroit.   He had an off year in Detroit, the Tigers lost 97 games, and he got traded from Detroit to the Mets and then, days later, back to the Royals.   Randa in his career played for only two teams that had winning records, the 2003 Royals and the 2005 Padres—and they were each just a few games over .500.

            As a mature player, Randa in 1999  hit .314 with 197 hits including 36 doubles and 16 homers.   He followed that up with a similar season in 2000--.304 with 15 homers, 106 RBI.    His won-lost contributions for those two seasons were 22-13 and 18-17.  He didn’t walk, and he wasn’t flashy at third base, but he was a good line-drive hitter and a steady, reliable third baseman.

            Compared to Seitzer, also eliminated from the tournament in the first round, Randa was more similar than different.   He was shorter than Seitzer but stronger, and the ball jumped off his bat better.  Both were high-average hitters; Randa’s career average, .284, was easily the best of the four players eliminated from the tournament today.  He also led the four in on-base percentage and in slugging percentage.  Seitzer was a little better hitter; Randa was a better third baseman.   They were similar in size and speed, and they were similar in this way:  that they were much better ballplayers than you would think they would be if you just watched them work out.   I would bet that the scouts early in their careers underrated both of them by quite a bit.

            Randa had (I think) some sort of minor nerve damage in his face that caused his lips to curl perpetually into a somewhat unnatural grin.    People used to call him “the Joker”.   The expression wasn’t unpleasant, and it wasn’t out of keeping with his personality; he actually was an upbeat person who went through life with a smile on his face.  Which he needed, because although he was traded more times than a NASDAQ stock, he never did get to play in a pennant race.

Joe Randa—Wins and Losses Summary

YEAR

Team

Age

HR

RBI

AVG

SLG

OBA

OPS

BW

BL

FW

FL

Won

Lost

WPct

Value

1995

KC

25

1

5

.171

.243

.237

.480

0

3

0

0

0

3

.027

0

1996

KC

26

6

47

.303

.433

.351

.784

7

7

0

0

7

7

.498

7

1997

Pitt

27

7

60

.302

.451

.366

.817

11

7

0

0

11

7

.617

14

1998

Det

28

9

50

.254

.367

.323

.690

7

13

5

3

12

16

.431

10

1999

KC

29

16

84

.314

.473

.363

.836

15

10

7

2

22

13

.636

27

2000

KC

30

15

106

.304

.438

.343

.781

12

14

6

3

18

17

.512

18

2001

KC

31

13

83

.253

.386

.307

.693

8

17

7

2

15

19

.455

14

2002

KC

32

11

80

.282

.426

.341

.768

10

13

7

4

17

17

.497

17

2003

KC

33

16

72

.291

.452

.348

.800

11

11

4

3

14

14

.505

15

2004

KC

34

8

56

.287

.408

.343

.751

11

10

6

4

17

13

.562

19

2005

Cin

35

13

48

.289

.491

.356

.847

9

5

3

3

12

8

.596

14

2005

SD

35

4

20

.256

.395

.303

.698

4

5

4

4

9

9

.478

8

2006

Pitt

36

4

28

.267

.388

.316

.704

3

7

7

2

10

8

.542

11

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

123

739

.284

.426

.339

.765

108

122

55

29

164

151

.520

170

 

 

Clete Boyer and Ken

 

            Ken Keltner beat Clete Boyer 33-13 through the first three events including 17-1 in hitting for average, and held on for a 71-56 victory.

 

 

Keltner

Boyer

Power

12

8

Speed

4

4

Hitting For Average

17

1

Plate Discipline

8

9

Career Length

7

10

Defense

8

14

Awards

11

5

Team Success

4

5

Total

71

56

 

            Keltner in the second round will face the winner of tomorrow’s contest between Graig Nettles and Phil Nevin.

            In a certain sense, the Boyer/Keltner matchup was all about Boyer—in the sense that, if a basketball team comes out bombing threes and pressuring the ball, the question is whether they hit the threes and whether they can steal the ball.    Boyer’s .242 batting average was the lowest of any player in the tournament.   Although he had reasonably good power, his .670 OPS was still the fourth-lowest in the tournament.

            In spite of that, Boyer really was a good player, and he was a good player because he was a phenomenal defender.    We credit him with an .812 career winning percentage as a fielder, which is the highest of any player yet eliminated from the tournament, and the third-highest of any player in the tournament.   His career won-lost record, in the field, we have at 66-15, so if he hits .250 with 15 homers in a season, that’s enough.   In 1966 he hit .240 with 14 homers; he still comes out at 17-13.    In 1960 he hit .224 with 11 homers; he still comes out at 16-14.

            But the thing is, when we contrast Boyer with Keltner in the field, Boyer doesn’t gain that much because Keltner was also a very good fielder.   Boyer wins it, 14-8, but when we look at batting average, Keltner wins 17-1 because Boyer hits .242 and Keltner hits .276, which was better than the league average and better than the league average for a third baseman in that era.

