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December 10, 2010

            Today we’re going to look at Shooting Guards/Small Forwards.  

            OK, let me explain a little bit more what I’m trying to do.   Much of my career has been built upon taking seriously questions that are too small and too arcane for any normal, non-obsessive person to take seriously.   There’s an assumption that the public doesn’t have that much patience.   Other people, before me, had drawn up lists of the 100 best baseball players of all time—but none of them really took the question seriously.   They didn’t make any effort to think through the question of what makes a player great, what makes a player valuable.   They simply assumed that they knew the answers to those questions.    They didn’t take the time or make the effort to work through the candidates.   They simply picked the players they liked.  They posed the question, leapt over the discussion, and delivered their answers.  

            I picked up the same questions, but crawled through the issues at a snail’s pace, taking seriously every little sub-question that could be found within the discussion.   I expanded the discussion from the top 100 players to the top 100 first basemen, the top 100 second basemen, etc.    I’m not saying this was better than what other people had done; it was me.  

            People write about Babe Ruth, and they write about Babe Ruth, and they write about Babe Ruth, and for variety they write about Lou Gehrig, and if they’re feeling really ambitious they’ll take a whack at Earle Combs.   I was always interested in the other guys, the Bing Millers and Buddy Myerses and Willie Kamms and Jimmie Wilsons who were on the field with Ruth and Gehrig, but not at the same level.   I’m not saying this was right; I’m saying it was me.

            Well, for many years I have wanted to be able to do similar things with college basketball.   People write about Kemba Walker, and they write about Kemba Walker, and they write about Kemba Walker.   I’m always trying to organize the universe.   OK, he’s the best point guard in the country, and maybe Kyrie Irving is the second base, and maybe Jacob Pullen is the third-best, but. . .what is the list?    Who is number 143, and why is he better than #144? Who ranks where, and how do we know?  What are the real characteristics of winning teams in college basketball?   What is the value of one rebound, as opposed to one turnover?

            I am trying to work on these questions, but the problem is, there is absolutely no way to approach these questions that I can get meaningful answers tomorrow.   We can’t do that, for one thing, because there’s no data base—or anyway, no data base that I know of.    There is nowhere you can go that I know of where you can get the stats you need for all of the players in college basketball.

            So that’s job one; start building the data base.   That’s what I’m working on; it’s early and I don’t have much, but you have to start somewhere.   If the public isn’t patient enough to work through it with me, that’s fine; I’ll write to those who are.   I’ll explain more tomorrow, or the day after or the day after.

            Today’s task is to rank the swing men, the big guard/small forward type players.    The difference between those two positions is pretty subtle, and I think almost everybody who does one job regularly slides over to the other one sometimes.   Among the players I have, these are the best "25s", the best swing men:

 

Rank

Last

First

Team

PPG

1

JORDAN,

Marcus

U Central Florida

16.4

Scoring 16+ Points a game in less than 25 minutes a game, with tremendous shooting percentages (53% from the floor, 48% on threes, 85% from the line.)    College athletic sites generally mention a player's parents names.   His doesn't.   It's a fellow who used to play for the Bulls, famous now because he doesn't have a Bacon neck. . ..

 

 

 

 

 

2

ANDERSON

Kevin  

Richmond

16.7

Better rebounder than Jordan and probably a better passer, also has good shooting percentages although not as good.   Small for the position, but he was honorable mention All-American last year, and was on the pre-season watch list for the Wooden award.

 

 

 

 

 

3

BROWN,

Adam

Houston

13.9

6-4, 175 pounds, but gets 5+ rebounds a game.

 

 

 

 

 

4

CASSITY

 Kyle  

St. Louis

11.7

Small-town kid from near St. Louis, shooting 67% from the floor.

 

 

 

 

 

5

PENA,

Dago

Marshall

11.0

A good-sized player (6-6, 200) whose mother was a big basketball star in the Dominican Republic.

 

 

 

 

 

6

PETTIS

 Earl  

LaSalle

9.1

6-5 Junior who played two years at Rutgers, transferred and sat out a year.

 

 

 

 

 

7

PFLIEGER,

Cory

Rice

6.9

A fifth-year or sixth-year senior who has been playing college basketball since 2005, missed all of last year with a knee injury.   Seems to have improved his percentage game.   Shooting percentages are better than they have been, and his assists to turnover ratio is really good early after a 69-51 ratio as a Junior.

 

 

 

 

 

8

Johnson

Alex

CSU Bakersfield

13.1

5-10, 170-pound redshirt senior, seems too small to play this position.   A 3-point shooter who likes to slash in and steal rebounds.

 

 

 

 

 

9

BARTON,

Antonio

Memphis

7.4

Talented freshman; brother also plays for Memphis.

 

 

 

 

 

10

Bamforth

Scott

Weber State

12.0

Doesn't start for Weber State but throws up ridiculous number of threes, and hits them.

 

 

 

 

 

11

CLINKSCALES,

Rodney

SMU

8.6

Chicago area player who spent a year at a Juco in Dodge City.   Doesn't start but shooting percentages are really good.

 

 

 

 

 

12

Carter

 Keyon 

Old Dominion

7.8

 

 

 

 

 

13

JOHNSON

 Sean  

Duquesne

10.1

 

 

 

 

 

14

JETT

 Jordair  

St. Louis

7.5

Short, powerfully built freshman.  St. Louis coach is the great Rick Majerus, who may have the Billikens close to being a tournament team.

 

 

 

 

 

15

Smith

Joel 

Northeastern

11.8

 

 

 

 

 

16

HAYNES,

Justin

SMU

8.2

 

 

 

 

 

17

MOORE

 Ramone  

Temple

12.3

 

 

 

 

 

18

RILEY

 Freddie  

U Mass

11.2

Slender 6-5 Sophomore; has to shoot better.

 

 

 

 

 

19

BOUEDO

 Arthur  

Wyoming

4.3

 

 

 

 

 

20

FERNANDEZ

 Juan  

Temple

11.4

 

 

 

 

 

21

Milson

 Tanner 

UNC Wilmington

6.1

 

 

 

 

 

22

Wells

 Julius 

James Madison

8.9

 

 

 

 

 

23

Fields

 James 

Georgia State

6.7

 

 

 

 

 

24

Bigby

Alwayne 

Northeastern

5.0

 

 

 

 

 

25

ROBERTS

 Ronald  

Saint Joseph's

4.2

 
 

COMMENTS (1 Comment)

metsfan17
My team, St. John's, was going after Ron Roberts. I was wondering if he was a player. I'll look forward to your analysis. I love college bball. If you need any help with gathering stats or scouting players, feel free to write me at bacdsl@aol.com
12:05 PM Dec 11th
 
 
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