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December 6, 2010

            This bit of research actually began with a comment in the "Hey, Bill" section posted by a reader just before Felix Hernandez won the Cy Young Award, despite his lackluster record of being credited with wins and blamed for losses.   The post suggested that the "switch" in Cy Young voting patterns was not really a "switch", but the culmination of a long-term trend that could be seen as early as 1987, when Nolan Ryan drew some support in the NL Cy Young voting (12 points, tied for 5th) despite a won-lost record of 8-16.    Ryan had lost two-thirds of "his" decisions, but had led the league in strikeouts (270) and ERA (2.76).  As far back as then, the reader suggested, voters were beginning to pay attention to something other than wins.

            When I saw that post—which unfortunately I cannot find—I thought, "Well, I should be able to measure that."  I should be able to measure, in any vote, how much weight is given to each category of performance, thus document how those things change over time.

            I came up with a method to do this, somewhat imperfectly, and I’ll explain the method in a minute.   But first, a brief history of the Cy Young vote, just to make sure that everybody is on the same page.

 

I.  A Brief History

 

            The Cy Young Award began in 1956, with the first award going to Don Newcombe, who had gone 27-7 for the Brooklyn Dodgers.   From 1956 to 1966 only one award was given each year, to the best pitcher in baseball, not the best pitcher in the league.   It was done that way because Ford Frick, who was then the Commissioner, felt strongly that it should be that way.   Frick thought that if you gave a Cy Young Award in each league, then sportswriters would start thinking that there was an award for pitchers and an award for position players, the MVP Award, and they would no longer vote for pitchers for the MVP Award.   Which, basically, turned out to be true.

            There have been 99 Cy Young Awards given—one a year 1956 to 1966 (11), and two a year 1967 to 2010 (88).

            In the first years of the vote, there was a very simple voting system in which only one sportswriter covering each franchise voted, and he voted for only one pitcher.    The "modern" system of Cy Young voting came into existence in two stages.   In 1967—shortly after the retirement of Ford Frick—the BBWAA began giving two Cy Young Awards each year, one for each league.   With that change they doubled the number of voters to two per team, but continued to use the very simple one man, one vote ballot.

            In the American League Cy Young vote in 1969, this system (predictably) malfunctioned; it wasn’t predictable that it would happen in the American League in 1969, but it was foreseeable that it would happen in some league before too long.  With only 24 voters voting, it was very easy to get a tie in the voting, with no way to resolve the tie.   In 1969 Denny McLain (24-9, 2.80 ERA) got 10 votes, and Mike Cuellar (23-11, 2.38 ERA) got 10.   The other four votes went to other pitchers.   Each pitcher got a half of a Cy Young Award; as I understand it Denny McLain got the right half and Mike Cuellar got the left half, but that’s not important right now.

            The MVP vote had always (back to 1911) used a "ranked" ballot, in which each writer listed several choices for the award.  This works much better.   It works better simply because it collects much more information, and you have a better chance of getting the right answer when you have more information.  After 1969 the BBWAA switched to a "ranked" ballot.   (Of course, as most of you probably know, beginning in 2010 the vote switched from a three-man to a four-man ballot.   That’s better still, but not hugely significant, at least yet.)

            There is a third relevant change here, but it’s hard to explain.   From 1963 to 1968, most of the Cy Young votes are obvious.   Sandy Koufax won the award unanimously in 1963, 1965 and 1966.  In 1968 Denny McLain was unanimous in the American League, and Bob Gibson was unanimous in the National.    In 1967 the votes weren’t unanimous, quite, but the winner in each league won 18 of the 20 votes, and in 1964 the winner won 17 out of 20.

            We still occasionally have votes like that, of course, but it is much more the exception than the rule—and has been since 1969.  But as a consequence of these three factors—the unified, two-league award, the simple ballot, and the domination of a few pitchers—we really have very little information about the thinking of Cy Young voters before 1970.   For each vote now we can do a pretty decent job of diagnosing what was considered important, but before 1970 we just don’t have much to work with.

 

 

II.  Analytical Method

 

I set up a system in which, if the player who was first in the league in a category also won the Cy Young Award, the player who was second in the category was second in the voting, the player who was third was third, and on down the line, then that would be considered to be a 100% agreement between the category and the Cy Young voting.

            The last time this actually happened was in the National League voting in 1988.   These were the National League leaders in Wins in 1988:

 

1.  Orel Hershiser

23

     Danny Jackson

23

3.  David Cone

20

 

            And this was the Cy Young vote:

 

1.  Orel Hershiser

120 points

2.  Danny Jackson

  54 points

3.  David Cone

  42 points

 

            These were the only three players mentioned in the voting; all 24 voters listed those three players, and only those three.  There is no clear disagreement between the "wins" category and the Cy Young voting, so we measure it as 100% agreement.

            Zero percent agreement, on the other hand, would be. . .well, saves in 2009.   In 2009 no pitcher who earned even one save was mentioned in the Cy Young voting in either league.   In other words, saves—based on the 2009 voting—appear to have NO impact on the vote.  That’s zero percent.

            This is the actual system, the details.   There are four stages in each measurement:

 

            1)  Define the field of competitors,

            2)  Calculate the potential score if the votes and the category line up perfectly,

            3)  "Score" the match for the category, and

            4)  Divide the score by the potential.

 

            The field of competitors I defined as "all pitchers eligible for the award who have a Season Score of at least 100."    There typically are about 40 to 50 pitchers in a league who will have a Season Score of 100 or higher.   This was defined by a guess, but as it turned out, there was only one pitcher in history—Lee Smith in the strike-shortened 1994 season—who has been mentioned in the Cy Young voting with a Season Score of less than 100.    He got one point in the voting.

            To calculate the potential score, line up the vote-getters like this:

Hernandez,Felix

Mariners

167

Price,David

Rays

111

Sabathia,CC

Yankees

102

Lester,Jon

Red Sox

33

Weaver,Jered

Angels

24

Buchholz,Clay

Red Sox

20

Lee,Cliff

Rangers

6

Soriano,Rafael

Rays

5

Cahill,Trevor

Athletics

4

Soria,Joakim

Royals

2

Verlander,Justin

Tigers

1

Liriano,Francisco

Twins

1

 

            This is the data for the American League vote in 2010.   Multiply the top vote-getters’ total by 25, the #2 man by 24, #3 by 23, etc.   Like this:

Hernandez,Felix

Mariners

167

25

4175

Price,David

Rays

111

24

2664

Sabathia,CC

Yankees

102

23

2346

Lester,Jon

Red Sox

33

22

726

Weaver,Jered

Angels

24

21

504

Buchholz,Clay

Red Sox

20

20

400

Lee,Cliff

Rangers

6

19

114

Soriano,Rafael

Rays

5

18

90

Cahill,Trevor

Athletics

4

17

68

Soria,Joakim

Royals

2

16

32

Verlander,Justin

Tigers

1

15

15

Liriano,Francisco

Twins

1

14

14

 

 

 

 

 

Total

 

 

 

11148

 

            If the other category lines up perfectly with the Cy Young vote—which hasn’t happened since 1988--the total will be 11,148.

            Next, we line up the "category" totals for the category being tested.   Let’s say Innings Pitched.   We line up the Innings Pitched for the American League pitchers in 2010 who are considered Cy Young candidates.   It makes this:

Name

Team

IP

Hernandez,Felix

Mariners

249.7

Sabathia,CC

Yankees

237.7

Weaver,Jered

Angels

224.3

Verlander,Justin

Tigers

224.3

Santana,Ervin

Angels

222.7

Pavano,Carl

Twins

221.0

Lackey,John

Red Sox

215.0

Danks,John

White Sox

213.0

Lee,Cliff

Rangers

212.3

Carmona,Fausto

Indians

210.3

Buehrle,Mark

White Sox

210.3

Romero,Ricky

Blue Jays

210.0

Guthrie,Jeremy

Orioles

209.3

Price,David

Rays

208.7

Lester,Jon

Red Sox

208.0

Garza,Matt

Rays

204.7

Wilson,C.J.