            Boyer was the same age as Brooks Robinson, was similar in build to Brooks, and also comes from the same part of the country. . .a couple of hundred miles away.   While Boyer was at his peak (1960 to 1967), there were people who thought that he was a better defensive player than Brooks.   Our method suggests that he may well have been.   His defensive winning percentage is higher than Brooks’s, although, in truth, this is mostly because Brooks was a better hitter.   Because Brooks was a better hitter he stayed in the game years and years after Boyer was retired, thus we’re comparing lemons and oranges in making a direct comparison of the defensive winning percentages.   We are, in a sense, asking who was a better fielder:  the 25-year-old Clete Boyer, or the 38-year-old Brooks Robinson.

            I had noticed before that Clete Boyer had very, very high defensive winning percentages, and I had been concerned, before doing this study, that they might be too high because they were unduly influenced by the fact that Boyer played for very good teams, which could slant the data.   But in doing this study, I realized that this actually is not the case.   Boyer’s Team Success Percentage was good, .591, but not all that good.   Brooks Robinson’s was much better (.658).   Boyer did play for some great teams (1960 to 1964), but he also played for some crummy teams.   It’s not like he only scores as a good fielder when he is playing for a good team.  His fielding numbers are just very impressive, from the beginning of his career to the end.   But you still have to hit, and he drove in as many as 70 runs only once in this career.  

 

Clete Boyer—Wins and Losses Summary

YEAR

Team

Age

HR

RBI

AVG

SLG

OBA

OPS

BW

BL

FW

FL

Won

Lost

WPct

Value

1955

KC

18

0

6

.241

.253

.268

.521

0

3

0

1

0

4

.039

0

1956

KC

19

1

4

.217

.279

.284

.563

1

5

1

1

2

5

.280

0

1957

KC

20

0

0

.000

.000

.000

.000

0

0

0

0

0

0

.000

0

1959

NYA

22

0

3

.175

.193

.215

.408

0

5

1

0

1

6

.169

0

1960

NYA

23

14

46

.242

.405

.285

.690

7

10

5

0

12

11

.534

13

1961

NYA

24

11

55

.224

.347

.308

.656

8

15

8

0

16

14

.529

17

1962

NYA

25

18

68

.272

.413

.331

.745

13

11

7

0

20

12

.634

25

1963

NYA

26

12

54

.251

.363

.295

.657

10

14

7

1

17

14

.548

19

1964

NYA

27

8

52

.218

.304

.269

.573

6

17

6

1

11

18

.385

8

1965

NYA

28

18

58

.251

.424

.304

.728

11

12

6

1

17

13

.563

19

1966

NYA

29

14

57

.240

.384

.303

.687

12

10

5

3

17

13

.558

18

1967

Atl

30

26

96

.245

.423

.292

.715

11

14

5

3

17

17

.501

17

1968

Atl

31

4

17

.227

.311

.275

.586

5

7

3

2

7

9

.448

6

1969

Atl

32

14

57

.250

.371

.328

.699

9

13

6

1

16

14

.530

16

1970

Atl

33

16

62

.246

.381

.305

.686

7

14

5

1

12

15

.434

10

1971

Atl

34

6

19

.245

.439

.299

.738

2

2

1

0

3

2

.587

4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

162

654

.242

.372

.299

.671

103

153

66

15

169

169

.501

170

 

 

Gaetti 71, Melton 49

 

            Gary Gaetti, outpointing Bill Melton 27-5 on defense and career length, moved relatively easily into the second round.   Gaetti, the #1 seed in the St. Louis regional, will face 9th-seeded Edgardo Alfonzo on September 25. 

 

 

Gaetti

Melton

Power

9

11

Speed

5

3

Hitting For Average

9

11

Plate Discipline

3

14

Career Length

13

1

Defense

14

4

Awards

12

3

Team Success

6

2

Total

71

49

 

            As the chart below shows, there is really nothing wrong with Bill Melton, except that his career is too short for him to have value comparable to the front-rank players in this tournament.   He was an outstanding power hitter, and he was OK in the field.   In 1971, at the age of 25, he was near the level of being an MVP candidate.   Worse players have won the MVP Award.  He just had back trouble, and took a huge step backward at an age when he should still have been making progress.

