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The Brooks Robinson Tournament--Day Three of the Second Round

September 25, 2010

 

September 25, 2010

 

            There are now 24 players left in the tournament; after today there will be 20.   These are the players remaining, and the schedule:

 

Baltimore Regional

Brooks Robinson (1) against

Doug DeCinces (8)

Tomorrow

Jimmie Dykes (2) against

Billy Nash (7)

Today

Toby Harrah (3) has advanced

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Jimmy Collins (5) has advanced

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Cleveland Regional

Graig Nettles (1) against

Ken Keltner (9)

Tomorrow

Ron Santo (2) against

Willie Jones (7)

Today

Sal Bando (3) has advanced

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Bob Elliott (4) has advanced

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St. Louis Regional

Gary Gaetti (1) against

Edgardo Alfonzo (9)

Today

Chipper Jones (2) against

Harry Steinfeldt (7)

Tomorrow

Todd Zeile (3) has advanced

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Scott Rolen (5) has advanced

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Los Angeles Regional

Buddy Bell (1) against

Carney Lansford (4) 

Round 3

Tim Wallach (2) against

Adrian Beltre (7)

Today

Ron Cey (3) against

Willie Kamm (6)

Tomorrow

 

 

 

Ron Santo 92, Willie Jones 76

 

            Ron Santo used a 20-9 margin in “Hitting for Average” to build a solid lead over 1950s Philadelphia third baseman Willie Jones, gliding to a relatively easy win:

 

Santo

Jones

Power

17

13

Speed

4

8

Hitting For Average

20

9

Plate Discipline

13

12

Career Length

14

10

Defense

16

14

Awards

3

3

Team Success

5

7

Total

92

76

 

            Jones and Santo were similar players.   It is the theory of the tournament that all of these guys are pretty similar, but Jones and Santo were more than usually similar, distinguished mostly by the fact that Santo was a .280 hitter and Jones was a .260 hitter.   They were both good third basemen with good on-base percentages.

            After I became a baseball fan in 1960, there were three generations of players in my mind.    There were the active players, whose records were still changing and who appeared in the annual guides and in the box scores and who had new baseball cards every spring.   There were the “old” players like Jimmie Dykes and Bob Elliott and Mel Harder and Phil Rizzuto.  These guys no longer played, but they were still around; they were coaches or managers or broadcasters.   Stories were still told about them, and they got interviewed on the radio before the games, and my brother-in-law had old baseball cards of them, so I understood that they had played not all that long ago.

            There were, finally, the “ancients”. . .what I now think of as the ancients.   The ancients were long gone before I became a baseball fan.    When I became a baseball fan Honus Wagner had been retired for only 43 years, Ty Cobb for 32 years, but it might as well have been a thousand.   I never knew anyone who had seen these men play, and I don’t know if I would have believed it if someone claimed to have (although now that I think about it my uncle had seen Pete Alexander play, as a part of the House of David team.)   Hack Wilson was an ancient, and Chuck Klein and even DiMaggio, although DiMaggio was still around, but he was no longer a part of the game.  He had passed into myth.

            Now, Mickey Mantle has been gone as long as Honus Wagner had been gone in 1960, but he still seems present to me, in some sense indistinguishable from the age of Jason Heyward.   I have been a baseball fan for about 1/40th of the years since the time of Christ or Julius Caesar; not quite 1/40th, but I will be there in months.  The lines that were drawn in my childhood are still there; I have trouble remembering, from day to day, that to young people now Mickey Mantle is as distant as Honus Wagner was to me, Willie Mays more distant than was Ty Cobb or Tris Speaker, Sandy Koufax more distant by a decade than was Walter Johnson.

            A hundred years ago there was a player named Charlie Hickman, who appeared in some of the old encyclopedias as “Piano Legs” Hickman.   Apparently he had a large mid-section and short, thin legs.  Of course, he was never really called Piano Legs Hickman; it was just a nickname that was used once or twice, and somebody saw it and thought it was cute, and it wound up in the Encyclopedias.