Rangers

204.0

Lewis,Colby

Rangers

201.0

Gonzalez,Gio

Athletics

200.7

Cahill,Trevor

Athletics

196.7

Scherzer,Max

Tigers

195.7

Marcum,Shaun

Blue Jays

195.3

Braden,Dallas

Athletics

192.7

Liriano,Francisco

Twins

191.7

Hughes,Phil

Yankees

176.3

Niemann,Jeff

Rays

174.3

Buchholz,Clay

Red Sox

173.7

Cecil,Brett

Blue Jays

172.7

Baker,Scott

Twins

170.3

Davis,Wade

Rays

168.0

Garcia,Freddy

White Sox

157.0

Slowey,Kevin

Twins

155.7

Pineiro,Joel

Angels

152.3

Chen,Bruce

Royals

140.3

Duensing,Brian

Twins

130.7

Pettitte,Andy

Yankees

129.0

Hunter,Tommy

Rangers

128.0

Capps,Matt

Twins

73.0

Feliz,Neftali

Rangers

69.3

Papelbon,Jonathan

Red Sox

67.0

Soria,Joakim

Royals

65.7

Perez,Chris

Indians

63.0

Valverde,Jose

Tigers

63.0

Soriano,Rafael

Rays

62.3

Rivera,Mariano

Yankees

60.0

Gregg,Kevin

Blue Jays

59.0

Rauch,Jon

Twins

57.7

Bailey,Andrew

Athletics

49.0

Fuentes,Brian

Twins

48.0

 

            We give 25 points to the top man, 24 to the #2 man, etc.   Which makes this:

Name

Team

IP

Pts

Hernandez,Felix

Mariners

249.7

25

Sabathia,CC

Yankees

237.7

24

Weaver,Jered

Angels

224.3

23

Verlander,Justin

Tigers

224.3

22

Santana,Ervin

Angels

222.7

21

Pavano,Carl

Twins

221.0

20

Lackey,John

Red Sox

215.0

19

Danks,John

White Sox

213.0

18

Lee,Cliff

Rangers

212.3

17

Carmona,Fausto

Indians

210.3

16

Buehrle,Mark

White Sox

210.3

15

Romero,Ricky

Blue Jays

210.0

14

Guthrie,Jeremy

Orioles

209.3

13

Price,David

Rays

208.7

12

Lester,Jon

Red Sox

208.0

11

Garza,Matt

Rays

204.7

10

Wilson,C.J.

Rangers

204.0

9

Lewis,Colby

Rangers

201.0

8

Gonzalez,Gio

Athletics

200.7

7

Cahill,Trevor

Athletics

196.7

6

Scherzer,Max

Tigers

195.7

5

Marcum,Shaun

Blue Jays

195.3

4

Braden,Dallas

Athletics

192.7

3

Liriano,Francisco

Twins

191.7

2

Hughes,Phil

Yankees

176.3

1

 

            And we multiply that by the pitcher’s points in the Cy Young vote:

 

Name

Team

IP

Pts

Cy Y P

Cont

Hernandez,Felix

Mariners

249.7

25

167

4175

Sabathia,CC

Yankees

237.7

24

102

2448

Weaver,Jered

Angels

224.3

23

24

552

Verlander,Justin

Tigers

224.3

22

1

22

Santana,Ervin

Angels

222.7

21

 

0

Pavano,Carl

Twins

221.0

20

 

0

Lackey,John

Red Sox

215.0

19

 

0

Danks,John

White Sox

213.0

18

 

0

Lee,Cliff

Rangers

212.3

17

6

102

Carmona,Fausto

Indians

210.3

16

 

0

Buehrle,Mark

White Sox

210.3

15

 

0

Romero,Ricky

Blue Jays

210.0

14

 

0

Guthrie,Jeremy

Orioles

209.3

13

 

0

Price,David

Rays

208.7

12

111

1332

Lester,Jon

Red Sox

208.0

11

33

363

Garza,Matt

Rays

204.7

10

 

0

Wilson,C.J.

Rangers

204.0

9

 

0

Lewis,Colby

Rangers

201.0

8

 

0

Gonzalez,Gio

Athletics

200.7

7

 

0

Cahill,Trevor

Athletics

196.7

6

4

24

Scherzer,Max

Tigers

195.7

5

 

0

Marcum,Shaun

Blue Jays

195.3

4

 

0

Braden,Dallas

Athletics

192.7

3

 

0

Liriano,Francisco

Twins

191.7

2

1

2

Hughes,Phil

Yankees

176.3

1

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total

 

 

 

 

9020

 

            This total (9,020) we divide by the league potential (11,148), making .809.   In the American League in 2010 there was a 80.9% agreement between Innings Pitched and Cy Young votes.

            That’s a pretty high figure, but look at the data.   The pitcher who led the league in Innings Pitched also won the award.    The pitcher who was second in innings (Sabathia) was third in the Cy Young voting.   They line up reasonably well.

 

            I have to explain just two little wrinkles in the system. . .well below my norm (17.2 wrinkles and/or exceptions requiring explanation per report.)    The two little wrinkles are:

            1)  When two players tie in a category, the player who did better in the Cy Young voting is always listed first.   In other words, since Jered Weaver and Justin Verlander each pitched 224 1/3 innings, we list Weaver first because he got more points in the Cy Young voting, and

            2)  If a player has ZERO in the category (zero saves, or zero complete games or zero shutouts), he can’t be listed among the top 25 in the league, even if there are not 24 players in the league who did have at least one of those.   In some leagues there aren’t 25 pitchers who threw a shutout, or 25 pitchers who recorded a save, but we don’t give "points" to a pitcher based on zeroes.

 

III. The Study

 

            I tested the importance of 23 statistics in each of the 99 Cy Young contests.   Some of these are "raw" categories like wins, ERA and strikeouts, and some of them are "manufactured" categories created by putting data together.  Eight of them were raw statistical categories:

 

            1)  Wins

            2)  Saves

            3)  ERA

            4)  Innings Pitched

            5)  Complete Games

            6)  Shutouts

            7)  Strikeouts

            8)  Walks

 

            Four were simple, first-level statistical extrapolations:

 

            1)  Strikeouts Per Nine Innings

            2)  Walks Per Nine Innings

            3)  Strikeout to Walk Ratio

            4)  Home Runs Allowed Per Nine Innings

           

 

            And the other eleven were more complicated statistical extrapolations:

 

            1)  WL1           Won-Lost record (stated as 5 * Wins – 3 * Losses)

            2)  WL2           Won-Lost record (stated as 5* Wins – 2 * Losses)

            3)  WLS1         (1) on this list plus Saves

            4)  WLS2         (1) on this list plus 2 * Saves

            5)  WLS3         (2) on this list plus Saves

            6)  RSA6         The number of Earned Runs Saved by the pitcher as compared to a pitcher

                          &nb​sp;                     with a 6.00 ERA.

            7)  RSA7         Earned Runs Saved by the pitcher as compared with a 7.00 ERA.

            8)  RSALg       Earned Runs Saved by the pitcher as compared to the league ERA

            9)  Leveraged RSAL

                                 ​;   The Same as (8) on this list, but multiplied by (IP + 2* Saves) / IP

            10)  SOBB       (2 * SO) – (3 * BB)

            11)  Season Score        A standard method that I use to rank pitcher seasons

 

           

IV.  The Results of the Study

 

            We can first dismiss from the study some of these eleven statistical extrapolations in the last group; they were things that I thought might work, but didn’t.   I had initially thought that WL1 (Wins times 5 minus losses times 3) was about the "right" weight of losses versus wins, but it clearly isn’t.   The most instructive example is the 1962 Cy Young vote, in which the three leading contenders were Don Drysdale (25-9), Jack Sanford (24-7), and Bob Purkey (23-5).   If you line those three up by WL1, they go Purkey (100), Sanford (99), Drysdale (98).    If you line them up by WL2 (wins times 5 minus losses times 2) they go Drysdale (107), Sanford (106), Purkey (105).   In fact, the voting went Drysdale-Sanford-Purkey, so WL2 has a value for that vote of .986, whereas WL1 is at .935.    There’s not a big difference between them, but WL2 is a better predictor than WL1, so we can just get rid of WL1.