 

Bill Melton—Wins and Losses Summary

YEAR

Team

Age

HR

RBI

AVG

SLG

OBA

OPS

BW

BL

FW

FL

Won

Lost

WPct

Value

1968

CWS

22

2

16

.266

.394

.322

.717

3

2

1

0

4

2

.633

5

1969

CWS

23

23

87

.255

.433

.326

.759

12

13

3

5

15

17

.461

13

1970

CWS

24

33

96

.263

.488

.340

.828

14

9

3

4

16

13

.555

18

1971

CWS

25

33

86

.269

.492

.352

.843

19

4

6

2

25

6

.814

35

1972

CWS

26

7

30

.245

.370

.319

.689

5

4

2

1

7

5

.583

8

1973

CWS

27

20

87

.277

.439

.363

.802

15

9

6

2

21

11

.654

26

1974

CWS

28

21

63

.242

.404

.326

.730

11

11

3

4

14

15

.493

14

1975

CWS

29

15

70

.240

.359

.346

.705

11

12

3

4

14

16

.475

13

1976

Cal

30

6

42

.208

.328

.300

.628

7

8

1

3

8

11

.406

6

1977

Cle

31

0

14

.241

.323

.331

.654

2

5

1

1

2

6

.282

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

160

591

.253

.419

.337

.756

99

75

28

27

127

102

.555

139

 

 

 

Tim Wallach 118, Bob Aspromonte 62

 

            Tim Wallach, who as I recall was in the major leagues from sometime in the late 1930s until two or three weeks ago, dominated an overmatched expansion player, and advanced in the tournament with a 118-62 shellacking of Houston’s Bob Aspromonte.    Wallach, the #2 seed in his region, will face Adrian Beltre in Los Angeles on September 25.

 

 

Wallach

Aspromonte

Power

24

1

Speed

5

8

Hitting For Average

15

18

Plate Discipline

12

15

Career Length

17

4

Defense

21

6

Awards

16

6

Team Success

8

4

Total

118

62

 

            From 1955 until 1970 the Dodgers were constantly looking for a third baseman.   I notice here that the Dodgers in that era brought up but traded away prematurely three pretty good third basemen—Aspromonte, Ken McMullen and Don Hoak.   Hoak played for the Dodgers in ’54-’55, got traded to Chicago, and became a quality third baseman for the Reds and Pirates.   Aspromonte, a bonus baby, played one game for the Dodgers in 1956, played for them again in 1960-’61, and went to Houston in the expansion draft; he became a decent player for the Astros.   McMullen played for the Dodgers from ’62 to ’64, got traded to Washington, and became a good major league player in Washington. 

            Aspromonte had a brother, Ken Aspromonte; at least as I remember my old baseball cards, they looked enough alike to be twins.   They came from Brooklyn and they looked like characters from Jersey Shore, with thick, wavy black hair.

            I really thought, before running the numbers, that Bob Aspromonte was a much better player than he seems to have been.    His career OPS, .644, was the lowest in the tournament. Among the 66 players in the tournament, Aspromonte also ranks dead last in Isolated Power, at .084.  He played his best years in an absolutely terrible power park, yes, but. . .our system automatically adjusts for those things.  His Isolated Power in his career was .087 at home, .081 on the road.    The real problem is that not only did he not hit a lot of homers—8, 12 a year—but that he didn’t hit any doubles.   In his career he hit 66 doubles and 30 homers at home, 69 and 30 on the road.  He hit 17 doubles per 600 plate appearances—the fewest of any player in the tournament.   (Mike Lowell hit the most, 37 per 600 PA).   Defensively, although his defensive reputation was very good, he seems to have been a little bit above average in Fielding Percentage, but well below average in range.   He was a .500 player at the top of his game. 

 

Bob Aspromonte—Wins and Losses Summary

YEAR

Team

Age

HR

RBI

AVG

SLG

OBA

OPS

BW

BL

FW

FL

Won

Lost

WPct

Value

1956

Bkn

18

0

0

.000

.000

.000

.000

0

0

0

0

0

0

.000

0

1960

LA

22

1

6

.182

.255

.196

.451

0

2

0

0

0

3

.084

0

1961

LA

23

0

2

.241

.293

.290

.583

1

2

0

0

1

2

.282

0

1962

Hou

24

11

59

.266

.376

.332

.708

11

11

4

4

15

15

.493

15

1963

Hou

25

8

49

.214

.306

.276

.581

7

15

4

4

10

18

.353

6

1964

Hou

26

12

69

.280

.392

.329

.721

13

11

5

3

18

14

.560

20

1965

Hou

27

5

52

.263

.322

.310

.632

11

14

4

4

15

18

.467

14

1966

Hou

28

8

52

.252

.334

.297

.631

8

17

4

4

12

21

.368

8

1967

Hou

29

6

58

.294

.401

.354

.755

14

7

2

5

16

11

.586

18

1968

Hou

30

1

46

.225

.264

.285

.549

5

14

3

3

8

17

.327

4

1969

Atl

31

3

24

.253

.348

.304

.652

3

5

1

2

4

7

.373

3

1970

Atl

32

0

7

.213

.236

.282

.518

1

5

1

1

2

6

.211

0

1971

Mets

33

5

33

.225

.301

.285

.586

4

12

3

2

7

14

.335

3

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

60

457

.252

.336

.308

.644

77

115

31

32

108

146

.425

89

 

 

            Tomorrow’s contests will wrap up the first round of play with Phil Nevin taking on Graig Nettles in Cleveland (16 vs. 1), Don Hoak playing Chipper Jones in St. Louis (15 vs. 2), Jeremiah Denny dealing with Ron Cey in Los Angeles (14 vs. 3), and 8th-seeded Doug DeCinces playing 9th-seeded Jeff Cirillo in Baltimore.   DeCinces will be trying to avoid a clean sweep for the 9 seeds; they’re 3-0 so far. 