            Later there was a kind of an effort to take the name out of the encyclopedias, to which I was opposed, thinking “what’s your problem with a colorful name?”  Now, with Jones, I see it the other way.   Willie Jones was never called “Puddin’ Head” Jones, more than about twice; it was just something that made it into a guide somewhere, and made the leap then into modern encyclopedias.   It seems to me a distortion, to call a solid, workmanlike player by a silly nickname by which he was never actually known.

            It’s a difference of relatability.   Piano Legs Hickman was an ancient; I accept a cartoon version of him because the cartoon is as deep and layered as any other image of him that I have.   Willie Jones is real to me; he was almost gone before me, but I still relate to him as a living, breathing presence on the field.

 

Willie Jones—Won and Lost Contributions

YEAR

Team

Age

HR

RBI

AVG

SLG

OBA

OPS

BW

BL

FW

FL

Won

Lost

WPct

Value

1947

Phil

21

0

10

.226

.258

.304

.562

1

2

1

1

1

3

.267

0

1948

Phil

22

2

9

.333

.467

.365

.832

2

1

0

1

2

2

.564

2

1949

Phil

23

19

77

.244

.421

.328

.749

11

13

6

3

17

16

.514

17

1950

Phil

24

25

88

.267

.456

.337

.793

15

11

6

3

21

14

.608

25

1951

Phil

25

22

81

.285

.470

.358

.828

17

7

5

3

22

10

.680

28

1952

Phil

26

18

72

.250

.383

.323

.706

11

13

7

3

18

16

.537

19

1953

Phil

27

19

70

.225

.385

.342

.727

10

12

6

2

16

14

.544

18

1954

Phil

28

12

56

.271

.402

.342

.744

12

11

6

2

18

13

.578

20

1955

Phil

29

16

81

.258

.401

.352

.753

12

11

4

3

16

14

.538

18

1956

Phil

30

17

78

.277

.429

.383

.812

16

6

4

3

20

10

.670

25

1957

Phil

31

9

47

.218

.332

.310

.641

7

13

4

3

11

16

.404

8

1958

Phil

32

14

60

.271

.420

.351

.771

10

7

2

3

12

10

.546

13

1959

Phil

33

7

24

.269

.469

.343

.811

4

3

1

1

5

4

.583

6

1959

Cle

33

0

1

.222

.278

.263

.541

0

1

0

0

0

1

.316

0

1959

Cin

33

7

31

.249

.399

.330

.729

4

6

1

2

5

8

.390

4

1960

Cin

34

3

27

.268

.376

.388

.764

4

2

1

1

5

3

.633

6

1961

Cin

35

0

0

.000

.000

.222

.222

0

0

0

0

0

1

.000

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

190

812

.258

.410

.353

.763

137

120

54

33

190

153

.554

209

 

 

Gary Gaetti 62, Edgardo Alfonzo 61

 

            Overcoming a 30-point deficit in batting average with better defense and a longer career, number one seed Gary Gaetti squeaked by Edgardo Alfonzo into the third round of the Brooks Robinson Invitational Tournament. 

 

Gaetti

Alfonzo

Power

14

8

Speed

4

5

Hitting For Average

5

17

Plate Discipline

5

12

Career Length

12

6

Defense

16

6

Awards

3

1

Team Success

3

6

Total

62

61

 

            Alfonzo, a .300 hitter in 1997, 1999, 2000 and 2002, was a very good player for six years, hitting for high averages with power and as many as 95 walks in a season.    At his best, Alfonzo was not only a better player than Gaetti, he was much better.   Alfonzo had four seasons better than Gaetti’s best season, and Alfonzo would have killed Gaetti on a “peak value” comparison.

            But Gaetti’s career was unusually long, given his level of performance, and Alfonzo’s was unusually short.  It’s just hard to rate a player who has a 1500-game career ahead of a player who has a 2500-game career.