            We’ll get rid of WL1, WLS1, WLS2, and RSA7, as those turned out to be just less-accurate versions of other "compiled" stats.

 

            Warning you now that I am about to give you a misleading statistic.

            Among the basic statistics, Wins have been, as you might guess, by far the best predictor of Cy Young voting performance—and remain so today.   Over the entire history of the award, wins are 88.9% predictive of Cy Young voting performance.

            Focusing just on the last ten awards, wins are 88.5% predictive.

            There have been recent awards, yes, in which Wins did not seem to carry much weight.   In the 2010 Cy Young vote, Wins come in at just .716, and in the National League in 2006, the award won by Brandon Webb with Trevor Hoffman second in the voting, they come in at just .665.   But overall, wins are not meaningfully less predictive of Cy Young voting performance in recent history than they have been overall.

            The reason this is true is that the major "disruption" to the pattern of the biggest winners winning the Cy Young Awards is actually not the recent trend to consider other starting pitchers.   The biggest disruption to that pattern was the era in which relievers won Cy Young Awards.

            From the beginning of the Award in 1956 to 1973—an era of 26 awards--no reliever won the Cy Young Award, and, in general, relievers were rarely mentioned in Cy Young voting.  In this era, there was a 96.2% agreement between Wins and Cy Young Votes.

            From 1974 to 1992—an era of 38 awards--eight relievers won the Cy Young Award:

            1974 NL  Mike Marshall

            1977 AL  Sparky Lyle

            1979 NL  Bruce Sutter

            1981 AL  Rollie Fingers

            1984 AL  Willie Hernandez

            1987 NL  Steve Bedrosian

            1989 NL  Mark Davis

            1992 AL  Dennis Eckersley

 

            And many, many other relievers were prominently mentioned in Cy Young voting.   In general, some reliever would be a serious Cy Young candidate as often as not.   These relievers did not have high Win totals, and, in this era, there was only an 83.6% agreement between Wins and Cy Young voting performance.

            Since 1993—an era of 36 awards--only one reliever has won a Cy Young award (Eric Gagne in 2003), and relievers are mentioned in Cy Young voting less and less often.   Since 1993, Wins are 89.4% predictive of Cy Young voting performance.

            I began by saying that Wins, over the entire history of the award, are 88.9% predictive of Cy Young votes, whereas in the last five years (10 awards) they are 88.5% predictive.   But this is misleading, because the predictive significance of wins, for starting pitchers, was much higher than that for much of the award’s history.

 

            This is the data for each of the eight "basic" categories studied:

 

Era

Wins

Saves

ERA

IP

CG

ShO

SO

BB

1956-1973

.962

.084

.542

.855

.851

.807

.737

.479

1974-1993

.836

.189

.600

.723

.715

.682

.660

.442

1994-2010

.894

.078

.655

.806

.747

.675

.788

.413

Last 10 awards

.885

.066

.622

.833

.758

.644

.777

.372

 

Era

Wins

Saves

ERA

IP

CG

ShO

SO

BB

 

All 99 Awards

.889

.122

.605

.786

.761

.711

.726

.440

                                 

 

 

            Saves, even in the era when some relievers won the Cy Young Award, were never remotely equal to wins in importance in the Cy Young voting.   In the American League in 1984, not only did a reliever (Willie Hernandez) win the award, but another reliever (Dan Quisenberry) finished second in the voting.   In that race, Saves measure as 63.5% predictive of Cy Young votes.    In the National League in 1974, when Mike Marshall won and three other relievers were mentioned in the voting, they measure at .555, and in three other awards won by relievers (1981 AL, 1989 NL and 2003 NL) they measure at greater than 50%.  Wins, on the other hand, measure as more than 50% predictive of voting in 95 of the 99 elections.

            There is a barrier to "raw ERA" measuring as highly predictive, which is that there are normally a half-dozen "non serious" candidates who have extremely low ERAs, but no chance to win the Cy Young Award.   In 2009, for example, the three best ERAs in the National League were by Hong-Chih Kuo (1.20), Billy Wagner (1.43) and Mike Adams (1.76), none of whom was even mentioned in the Cy Young voting (although I don’t quite understand why Wagner wasn’t.)   In the American League the best ERAs were by Andrew Bailey (1.47) and Chris Perez (1.71), neither of whom was mentioned.   There have always been pitchers like this; in 1956 Marv Grissom had an ERA of 1.56.   These pitchers cause the measured relationship between ERA and Cy Young votes to be fairly low, although (as you can see) ERA has become more significant over time.

            Just explaining. .."Walks", above, are measured in the same way as if walking people was a positive thing.    As you can see, Cy Young winners throughout history have not infrequently had high or very high walk totals, simply because more walks come with more innings pitched, and innings pitched are the second-best predictor of Cy Young performance, among these eight basic stats.    In 1958 Bob Turley won the Cy Young award despite leading the major leagues with 128 walks.  In 1959 Early Wynn did the same thing, leading the majors with 119 walks, but winning the Cy Young Award, while Sam Jones led the National League in walks, but was second in the Cy Young voting, causing the measured link between walks and Cy Young votes for 1959 to be .942.   This still happens, but it happens less, and I’ll discuss this more in a moment. 

 

            Among the four "simple calculation" categories, the most predictive has been the strikeout to walk ratio, but there has been a striking increase, over time, in the importance of home runs allowed.

 

Era

SO9

BB9

Ratio

HRF

1956-1973

.456

.443

.582

.238

1974-1993

.437

.485

.601

.400

1994-2010

.498

.581

.672

.580

Last 10 awards

.342

.551

.610

.559

 

 

 

 

 

 

Era

SO9

BB9

Ratio

HRF

All 99 Awards

.464

.510

.622

.424

           

 

            HRF is "Home Run Frequency".  In the early history of the award, Home Run frequency was not at all predictive of Cy Young success.   In 1956 Don Newcombe won the first award despite allowing 33 home runs, second-highest total in the majors.    In 1968 Denny McLain won 31 games and was unanimously voted the American League Cy Young Award despite leading the majors in home runs allowed, also with 31.    Home Run frequency was less than 10% predictive of Cy Young votes in 9 of the first 26 Awards.

            Over time, although raw home run totals really have not increased all that much, home run frequency has become much more predictive of Cy Young success.   In 1956 there were 1,239 major league games and 2,294 home runs, or 185 home runs per 100 games.  In 2010 there were 2,430 games and 4,613 home runs, or 190 home runs per 100 games.   Again, more on this in a moment.

            Looking now at the data for the "formula" predictors.   There were 11 formulas tested, of which five were dismissed earlier in this report.   The data for the other six is as follows:

 

 

Era

WL2

WLS3

RSA6

RSAL

Lvgd

SOBB

Score

1956-1973

.955

.968

.876

.782

.764

.669

.967

1974-1993

.834

.932

.800

.820

.810

.684

.968

1994-2010

.885

.918

.897

.909

.863

.807

.978

Last 10 awards

.866

.872

.931

.932

.880

.793

.971

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Era

WL2

WLS3

RSA6

RSAL

Lvgd

SOBB

Score

All 99 Awards

.883

.936

.855

.843

.818

.725

.971

                 

 

 

            I was looking at the question of how well the won-lost record, unaided, predicts Cy Young voting.  I started with 5W-3L, and realized that 5W-2L would work better, but. . .that doesn’t work great, either.    The measured predictive value of wins, unaided, was .889; of the won-lost record, .883.