            On Thursday, we’ll kick off second-round action with Carney Lansford against Ken McMullen, Ken Boyer against Scott Rolen, Bob Elliott against Heine Zimmerman, and Matt Williams against Jimmy Collins.    So far, we have eliminated 30 players from the tournament.   Once we hit the second round it will take us four days to eliminate 16 more players, then in the third round we’ll switch to two games a day so that we don’t blow off three Hall of Famers a day.   This is how the 30 players eliminated so far rank in terms of career OPS:

 

Order

First

Last

Seed

G

AB

HR

RBI

Avg

SPct

OBA

OPS

1

Troy

Glaus

11

1409

4998

304

879

.255

.497

.359

.856

2

Aramis

Ramirez

11

1410

5263

264

946

.286

.503

.344

.847

3

Freddy

Lindstrom

10

1438

5611

103

779

.311

.449

.351

.800

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4

Vinny

Castilla

5

1854

6822

320

1105

.276

.476

.321

.797

5

Dean

Palmer

13

1357

4902

275

849

.251

.472

.324

.796

6

Ray

Boone

13

1373

4589

151

737

.275

.429

.361

.789

7

Melvin

Mora

13

1401

4979

164

693

.278

.436

.352

.788

8

Howard

Johnson

12

1531

4940

228

760

.249

.446

.340

.786

9

Kevin

Seitzer

10

1439

5278

74

613

.295

.404

.375

.780

10

Joe

Randa

10

1522

5428

123

739

.284

.426

.339

.765

11

Pinky

Whitney

8

1539

5765

93

927

.295

.415

.343

.758

12

Larry

Parrish

5

1891

6792

256

992

.263

.439

.318

.757

13

Bill

Melton

16

1144

3971

160

591

.253

.419

.337

.756

14

Tony

Batista

15

1309

4568

221

718

.251

.453

.299

.752

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

15

Brook

Jacoby

14

1311

4520

120

545

.270

.405

.334

.739

16

Ed

Sprague

16

1203

4095

152

558

.247

.419

.318

.737

17

Doug

Rader

11

1465

5186

155

722

.251

.403

.322

.725

18

Hubie

Brooks

8

1645

5974

149

824

.269

.403

.315

.717

19

David

Bell

13

1403

4826

123

589

.257

.396

.320

.716

20

Charlie

Hayes

12

1547

5262

144

740

.262

.398

.316

.714

21

Frank

Malzone

11

1441

5428

133

728

.274

.399

.315

.714

22

Ray

Knight

14

1495

4829

84

595

.271

.390

.321

.711

23

Steve

Buechele

16

1334

4266

137

547

.245

.394

.316

.710

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

24

Bill

Bradley

10

1460

5426

34

552

.271

.371

.317

.688

25

Jim

Davenport

15

1501

4427

77

456

.258

.367

.318

.684

26

Luis

Salazar

17

1302

4101

94

455

.261

.381

.293

.673

27

Clete

Boyer

8

1725

5780

162

654

.242

.372

.299

.670

28

Tom

Brookens

17

1336

3865

71

431

.246

.367

.296

.663

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

29

Ken

Reitz

14

1344

4777

68

548

.260

.359

.290

.649

30

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COMMENTS (4 Comments, most recent shown first)

MarisFan61
Yes, Bill -- sorry I wasn't clearer. Indeed I meant one of those NCAA-type things that looks sort of like 4 sideways converging family trees.
Glad you got it anyway! :-)
12:48 AM Sep 22nd
 
bjames
1) All of what?
2) What is a "bracket-type" chart. Oh, you mean tournament brackets? I can't. We can't do graphics. We're working on it.
11:30 PM Sep 21st
 
MarisFan61
Suggestion to Bill: How about putting all this in a "bracket"-type chart?

Or maybe do you already have it like that somewhere........
10:50 PM Sep 21st
 
MarisFan61
Hehehe......I'm assuming that the title "Clete Boyer and Ken" (meaning KELTNER), was an intentional clever little entendre (or whatever we should call it), not a slip.

And yeah, I think Tim Wallach recently did become the first guy to play in 8 different decades! (I would guess breaking the record held by Jesse Orosco.)
12:55 PM Sep 21st
 
 
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