 

 

Edgardo Alfonzo—Won and Lost Contributions

YEAR

Team

Age

HR

RBI

AVG

SLG

OBA

OPS

BW

BL

FW

FL

Won

Lost

WPct

Value

1995

Mets

21

4

41

.278

.382

.301

.683

6

8

1

3

7

11

.393

5

1996

Mets

22

4

40

.261

.345

.304

.649

6

10

2

3

8

13

.377

5

1997

Mets

23

10

72

.315

.432

.391

.823

15

6

5

1

20

7

.741

27

1998

Mets

24

17

78

.278

.427

.355

.782

14

9

4

3

18

12

.599

21

1999

Mets

25

27

108

.304

.502

.385

.886

19

7

3

3

22

10

.696

29

2000

Mets

26

25

94

.324

.542

.425

.967

20

1

2

3

23

4

.843

32

2001

Mets

27

17

49

.243

.403

.322

.725

10

10

2

2

12

13

.494

12

2002

Mets

28

16

56

.308

.459

.391

.851

17

2

4

1

21

4

.855

30

2003

SF

29

13

81

.259

.391

.334

.726

10

12

4

2

14

15

.491

14

2004

SF

30

11

77

.289

.407

.350

.757

11

11

3

3

14

14

.507

14

2005

SF

31

2

43

.277

.345

.327

.672

7

9

2

3

8

12

.402

6

2006

Cal

32

0

1

.100

.120

.135

.255

-1

3

0

0

0

3

000

0

2006

Tor

32

0

4

.162

.189

.279

.468

0

2

0

0

0

2

.071

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

146

744

.284

.425

.357

.782

135

92

33

27

168

119

.585

192

 

 

 

Billy Nash 68, Jimmie Dykes 67 (OT)

 

            In a tournament that desperately needed an upset, 7th-seeded Billy Nash, a 19th century player that we might struggle to describe as a star, has upset and ousted from the tournament 2nd-seeded Jimmie Dykes.

 

Nash

Dykes

Power

9

15

Speed

5

4

Hitting For Average

12

12

Plate Discipline

11

8

Career Length

8

11

Defense

16

9

Awards

2

3

Team Success

5

5

Total

68

67

 

            Jimmie Dykes was taken under his wing as a very young man by Connie Mack.   A good high school baseball player, Mack earned an invitation to a tryout at Shibe Park, at which—at least as he recalled it in his biography, You Can’t Steal First Base—he lost his temper and stalked off the field.   Mack invited Dykes to his house, and offered him a contract.

Mack, having sold off his stars in 1914 and being left with very terrible teams, was looking for young men that he could build up into a championship team.   Dykes, 21 years old when he came to the A’s after a year in the minors, was one of the first that he found—Dykes, Cy Perkins and Eddie Rommel, but Perkins and Rommel had had their best years before the A’s finally won in 1929.     There was a kind of relationship between player and manager that has not existed since Mack and McGraw left the game, nor is it even really clear that anyone other than Mack and McGraw ever did this, although the relationship between Weaver and Cal Ripken was almost the same.   Connie Mack personally trained Jimmie Dykes—not through surrogates, not through coaches, not through minor league managers (although Dykes did play one year in the minors.)   There were no organized “farm systems” in 1918, but the practice of “farming out” young players for training in the minors was well established even before 1918, and it was called farming out even then.    Teams would find a young player they liked and would sell him to a minor league team under an arrangement in which they would have the first option to re-purchase him two or three years later. . . an “option” arrangement.   We still use the term, although the modern arrangement is totally different.   But in 1918, as there was no farm system, the major league manager had no control of and really no contact with a player that he had farmed out.   The minor league team would decide whether he was a third baseman or a second baseman or a shortstop, according to their own needs.   The minor league manager would “train” the player, or—more often—would allow the player to sink or swim.