            Wins only measure as more predictive than the won-lost record because of the way we treat ties.   Ties, in this system, are always interpreted as favorable to the match.   There are more ties in "wins" than in "won-lost record", so that causes wins to measure higher than the won-lost record.    But even allowing for that. ..losses don’t seem to mean much.   I was surprised by this; this, to me, was one of the largest surprises in the data, that LOSSES don’t seem to have very much meaning in Cy Young voting.   22-4; 22-12.   It’s all about the same.

            Wins, Losses, and Saves, however, can easily be combined into a simple predictive metric; 5W – 2L + Sv is 93.6% predictive of the Cy Young vote.   This, however, has become progressively less reliable over time, and it appears that this is still happening, that this is still becoming less reliable.

            RSA6 is Runs Saved versus a 6.00 ERA .  A pitcher who pitched 225 innings with a 6.00 ERA would allow 150 earned runs.   When Jason Schmidt in 2004 pitched 225 innings and allowed 80 earned runs, then, he was 70 runs better than a pitcher with a 6.00 ERA—70 RSA6.

            RSA6 is, essentially, a stand-in for ERA.   I understood before doing the study that ERA could not measure as highly predictive of Cy Young voting because of the problem with pitchers posting 1.50 ERAs in 60 meaningless innings.   What could predict Cy Young performance, however, is Runs Saved—that is, pitching a lot of innings with a low ERA.

            RSA6 is much more predictive than ERA (.855 vs. .605), but it still is not highly predictive—or anyway has not been until the last few years.   Over the history of the award there have been many pitchers with outstanding innings & ERA combinations who basically never showed up in Cy Young voting.

            In 1956 Early Wynn had the best innings & ERA combination, pitching more innings than Don Newcombe with a better ERA, and Wynn did go 20-9, so it’s not like he was a zero in that area, either.   But Wynn was not mentioned in the Cy Young voting.

            In 1958, when Bob Turley won the Cy Young Award with a 2.98 ERA, his teammate Whitey Ford had a 2.01 ERA, leading the majors in RSA6.  Ford was not mentioned in the Cy Young vote.

            In 1959 Warren Spahn led the majors in RSA6 and won 21 games as he always did, pitching more innings than the Cy Young Award winner (Wynn) with a better ERA, but was not mentioned in the Cy Young voting.

            In 1960 Don Drysdale led the majors in RSA6, pitching essentially as many innings as the Cy Young Award winner (Vern Law) with a better ERA, but was not mentioned in the Cy Young voting.

            In 1964 Drysdale again led the majors in RSA6, but again was not mentioned in the Cy Young voting.

            In 1969 Bob Gibson led the National League in RSA6 (314 innings with a 2.18 ERA), pitching more innings than the Cy Young winner (Tom Seaver) and with a better ERA, but was not mentioned in the Cy Young voting. 

            And look at the names of the pitchers who were slighted—Early Wynn, Whitey Ford, Warren Spahn, Don Drysdale, Bob Gibson.   These were Hall of Fame pitchers, the biggest names of their era—but in seasons in which they merely had fantastic combinations of innings pitched and ERA, but without great won-lost records, they were entirely ignored by the Cy Young voters.

            In recent years this does appear to have definitively changed.   Felix Hernandez, Zack Greinke and CC Sabathia have won American League Cy Young Awards in 2007, 2009 and 2010 when they did not lead the league in wins or have the league’s best won-lost records, but did lead the league in RSA6.

            In the first era (1956-1973, 26 awards) the Cy Young voting is 96.2% consistent with wins and 96.8% consistent with WLS3, but only 87.6% consistent with RSA6.   But in the last ten votes (2006-2010), the voting is 93.1% consistent with RSA6, as opposed to 88.5% consistent with Wins, 87.2% consistent with WLS3.   It does appear that we can conclude that pitching a lot of innings with a good ERA may now be more important, in Cy Young voting, than posting a good won-lost record.   An analysis of the data suggests that this change may have occurred as early as 1997, and certainly occurred no later than 2005.

            I would have thought that RSA6 would be a better predictor than RSAL (Runs Saved vs. League Average), and it is, but not by the margin that I would have anticipated.   RSA6 favors a pitcher who pitches more innings, thus favors a workhorse pitcher of the type that has usually done well in Cy Young voting.   Nonetheless, RSAL is essentially as good, as a predictor of Cy Young voting, as RSA6.

I had thought that "leveraging" the Runs Saved against League by considering Saves might increase the significance of Runs Saved against League as a predictor of Cy Young voting.   To my surprise, this proved to be totally untrue.   The study reports on one leveraging formula, but actually I checked several.   Anything you do to leverage the RSAL by considering saves will reduce, not increase, the connection between RSAL and Cy Young votes. 

            Now, perhaps the most interesting thing in the study is the increase in the significance of the strikeout and walk data.   Like ERA, a "raw" strikeout/walk ratio is not a good predictor of Cy Young performance because there will be pitchers with dominant performance in limited roles who don’t show up for the Cy Young ballot.   To cover this problem I created SOBB, which is 2 * Strikeouts minus 3 * Walks.   This favors a good strikeout/walk ratio, obviously, but it also pays attention to innings pitched.    50 strikeouts and 5 walks is a far better strikeout/walk ratio than 250 to 70, but 50-5 scores at 85 SOBB, whereas 250-70 scores at 290.

            Our data shows a steady growth in the significance of SOBB over time, from .669 in the first era to .807 in the third era.   But the question is, is this an increase in the perceived importance of the stat—like ERA versus wins—or is it an increase in the actual importance of the performance area.

            I believe that this results from an increase in the actual importance of the performance area.   There’s an intricate question here, and I’m not certain I have it right, but I believe that there’s a significant shift involved here.  In the history of baseball up until about 1980, 1990, strikeout pitchers were also walk pitchers.    From 1950 to 1959, these are the top single-season strikeout performances in baseball:

Pitcher

YEAR

SO

Herb Score

1956

263

Herb Score

1955

245

Don Drysdale

1959

242

Sam Jones

1958

225

Bob Turley

1955

210

Sam Jones

1959

209

Jim Bunning

1959

201

Robin Roberts

1953

198

Sam Jones

1955

198

Billy Pierce

1956

192

Warren Spahn

1950

191

Ewell Blackwell

1950

188

Jack Sanford

1957

188

Carl Erskine

1953

187

Billy Pierce

1953

186

Robin Roberts

1954

185

Camilo Pascual

1959

185

Bob Turley

1954

185

Harvey Haddix

1954

184

Early Wynn

1957

184

Paul Foytack

1956

184

Warren Spahn

1952

183

Jim Bunning

1957

182

 

            But almost all of those pitchers also walked a large number of batters:

 

Pitcher

YEAR

SO

BB

Herb Score

1956

263

129

Herb Score

1955

245

154

Don Drysdale

1959

242

93

Sam Jones

1958

225

107

Bob Turley

1955

210

177

Sam Jones

1959

209

109

Jim Bunning

1959

201

75

Robin Roberts

1953

198

61

Sam Jones

1955

198

185

Billy Pierce

1956

192

100

Warren Spahn

1950

191

111

Ewell Blackwell

1950

188

112

Jack Sanford

1957

188

94

Carl Erskine

1953

187

95

Billy Pierce

1953

186

102

Robin Roberts

1954

185

56

Camilo Pascual

1959

185

69

Bob Turley

1954

185

181

Harvey Haddix

1954

184

77

Early Wynn

1957

184

104

Paul Foytack

1956

184

142

Warren Spahn

1952

183

73

Jim Bunning

1957

182

72

 

 

            Whereas the Cy Young pitchers of that era who had very good control—Vern Law in 1960, Don Newcombe in 1956, up to Randy Jones in 1976—had very few walks and very few strikeouts.   The strikeout pitchers were good but not great pitchers.   The winning percentage of the pitchers on the list above is just .578.