            Mack and McGraw would sometimes say “No, I don’t want to do that; I’m going to train this young man myself.  I like this young man; he doesn’t know how to play baseball at this level, but I can teach him, and I don’t want to trust somebody else to do that.”   McGraw did this with Lindstrom and Ross Youngs and Frisch and Fred Snodgrass and Mel Ott and many others; Mack did the same with Dykes and Jimmie Foxx and others.   It’s not clear to me that anyone else ever did this at all, in part because it was difficult for any other manager to take a long-range view.   Managers had about the same turnover rate then that they do now.   If a manager had a bad year or certainly if he had two bad years, he got fired.   He wasn’t going to worry about training some 19-year-old who might be able to help him in four years.    Only Mack and McGraw had the job security that enabled them to do this.

            Dykes could be seen as an American League Frankie Frisch.   Frisch joined John McGraw in 1919, out of Fordham, as an infielder-without-portfolio; he was an infielder, but it was unclear whether he was a second baseman or a third baseman or a shortstop.    Dykes joined Connie Mack in 1918 in the same kind of role.   Dykes was in the majors from a very early age, and, as he had been on the team for years before they added Al Simmons, Mickey Cochrane, Jimmie Foxx, Lefty Grove and the other stars, he was the natural leader of that team; he was the guy who was there first, who knew Connie Mack best, had been around long enough to show the others the ropes.   He played with Mack for 15 years, finally was sold off when the Depression left Mack short of funds, played another seven years with the White Sox, and returned to Philadelphia as a coach, and Connie Mack’s right-hand man.    Although Mack continued to “manage” the A’s, in theory, until 1950, when he was 88 years old, he managed the team the last five years the way Joe Paterno “coaches” Penn State.   It was really Dykes who was doing 90% of the work and making most of the decisions, and, when Mack finally retired, Dykes officially became the manager.

            Returning to a theme from the Willie Jones comment, Dykes was “present” in the game in 1960, even though he had come to the majors just one year after Honus Wagner had left.   Dykes managed Cleveland in 1961.   If the history of baseball is a tapestry, Dykes was one of the very long threads that held it all together.   Also, returning to another theme from the Willie Jones comment, how did “Jimmie” Dykes get to be “Jimmy” Dykes?    I mean. . .the man wrote a book.   On the cover of the book it says “Jimmie” Dykes.   Isn’t that a pretty definitive reference as to how his name should be spelled?   How did we throw that away, and decide that he was “Jimmy”?

            Dykes was just an average hitter for his era; his batting average, slugging percentage and on-base percentage were all near the league norms for the time that he played.  He hit 108 homers in his career—75 in his home parks, 33 on the road.  He did gradually increase his on-base percentages so that, in the era when the A’s were a great team (1929-1931), his on-base percentages were over .400, and he was a very good player at that time—not a great player, a very good one, at his best.   Over the course of his long career, he wasn’t a lot better than an average player. 

            His Team Success Percentage, .707, was very, very high for a player with such a long career.   As the A’s had very low expectations at the time that Dykes joined them, they could meet or exceed expectations, as a team, with modest accomplishments.   They very consistently did make modest strides forward, until they had gone from the worst team in baseball to the best.   Shortly after the A’s crested Dykes was sold to Chicago, and the White Sox also made steady strides forward while Dykes was a regular there.  In his 22 years in the majors he played for 17 teams that met or exceeded their expectations for the season.

 