            In other words, the starting pitchers of that era could be divided into power pitchers and finesse pitchers.   It was not so much that one group was better than the other, but that there were good pitchers in each group.   This had always been true, from 1870 to 1980—that "power pitching" was a type of pitching, rather than a type of excellence. 

            But post-1980, this becomes dramatically less true.   In modern baseball everybody is a power pitcher, basically, and most of the best pitchers are those who get the most strikeouts.    Look at the top strikeout seasons of the last ten years:

 

First

Last

Year

SO

BB

Randy

Johnson

2001

372

71

Randy

Johnson

2000

347

76

Randy

Johnson

2002

334

71

Curt

Schilling

2002

316

33

Curt

Schilling

2001

293

39

Randy

Johnson

2004

290

44

Pedro

Martinez

2000

284

32

Justin

Verlander

2009

269

63

Kerry

Wood

2003

266

100

Tim

Lincecum

2008

265

84

Johan

Santana

2004

265

54

Ben

Sheets

2004

264

32

Tim

Lincecum

2009

261

68

C.C.

Sabathia

2008

251

59

Jason

Schmidt

2004

251

77

Johan

Santana

2006

245

47

Mark

Prior

2003

245

50

Zack

Greinke

2009

242

51

Javier

Vazquez

2003

241

57

Jake

Peavy

2007

240

68

Scott

Kazmir

2007

239

89

Oliver

Perez

2004

239

81

Pedro

Martinez

2002

239

40

Javier

Vazquez

2009

238

44

Johan

Santana

2005

238

45

 

            These pitchers, despite their high strikeout totals, issued only an average number of walks—and thus posted a winning percentage, as a group, of .688.

            As strikeouts have become more common, having a good strikeout/walk ratio has become more important—not perceived as more important, like ERA, but actually more important.   It’s a very large change in the game.   This change probably also explains the increased significance of Home Run Frequency as a Cy Young predictor.   From 1956 to 1980, Home Run frequency probably was not a good predictor of overall excellence for a pitcher because those pitchers who gave up the fewest home runs were also those who gave up the most walks.    But in modern baseball this is not true, or is (at least) much less noticeably true, which makes home run frequency more importance, since the home runs are not competing with walks.

            And—no surprise to me—the Season Score tracks with Cy Young voting at a very, very high level throughout the history of the award, much higher than any other stat that we checked.    There are only three Cy Young contests in history in which the Season Score does not match the Cy Young voting at a rate of at least 90% (1956, 1959, and the 1987 National League.)

            The Season Score tracks with Cy Young voting because that is what it is designed to do.   If I could figure out a way to make it track better with the Cy Young voting, I would change the formula so it tracks better.   It is not surprising that a formula designed to imitate Cy Young voting patterns matches well with Cy Young voting patterns.

            While this match may have slipped very slightly in recent years, due to the decreased importance of Wins and Losses, we are not yet in position to conclude that there has been a meaningful divergence of Season Scores and Cy Young voting performance.   Taking just the last ten votes, the Season Scores are 97.1% predictive of Cy Young voting, the same as their overall performance over the 99 votes. 

            The charts below summarize the significance of each statistic in each of the 99 Cy Young votes.  In the 2001 National League and the 2002 American League votes, the Season Scores shows as 100% predictive of Cy Young voting, but these are not actually "true 100s".   It’s actually 99.96% in the National League in 2001, and 99.97% in the American League in 2002:

 