Jimmie Dykes—Won and Lost Contributions

YEAR

Team

Age

HR

RBI

AVG

SLG

OBA

OPS

BW

BL

FW

FL

Won

Lost

WPct

Value

1918

Phil

21

0

13

.188

.237

.267

.504

2

7

2

2

4

9

.300

1

1919

Phil

22

0

1

.184

.204

.286

.490

0

2

0

1

1

3

.159

0

1920

Phil

23

8

35

.256

.361

.334

.695

10

15

4

7

14

21

.391

10

1921

Phil

24

16

77

.274

.447

.348

.794

12

14

7

3

19

17

.524

20

1922

Phil

25

12

68

.275

.421

.359

.780

11

11

4

5

15

16

.487

14

1923

Phil

26

4

43

.252

.353

.318

.671

7

12

4

4

10

16

.393

8

1924

Phil

27

3

50

.312

.427

.372

.799

10

8

4

3

14

11

.565

15

1925

Phil

28

5

55

.323

.471

.393

.864

12

6

5

2

18

9

.667

22

1926

Phil

29

1

44

.287

.392

.370

.762

8

10

8

0

16

11

.599

18

1927

Phil

30

3

60

.324

.453

.394

.847

12

5

4

3

16

9

.651

20

1928

Phil

31

5

30

.277

.384

.361

.746

5

6

3

1

8

7

.552

9

1929

Phil

32

13

79

.327

.539

.412

.950

12

4

5

2

18

6

.749

24

1930

Phil

33

6

73

.301

.425

.414

.840

12

7

4

3

16

10

.613

19

1931

Phil

34

3

46

.273

.389

.371

.759

8

8

5

1

13

8

.606

15

1932

Phil

35

7

90

.265

.373

.358

.731

9

15

6

3

15

18

.457

13

1933

CWS

36

1

68

.260

.327

.354

.681

9

15

6

3

15

18

.451

13

1934

CWS

37

7

82

.268

.368

.363

.731

9

11

2

4

11

15

.415

9

1935

CWS

38

4

61

.288

.387

.381

.769

8

9

4

2

12

11

.512

12

1936

CWS

39

7

60

.267

.366

.362

.728

7

12

4

3

11

15

.418

9

1937

CWS

40

1

23

.306

.400

.372

.772

2

2

1

0

3

2

.557

3

1938

CWS

41

2

13

.303

.461

.374

.834

2

1

0

1

2

3

.461

2

1939

CWS

42

0

0

.000

.000

.000

.000

0

0

0

0

0

0

.000

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

108

1071

.280

.399

.365

.764

143

141

69

43

212

184

.535

226

 

 

 

Tim Wallach 82, Adrian Beltre 77

 

 

Wallach

Beltre

Power

13

15

Speed

4

7

Hitting For Average

9

19

Plate Discipline

13

9

Career Length

14

9

Defense

19

10

Awards

4

2

Team Success

6

6

Total

82

77

 

 

            Adrian Beltre’s 2004 season, when he hit 48 homers for Los Angeles, is the second-best season by any player in this tournament, behind only Harry Steinfeldt in 1906, which is a kind of a fluke evaluation because the Cubs’ 116-36 record stresses the Win Shares/Loss Shares system:

 

Player

Year

Team

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Won

Lost

Value

Harry Steinfeldt

1906

Cubs

3

83

.327

.825

31

2

46

Adrian Beltre

2004

LA

48

121

.334

1.017

29

1

43

Ron Santo

1967

Cubs

31

98

.300

.906

29

3

42

Ron Santo

1964

Cubs

30

114

.313

.962

29

4

41

Scott Rolen

2004

StL

34

124

.314

1.007

27

+1

41

 

 

            Brooks Robinson’s MVP season in 1964 actually ranks as the 19th best season in the group, while Ken Boyer’s MVP campaign the same year rings in at 65th

            Two questions: 

            1)  Could Beltre, if he continues to play well, pass Wallach on this list before he retires?, and

            2)  Does Beltre have any chance to have a Hall of Fame career?

            Answers:

            1)  Certainly,

            2)  Very little.

            Beltre is a .550 player in his career.   A .550 player is not ordinarily a Hall of Famer; a .600 player is a Hall of Famer.   A .600 player is not a .600 player every year; he’s a .700-.800 player in his good years and a .400-.500 player on the way up and the way down.

            Beltre’s been a .700 player this year.   If he continues to be a .700 player over the next three or four years, then he could emerge as a Hall of Fame candidate.   There have been some players who had their prime seasons, the seasons that made them a Hall of Famer, at ages 31-34, rather than 25-29, but it is not at all common.  Beltre has a “Win Share Value” of 219.  He would need to push that, to be a Hall of Famer, to 350.  That’s a long, long distance away.

 

Adrian Beltre—Won and Lost Contributions

YEAR

Team

Age

HR

RBI

AVG

SLG

OBA

OPS

BW

BL

FW

FL

Won

Lost

WPct

Value

1998

LA

19

7

22

.215

.369

.278

.647

3

6

1

1

4

7

.369

3

1999

LA

20

15

67

.275

.428

.352

.780

13

10

2

3

15

14

.515

15

2000

LA

21

20

85

.290

.475

.360

.835

14

8

3

2

17

10

.629

20

2001

LA

22

13

60

.265

.411

.310

.721

10

11

3

2

13

13

.497

13

2002

LA

23

21

75

.257

.426

.303

.729

12

14

3

3

15

17

.470

14

2003

LA

24

23

80

.240

.424

.290

.714

10

15

5

2

15

17

.463

14

2004

LA

25

48

121

.334

.629

.388

1.017

23

0

5

1

29

1

.977

43

2005

Sea

26

19

87

.255

.413

.303

.716

11

15

3

4

14

19

.429

12

2006

Sea

27

25

90

.268

.465

.328

.793

14

12

3

3

18

15

.534

19

2007

Sea

28

26

99

.276

.482

.319

.801

13

13

4

3

17

16

.507

17

2008

Sea

29

25

77

.266

.457

.327

.784

13

10

3

3

16

14

.532

17

2009

Sea

30

8

44

.265

.379

.304

.683

7

13

4

1

11

14

.437

9

2010

Bos

31

28

99

.324

.563

.370

.933

15

7

4

1

19

8

.708

25

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

278

1006

.275

.462

.329

.791

157

134

43

30

201

164

.550

219

 

 

 

Explanation of the Points

 

            Ok, we’re nearing the end of this puppy, so let me explain how the “points” in the games are actually determined.   The points, as I explained earlier, are actually derived from the “Category Rankings” method which is the recessive comparison system.    Also, as I explained earlier, I ranked the players 1 through 66 in eight categories, which are the eight categories that are used to compare each and every set of players.

            The first thing I do, to get a “Score” for the “Basketball Game”, is to determine whether the player who does better in the category rankings is the player who should win—that is, the player who, in my best judgment, was actually a better player.   In this case, Tim Wallach does better than Adrian Beltre in both Category Rankings and Wins and Losses, so. . .we’re good to go.   We can use the Category Rankings to determine the score, as we can more than 80% of the time.

            These are the actual category rankings for these two players in the eight categories:

 

Player

Power

Speed

Batting Average

Plate Discipline

Career Length

Defense

Awards

Team Success

Total

Wallach

41

21

17

26

59

59

57

42

322

Beltre

52

41

37

20

42

34

29

44

299

 

            In other words, Tim Wallach ranks 26th among the 66 players in the group in “power”, so he is ahead of 40 other players, so he gets 41 points in this category.   Adrian Beltre has more power, so he gets more points.    Adding up the points for all eight categories, we have 322 points for Wallach, 299 for Beltre. 

            The next question we ask is how many points should be scored in the contest, the “game”.   We determine the number of points that will be scored in a contest by a formula, which is 105, plus 80 times a random number.   In this case the random number was .6802; 80 times that is 54, plus 105 is 159; 159 points will be scored in the game.  The maximum points for the two players in a game under this formula is 185; there may have been an early game in which more points than that were scored, but I changed the formula a few days into the tournament.

            The next thing we have to determine is how many of those 159 points will be scored by the winning player, who in this case is Tim Wallach.   In the chart above we had 322 points for Wallach, 299 for Beltre.   We add 200 to each of those, making 522 for Wallach, 499 for Beltre.   The ratio of points scored in the game will be 522 to 499, plus one extra for Wallach (to avoid having ties).   522 / (522 + 499) * 159 + 1 = 82, so Wallach will score 82 points.   That leaves 77 points for Beltre, so the score of the game will be 82-77.