Year

Award

Wins

Saves

ERA

IP

CG

ShO

SO

BB

1956

Combo

.739

.054

.629

.552

.588

.821

.396

.023

1957

Combo

.985

.376

.619

.925

.997

.892

.226

.526

1958

Combo

.992

.090

.317

.902

.933

.576

.677

.492

1959

Combo

.990

.096

.106

.727

.551

.942

.811

.942

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1960

Combo

.903

.167

.191

.698

.880

.701

.287

.199

1961

Combo

.990

.000

.173

.961

.641

.829

.557

.325

1962

Combo

.974

.029

.369

.898

.776

.389

.764

.489

1963

Combo

1.000

.000

.920

.920

.960

1.000

1.000

.000

1964

Combo

.929

.103

.869

.782

.817

.944

.635

.694

1965

Combo

1.000

.080

.840

1.000

1.000

.960

1.000

.160

1966

Combo

1.000

.000

.880

1.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

.560

1967

AL

.992

.000

.084

.944

.956

.462

.904

.562

1967

NL

1.000

.000

.042

.821

.781

.960

.388

.877

1968

AL

1.000

.000

.800

1.000

1.000

.960

.960

.280

1968

NL

.960

.000

1.000

.920

.960

1.000

1.000

.400

1969

AL

1.000

.000

.454

.952

.936

.952

.800

.360

1969

NL

1.000

.020

.866

.603

.765

.800

.636

.538

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1970

AL

.973

.025

.208

.943

.916

.724

.804

.468

1970

NL

.959

.054

.475

.902

.903

.804

.894

.632

1971

AL

.996

.044

.590

.947

.970

.888

.950

.619

1971

NL

.985

.008

.584

.863

.882

.741

.851

.281

1972

AL

.954

.264

.782

.913

.949

.832

.829

.646

1972

NL

.938

.064

.680

.864

.849

.739

.783

.668

1973

AL

.897

.369

.513

.658

.702

.819

.698

.721

1973

NL

.883

.269

.546

.691

.575

.446

.583

.502

1974

AL

.997

.004

.588

.925

.919

.921

.689

.210

1974

NL

.771

.555

.654

.514

.382

.406

.684

.338

1975

AL

.873

.413

.859

.862

.844

.855

.759

.425

1975

NL

.872

.160

.876

.812

.812

.799

.547

.367

1976

AL

.970

.006

.524

.853

.949

.867

.582

.507

1976

NL

.974

.029

.431

.824

.970

.746

.480

.204

1977

AL

.689

.424

.841

.661

.677

.595

.691

.616

1977

NL

.974

.051

.622

.791

.845

.793

.756

.589

1978

AL

.983

.169

.868

.824

.846

.971

.820

.327

1978

NL

.939

.091

.395

.794

.343

.595

.618

.501

1979

AL

.885

.183

.652

.800

.764

.797

.812

.434

1979

NL

.595

.417

.621

.542

.523

.600

.523

.543

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1980

AL

.834

.185

.672

.697

.583

.303

.684

.692

1980

NL

.972

.040

.506

.888

.884

.828

.782

.710

1981

AL

.487

.530

.825

.426

.436

.417

.509

.421

1981

NL

.984

.005

.653

.936

.926

.769

.929

.971

1982

AL

.688

.281

.542

.398

.444

.494

.251

.502

1982

NL

.873

.145

.338

.877

.875

.864

.802

.719

1983

AL

.679

.333

.389

.626

.577

.178

.541

.164

1983

NL

.927

.086

.525

.767

.700

.515

.633

.436

1984

AL

.377

.635

.842

.283

.343

.344

.236

.189

1984

NL

.772

.172

.663

.180

.595

.745

.723

.182

1985

AL

.948

.045

.478

.617

.767

.607

.724

.052

1985

NL

.988

.005

.922

.972

.985

.980

.909

.341

1986

AL

.919

.088

.814

.834

.766

.624

.906

.510

1986

NL

.980

.001

.475

.966

.869

.969

.964

.609

1987

AL

.905

.016

.699

.855

.817

.817

.804

.565

1987

NL

.613

.307

.419

.595

.638

.582

.516

.413

1988

AL

.803

.215

.637

.675

.486

.636

.728

.181

1988

NL

1.000

.160

.583

.936

.952

.976

.789

.775

1989

AL

.971

.025

.513

.942

.926

.612

.751

.213

1989

NL

.483

.526

.474

.345

.423

.336

.324

.224

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1990

AL

.916

.091

.526

.878

.558

.888

.608

.593

1990

NL

.996

.005

.224

.900

.960

.941

.726

.583

1991

AL

.898

.050

.447

.792

.804

.854

.682

.425

1991

NL

.713

.292

.701

.565

.583

.413

.578

.394

1992

AL

.545

.447

.527

.503

.551

.432

.463

.254

1992

NL

.983

.014

.461

.808

.827

.864

.567

.600

1993

AL

.976

.218

.391

.896

.856

.953

.740

.523

1993

NL

.935

.000

.586

.942

.671

.673

.724

.290

1994

AL

.991

.004

.810

.763

.688

.525

.768

.747

1994

NL

.988

.010

.830

.909

.781

.664

.855

.497

1995

AL

.776

.205

.850

.689

.683

.694

.740

.568

1995

NL

.982

.000

.734

.864

.881

.748

.867

.283

1996

AL

.949

.057

.628

.786

.753

.477

.694

.723

1996

NL

.969

.043

.741

.912

.921

.956

.757

.274

1997

AL

.950

.057

.758

.823

.930

.925

.930

.659

1997

NL

.919

.000

.941

.850

.896

.938

.867

.326

1998

AL

.964

.000

.799

.791

.720

.859

.923

.707

1998

NL

.672

.321

.807

.560

.588

.658

.473

.307

1999

AL

.882

.130

.819

.682

.819

.644

.849

.371

1999

NL

.866

.013

.730

.932

.846

.825

.874

.741

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2000

AL

.935

.012

.665

.864

.946

.978

.899

.385

2000

NL

.897

.067

.653

.886

.881

.930

.726

.381

2001

AL

.983

.000

.359

.744

.454

.471

.766

.621

2001

NL

.973

.000

.758

.949

.886

.899

.977

.485

2002

AL

.990

.000

.724

.614

.464

.121

.843

.483

2002

NL

.888

.100

.438

.888

.874

.769

.885

.341

2003

AL

.947

.004

.526

.873

.755

.619

.923

.203

2003

NL

.469

.523

.819

.305

.425

.418

.445

.032

2004

AL

.883

.116

.719

.856

.683

.550

.882

.393

2004

NL

.933

.012

.422

.840

.453

.487

.906

.483

2005

AL

.714

.257

.345

.608

.577

.223

.589

.090

2005

NL

.909

.004

.503

.854

.886

.859

.700

.219

2006

AL

.934

.140

.457

.928

.760

.191

.606

.172

2006

NL

.665

.298

.764

.650

.655

.607

.509

.085

2007

AL

.991

.000

.430

.772

.801

.634

.785

.100

2007

NL

.988

.007

.580

.928

.387

.374

.940

.721

2008

AL

.870

.142

.590

.822

.816

.826

.692

.066

2008

NL

.906

.035

.684

.894

.853

.780

.865

.718

2009

AL

.888

.000

.779

.909

.891

.915

.950

.475

2009

NL

.981

.000

.746

.737

.828

.636

.730

.427

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2010

AL

.716

.016

.632

.809

.651

.619

.839

.227

2010

NL

.916

.021

.556

.880

.938

.861

.859

.734

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Era

Wins

Saves

ERA

IP

CG

ShO

SO

BB

All 99 Awards

.889

.122

.605

.786

.761

.711

.726

.440

 