            You can probably see intuitively why I added the 200 points to each total before determining the score, but I’ll explain it anyway.   Without the 200 points, the scores would be too lop-sided to resemble real basketball games.    Without the 200 points, Tim Wallach would have defeated Bob Aspromonte in the first round, 144 to 37.    Adding in the “ballast” made it 118 to 63—still a lop-sided game, obviously, but there are basketball games like that.   144 to 37 is not a real basketball score in any tournament you are likely to take an interest in.

            OK, Wallach is going to defeat Beltre, 82 to 77.  Now we have to allocate those points to the eight categories that we are using to explain and justify the results.   First, we assign a “weight” to each of the eight categories, which are as follows:

 

Power

Speed

Batting Average

Plate Discipline

Career Length

Defense

Awards

Team Success

25

10

25

20

20

25

5

10

 

            There are 25 points for “Power”, and Adrian Beltre wins the Power Category 52-41 (above), so Beltre wins those 25 points by a 52-41 ratio.   A 52-41 ratio in 25 points is 13.98 for Beltre, 11.02 for Wallach.    This produces the following values for these eight categories;

Power

Speed

Batting Average

Plate Discipline

Career Length

Defense

Awards

Team Success

11.02

3.39

7.87

11.30

11.68

15.86

3.31

4.88

13.98

6.61

17.13

8.70

8.32

9.14

1.69

5.12

 

            Except that, when you add that up, it doesn’t add up to 82-77 for Wallach.   It actually adds up to 71-69 for Beltre. . .70.676 for Beltre, 69.324 for Wallach.

            To make it 82-77, Wallach, we multiply all of Wallach’s scores by 82 divided by 69.324, and all of Beltre’s by 77 divided by 70.676.    That makes the following:

 

Power

Speed

Batting Average

Plate Discipline

Career Length

Defense

Awards

Team Success

Total

13.04

4.01

9.31

13.37

13.82

18.76

3.92

5.78

82.00

15.23

7.20

18.66

9.47

9.06

9.96

1.84

5.57

77.00

 

            Then we convert those into integers:

Power

Speed

Batting Average

Plate Discipline

Career Length

Defense

Awards

Team Success

Total

13

4

9

13

14

19

4

6

82

15

7

19

9

9

10

2

6

77

 

            And we have a point-by-point comparison of the player’s skills, that adds up to look like a basketball game.

            It can happen that there is a rounding error that changes the score of the game, but I’m not going to worry about that unless it causes a tie or causes the wrong player to win.  I’ll go with the score at the end of the process, not the score that was intended.  Of course, there are some distortions in the process, and it can happen—and occasionally does—that a player who hits .262 winds up beating a player who hits .270 in the “Batting Average” category, 14 to 12.   When I spot something like that, I intervene in the process to fix it, but sometimes I probably don’t spot it, and I’m not really going to worry about it.   The system is what it is; you can accept it or you can dismiss the whole thing as silly; that’s up to you.  

 
 

COMMENTS (4 Comments, most recent shown first)

jdw
Glad to see Dykes get bounced. Thought career length would get him past Nash before getting bounced by Harrah.
1:41 AM Sep 26th
 
kcale
I liked the summary of Beltre's chances for the HOF. Stargell is a player that comes to mind who peaked in his early 30's.
You also threw out another guideline - .600 Win %. Is that something you would want to consider when doing the evaluation of a player? One problem is Win % will be affected by the age the player retires. Don't know by how much but I'm guessing it would be significant.
10:51 PM Sep 25th
 
MarisFan61
Bad day for me too because Nash is another guy I never heard of before this tournament. :ha:
Others:
Jerry Denny (and it doesn't count if you heard of John Denny) :-)
Bill Bradley -- only maybe 'sort of' heard of him, but not even sure

(Let's see if anyone else confesses.......)
6:26 PM Sep 25th
 
cderosa
Bad day for me, 1-3. I'm calling Nash for a quality-of-competition foul!
11:28 AM Sep 25th
 
 
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