Year

Award

SO9

BB9

Ratio

HRF

WLS3

RSA6

RSAL

Lvgd

SOBB

Score

1956

Combo

.046

.826

.821

.064

.793

.637

.652

.627

.777

.885

1957

Combo

.000

.206

.035

.090

.990

.990

.982

.982

.028

.955

1958

Combo

.239

.486

.320

.160

1.000

.792

.638

.612

.323

.980

1959

Combo

.588

.035

.005

.255

.952

.760

.500

.402

.066

.841

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1960

Combo

.126

.630

.566

.038

.968

.704

.543

.534

.601

.971

1961

Combo

.282

.294

.282

.178

.947

1.000

.822

.759

.566

.976

1962

Combo

.228

.381

.548

.257

.988

.851

.731

.731

.640

.945

1963

Combo

.880

.600

1.000

.040

1.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

1964

Combo

.042

.069

.046

.839

.897

.925

.903

.903

.335

.978

1965

Combo

.960

.520

.960

.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

1966

Combo

.800

.040

.880

.160

1.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

1967

AL

.759

.369

.542

.072

.996

.787

.100

.100

.867

.968

1967

NL

.070

.028

.066

.008

.992

.821

.519

.479

.097

.966

1968

AL

.720

.920

1.000

.000

1.000

1.000

.960

.960

1.000

1.000

1968

NL

.920

.640

.960

.640

.960

1.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

1.000

1969

AL

.055

.833

.723

.398

1.000

.971

.897

.847

.862

1.000

1969

NL

.464

.270

.576

.000

1.000

.720

.831

.831

.686

.995

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1970

AL

.336

.653

.667

.280

.962

.917

.601

.503

.879

.958

1970

NL

.618

.543

.794

.612

.992

.884

.889

.896

.874

.977

1971

AL

.807

.433

.910

.223

.995

.948

.919

.903

.954

.981

1971

NL

.678

.732

.778

.134

.963

.913

.868

.851

.789

.969

1972

AL

.374

.650

.672

.286

.966

.951

.961

.950

.819

.974

1972

NL

.617

.411

.758

.473

.972

.892

.848

.832

.768

.949

1973

AL

.337

.195

.259

.497

.900

.800

.754

.712

.412

.943

1973

NL

.446

.322

.380

.255

.958

.635

.630

.683

.380

.956

1974

AL

.380

.805

.785

.070

.975

.959

.945

.900

.908

.990

1974

NL

.678

.508

.844

.343

.911

.700

.798

.818

.820

.912

1975

AL

.387

.844

.788

.371

.941

.886

.916

.914

.847

.957

1975

NL

.612

.457

.694

.542

.987

.815

.937

.955

.698

.971

1976

AL

.087

.529

.347

.115

.904

.946

.918

.911

.453

.976

1976

NL

.351

.644

.425

.294

.944

.913

.814

.777

.463

.994

1977

AL

.479

.396

.385

.714

.925

.758

.915

.941

.523

.971

1977

NL

.319

.377

.387

.347

.975

.926

.912

.846

.778

.942

1978

AL

.528

.701

.882

.655

.989

.981

.985

.984

.883

.994

1978

NL

.156

.446

.267

.582

.973

.843

.769

.678

.511

.971

1979

AL

.601

.528

.744

.338

.978

.953

.917

.854

.812

.971

1979

NL

.578

.049

.554

.704

.826

.573

.792

.887

.575

.982

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1980

AL

.498

.156

.415

.357

.928

.738

.780

.780

.430

.945

1980

NL

.529

.325

.729

.134

.985

.933

.816

.794

.784

.985

1981

AL

.702

.619

.686

.603

.870

.555

.917

.906

.623

.990

1981

NL

.794

.229

.591

.466

.968

.968

.907

.883

.685

.991

1982

AL

.041

.393

.227

.270

.899

.763

.846

.766

.176

.950

1982

NL

.571

.225

.610

.304

.947

.803

.635

.630

.774

.928

1983

AL

.195

.881

.955

.314

.906

.752

.578

.513

.835

.989

1983

NL

.313

.468

.440

.527

.940

.899

.896

.826

.694

.994

1984

AL

.353

.574

.705

.488

.883

.447

.835

.965

.517

.970

1984

NL

.756

.509

.917

.302

.939

.290

.611

.591

.858

.963

1985

AL

.267

.896

.887

.253

.950

.865

.840

.745

.936

.992

1985

NL

.534

.643

.784

.668

.991

.985

.961

.961

.928

.990

1986

AL

.668

.564

.682

.398

.981

.942

.971

.959

.909

.987

1986

NL

.781

.479

.932

.488

.923

.949

.830

.808

.988

.998

1987

AL

.459

.418

.608

.771

.940

.939

.932

.899

.795

.951

1987

NL

.387

.515

.481

.317

.683

.654

.547

.545

.462

.761

1988

AL

.383

.649

.694

.334

.923

.753

.750

.850

.771

.963

1988

NL

.136

.209

.148

.168

1.000

.998

.967

.918

.587

.998

1989

AL

.135

.664

.571

.379

.973

.892

.722

.657

.783

.965

1989

NL

.535

.095

.588

.197

.785

.325

.447

.573

.396

.976

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1990

AL

.240

.278

.309

.416

.986

.888

.912

.836

.386

.985

1990

NL

.331

.492

.474

.301

.994

.903

.816

.697

.750

.997

1991

AL

.404

.372

.461

.354

.858

.845

.815

.736

.632

.949

1991

NL

.586

.508

.697

.219

.919

.673

.738

.887

.692

.999

1992

AL

.645

.715

.746

.223

.940

.514

.661

.806

.849

.987

1992

NL

.201

.277

.397

.856

.978

.888

.813

.783

.501

.962

1993

AL

.385

.500

.516

.352

.981

.792

.766

.653

.778

.945

1993

NL

.174

.548

.487

.437

.893

.956

.908

.822

.761

.976

1994

AL

.671

.619

.688

.800

.988

.932

.932

.933

.767

.985

1994

NL

.455

.862

.751

.869

.980

.940

.914

.871

.807

.990

1995

AL

.782

.595

.796

.754

.922

.853

.948

.975

.761

.990

1995

NL

.290

.764

.783

.660

.982

.909

.902

.850

.844

.996

1996

AL

.350

.613

.463

.719

.943

.841

.818

.743

.612

.942

1996

NL

.459

.849

.912

.622

.957

.932

.919

.876

.890

.972

1997

AL

.829

.550

.886

.710

.952

.928

.928

.952

.943

.984

1997

NL

.553

.713

.851

.743

.890

.981

.977

.971

.950

.985

1998

AL

.829

.288

.682

.622

.968

.967

.967

.925

.944

.997

1998

NL

.434

.359

.542

.901

.896

.660

.815

.935

.361

.973

1999

AL

.782

.787

.875

.839

.955

.906

.915

.924

.887

.987

1999

NL

.491

.405

.549

.467

.870

.964

.986

.967

.604

.999

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2000

AL

.758

.830

.876

.612

.956

.916

.844

.741

.929

.960

2000

NL

.592

.560

.746

.436

.927

.913

.919

.901

.831

.996

2001

AL

.315

.206

.341

.534

.991

.847

.781

.570

.788

.999

2001

NL

.834

.601

.915

.445

.974

.983

.981

.975

.986

1.000

2002

AL

.494

.451

.403

.363

.992

.978

.985

.984

.719

1.000

2002

NL

.911

.647

.915

.086

.949

.888

.837

.774

.909

.953

2003

AL

.437

.710

.821

.465

.951

.949

.916

.841

.923

.978

2003

NL

.839

.680

.900

.733

.877

.505

.878

.925

.863

.996

2004

AL

.742

.794

.886

.401

.980

.925

.976

.908

.924

.998

2004

NL

.639

.298

.391

.686

.720

.908

.876

.776

.850

.931

2005

AL

.362

.711

.692

.326

.953

.672

.790

.640

.737

.975

2005

NL

.117

.481

.418

.698

.889

.936

.938

.849

.743

.982

2006

AL

.376

.646

.597

.278

.954

.950

.886

.714

.696

.938

2006

NL

.130

.812

.737

.646

.660

.715

.834

.949

.590

.954

2007

AL

.305

.724

.736

.356

.972

.948

.914

.732

.877

.956

2007

NL

.468

.320

.505

.669

.982

.985

.966

.923

.856

.991

2008

AL

.218

.733

.725

.735

.946

.854

.897

.847

.787

.993

2008

NL

.492

.221

.429

.623

.920

.926

.899

.904

.818

.993

2009

AL

.476

.646

.706

.936

.860

.999

.999

.971

.927

.990

2009

NL

.445

.584

.649

.691

.936

.985

.999

.997

.852

.997

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2010

AL

.078

.681

.676

.222

.585

.972

.954

.843

.721

.947

2010

NL

.429

.139

.335

.434

.907

.976

.970

.921

.810

.951

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Era

SO9

BB9

Ratio

HRF

WLS3

RSA6

RSAL

Lvgd

SOBB

Score

All 99 Awards

.464

.510

.622

.424

.936

.855

.843

.818

.725

.971

 
 

COMMENTS (14 Comments, most recent shown first)

tbell
Under the guise of what appears to be yet another article dissecting the psychological quirks and intellectual inadequacies of BBWAA voters … you sneak in something actually about baseball.

Very tricky!

And very interesting … almost enough to convince me that there is indeed some wisdom to be gained mulling over the awards voting habits of the past ….
11:43 PM Dec 8th
 
CharlesSaeger
1987 is an odd year since there's no obvious candidate in the NL for Cy Young. Ryan led in ERA and strikeouts, but went 8-16. Orel Hershiser had the top WAR for pitchers, being third in ERA and first in innings, but went 16-16. His teammate Bob Welch is only a tenth of a win behind Hershiser and probably should have won the award, going 15-9, finished 8th in the voting. The previous year's winner, Mike Scott, wasn't as good as he was the year before and went 16-13. Rounding out the top 5 in WAR is Rick Sutcliffe, who led the league in wins with 18, finished second, probably because his ERA was 3.68, which is better than it looks since he pitched for a bad team in a hitters' park. (Sutcliffe went 18-10, the same as Scott the year before, but Scott struck out 303 men with a 2.22 ERA and played for a division winner. Eighteen wins isn't that impressive for a Cy Young Award winner in this era.)

So, taken together, you have:

* A guy who leads the league in ERA and strikeouts but goes 8-16.
* A guy who pitches 264.2 innings and has a 3.03 ERA, but goes 16-16.
* His teammate, who goes 15-9 with a 3.22 ERA in 251.2 innings.
* A guy who leads the league in wins, going 18-10, but has a 3.68 ERA, again, albeit playing for a bad team in a hitters' park. (Applying park adjustments that year could well have given the Cubs the Cy Young Award winner and lost them the MVP, which would have been much nearer the truth than what happened.)
* The previous year's winner going 16-13 with a 3.23 ERA.

Rick Reuschel went 13-9 with a 3.09 ERA in 227 innings for two teams, and got four first place votes in spite of a whopping 109 strikeouts. Dwight Gooden, going 15-7 with a 3.21 ERA in 179.2 innings, also got a first place vote for reasons that escape me. The voters, not able to pick out a clear candidate, punted and let a relief pitcher squeak by (Bedrosian barely beat Sutcliffe and Reuschel).
11:32 AM Dec 7th
 
Trailbzr
Expanding on some earlier remarks. In the 1970s, Jim Palmer won three Cy Youngs with 22,23 and 22 wins, completing 19, 25 and 23. They weren't all the same games, of course, but there was about an 80% overlap. That was typical of baseball history up to that point.
Then in the early 1980s, Steve Stone went 25-7, completing 9; Pete Vukovich went 18-6, completing 9 (six wins); and Lamarr Hoyt went 24-10 completing 11. Those three pitchers had a collective ONE winning season after that. There was even talk at the time about a "curse of the Cy Young Award."
I suspect that during the era of complete games, W/L out of proportion to the rest of the record suggested he had "pitched to the score." But the three cases above woke the voters up to the fact that since starters no longer completed most of their wins, an outsized WL no longer had the significance it once might have been thought to. (Whether there ever WAS pitching to the score is another question.)
8:37 AM Dec 7th
 
MarisFan61
Follow-up on my prior comments: It was the right thing for me to "mostly take back" my supposition -- but I think not totally.

I finished going through all the Cy Young votes, looking specifically for instances of "Like Nolan Ryan in '87 and Felix in '10" -- i.e. significant Cy Young support despite middling W-L records. Of course this depends on definitions, and I can give mine on request (together with all the data). And.....not surprisingly, even this somewhat contrived look gives a result that is line with what Bill found: 1987 was essentially an aberration, not just with the results for Ryan but also with Rick Reuschel being 3rd (45% share) with a W-L of only 13-8, and Hershisher 4th (12%) with 16-16.

However, it does seem to me that since 1999 and more clearly since 2000, there has been an increasing willingness to give some votes to pitchers with fewer wins, although it might reflect mainly the declining wins in general for starters and *it was just a smattering of votes* -- until this year, when it fairly exploded, not just with Felix's win but also with the following other results:

Jered Weaver 13-12, 5th, 12% share
Cliff Lee 12-9, 7th, 3%
Liriano 14-10, 11th, 1%
Josh Johnson 11-6, 5th, 15%
Oswalt 13-13, 6th, 6%
Latos 14-10, t8th, 2%
B. Myers 14-8, t10th, 1%
Cain 13-11, t12th, <1%

These things could just reflect what Bill said about the increasing *actual* importance of the "performance area" as opposed to merely changed perceptions about W-L records, as well as the declining number of wins for starters. I 'feel' pretty sure that it also reflects greater sophistication, thanks in large part to more widespread appreciation of basic sabermetric concepts, but what I "feel" doesn't count for much -- and in any event, I don't find anything to strongly support my prior impression that it has been a gradually growing phenomenon since 1987.

Many thanks to Bill, of course, for fleshing this out and expanding the view so comprehensively.
10:42 PM Dec 6th
 
jdw
Interesting to look at the years where an RP has won the award, along with other years where he "Save Value" is high, and then see how Score Value did in those years.

[Side note: there may be an input error on 1957 as discussed below]


Here are the RP years, along with the other years where Save was over .300:

Saves

.555 1974 NL Mike Marshall
.424 1977 AL Sparky Lyle
.417 1979 NL Bruce Sutter
.530 1981 AL Rollie Fingers
.635 1984 AL Willie Hernandez
.307 1987 NL Steve Bedrosian
.526 1989 NL Mark Davis
.447 1992 AL Dennis Eckersley
.523 2003 NL Eric Gagne

.376 1957 Combo (fluke typo?)
.369 1973 AL (Hiller)
.413 1975 AL (Fingers)
.333 1983 AL (Quiz)
.321 1998 NL (Hoffman)

In the years where a RP didn't win, but the Save Value was above .300, I referenced the RP who was driving that bus.

1957 is strange. Only two pitchers got Votes: Dick Donovan got one vote and 0 saves, while Spahn got the other 15 votes and had 3 saves. The NL leaderboard went down to 8, while the AL wen down to 6 with a five way tie for 10th at six. That's 24 pitchers (10+14) in the two top 10 lists from B-R.com. Have to think at least one other pitcher had 4+ saves. With a .376 Save Value given for that year, I would think there must have been an input error for 1957 if neither of the pitchers make the top 25?

Anyway, that's a side note. What's more interesting is how score handles these years when an RP won or Saves had a much larger than normal impact on voting:

Score

.912 1974 NL Mike Marshall
.971 1977 AL Sparky Lyle
.982 1979 NL Bruce Sutter
.990 1981 AL Rollie Fingers
.970 1984 AL Willie Hernandez
.761 1987 NL Steve Bedrosian
.976 1989 NL Mark Davis
.987 1992 AL Dennis Eckersley
.996 2003 NL Eric Gagne

.943 1973 AL (Hiller)
.957 1975 AL (Fingers)
.989 1983 AL (Quiz)
.973 1998 NL (Hoffman)

On average over the years, Score Value was .971.

Removing what 1957, the average score value in the "reliever seasons" is roughly .954. That includes 1987 NL which Bill mentioned was one of only three scores to be below .900:

.761 1987 NL
.841 1959 Combo
.885 1956 Combo

It's by far the worst.

Throwing out best/worst would toss the 1987 NL outlier (.761) and Gagne's 2003 NL (.996), the average Score Value in the other 11 seasons would be .968. Extremely close to the .971 overall Score Value.

Score does do a good job of capturing the type of RP's that have done well in Cy Young voting to the degree that an RP winning doesn't throw the value off.

Probably a meaningless observation, but just very interesting that Score does so well in what one would think are "problem" years.
6:50 PM Dec 6th
 
MarisFan61
P.S. I started taking a look, and I think I have to mostly take back what I said.
I see that as of the early '70's, while there wasn't anything like a "8-16" guy getting votes (and maybe that was just a "one-off"), there was often a little support for pitchers with records like 14-17 or 17-16.
3:51 PM Dec 6th
 
MarisFan61
Bill,
I think the possibility I mentioned could be a kind of thing that can only be detected in a more targeted way, or else it gets drowned -- because if anything, it has been a very small thing peeping through over a period of years. I wonder if something more would have shown up if we looked just at the history of instances of voting support for starting pitchers with middling win totals and/or W-L records (which of course we'd have to define).

It seems to me that this is what we're most wondering about, when it comes to something like Felix's candidacy or N. Ryan's support in '87. What kicked this off was really, "What's the story about someone with a W-L record like Felix's having a chance at the Cy Young?"

Maybe I'll try to do it, or maybe someone else here will. It wouldn't take nearly as much work as this article, and it wouldn't show nearly as much -- but I think it might have a better chance to detect what I think it was that we were wondering about.
2:32 PM Dec 6th
 
Kev
Baserunners per 9 IP (or WHIP) has been noted as the best SINGLE evaluative metric for measuring pitcher value. Does SO/BB ratio rank second, or at least top 5?
2:09 PM Dec 6th
 
MarisFan61
Bill: I think I know why you couldn't find the "Hey Bill" that you mention at the opening.

I think you're referring to something from me -- and I'm pretty sure you never posted it!
1:22 PM Dec 6th
 
PeteRidges
1) I don't know if this would interest you, or if you've already done it, but you might like to look at starting pitchers and relievers completely separately. This would tell you, for instance, do DTYA voters rank relievers in order of saves, or of something else? As you've indicated, one unfortunate consequence of putting them together is that ... well, take the 2003 NL score of .469 for wins, much lower than most years. All that tells us is that Eric Gagne had a season for the ages: it doesn't really tell us anything about voters' changing preferences.

2) A minor technical point: for ties, you could say "Hershiser 24.5, Jackson 24.5, Cone 23...
1:10 PM Dec 6th
 
Trailbzr
Taosjohn, that wasn't the question I meant to ask. I mean what fraction of wins are also complete games? When Jim Palmer won the 1976 Award, he completed 17 of his 22 wins (and some other games). When Lamarr Hoyt went 24-10 in 1983, he completed only 10 of his wins (and one loss). His subsequent performance possibly helped deprecate the significance of WL record in voting.
11:27 AM Dec 6th
 
taosjohn
For Trailbzr-- No one has started more than 37 games since 1987. No one has completed more than 18 games since 1987. Since we are talking about top rather than average performances, that would seem to make 1988 the turnover year, if I understand your question?
11:11 AM Dec 6th
 
jrickert
Looking at the list of RSA6 leaders who didn't win makes me wonder if the previous season should also be counted. When it's close, it seems like the pitcher who had a breakout season won over the pitcher who had his usual season. Unfortunately, I can think of about 50 ways to measure this, which is worse than no idea at all. Presumably change in season score would be a place to start, but I doubt that it's a place to finish. Any relief help out there?
9:33 AM Dec 6th
 
Trailbzr
W/L record voting and the associated Myth of Pitching to the Score as the fraction of wins that were complete games declined. Anyone have handy when the majority of wins (by starters) stopped being complete?
9:23 AM Dec 6th
 
 
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