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36.  Jacques Fournier (1923-1925)

              After Sisler the best first baseman in baseball was Jacques Fournier.   Fournier was a Lou Gehrig type, a big, strong left-handed power hitter:

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Jack

Fournier

1923

1

22

102

.351

.999

27.24

George

Kelly

1923

2

16

103

.307

.814

22.06

Jim

Bottomley

1923

3

8

94

.371

.960

21.31

Joe

Hauser

1923

4

17

94

.307

.873

20.10

Earl

Sheely

1923

5

4

88

.296

.759

19.49

 

     

 

   

 

 

Jack

Fournier

1924

1

27

116

.334

.965

29.44

George

Kelly

1924

2

21

136

.324

.902

23.84

Earl

Sheely

1924

3

3

103

.320

.837

21.11

Joe

Hauser

1924

4

27

115

.288

.874

20.78

Jim

Bottomley

1924

5

14

111

.316

.862

20.47

 

     

 

   

 

 

Jack

Fournier

1925

1

22

130

.350

1.015

26.70

Jim

Bottomley

1925

2

21

128

.367

.992

24.59

George

Kelly

1925

3

20

99

.309

.821

21.57

George

Grantham

1925

4

8

52

.326

.906

20.60

Earl

Sheely

1925

5

9

111

.315

.831

20.21

 

              Fournier was a good-looking, self-confident guy who had been raised in a family of some means.   In those years the Dodger players stayed during spring training two to a room in a not-very-good hotel in Clearwater, Florida, but according to Ira Smith (Baseball’s Famous First Basemen) Fournier stayed by himself in a much better hotel.   He was usually seen around town with some smokescreen, an actress or a model, and he talked to reporters about running for the Senate after he was out of baseball, although I don’t think he ever did.  

              The other thing I always think about in re Fournier is that the White Sox may have pitched their team history into a 40-year funk by a bad decision on Fournier.   Fournier was the White Sox first baseman from 1914 to 1916, and he was good for two years.  In 1914, just 24 years old, Fournier hit .311 and had the highest OPS of any major league first baseman.   In 1915 he hit .322, upped his OPS by almost 100 points with the aid of 18 triples, and had an OPS 87 points higher than any other major league first baseman.   I have him rated as the #2 first baseman of 1915. 

              In 1916 he had an off season; I don’t know if he was injured or what, but he had a bad year.  The White Sox sold Fournier to a Pacific Coast League team and purchased Chick Gandil from Washington to play first base for them.   Gandil wasn’t the hitter than Fournier had been in 1914-1915 or would be in the 1920s, but he was a better fielder, which was the thing in that era. 

              In 1917 the White Sox won the pennant.   The switch from Fournier to Gandil was widely praised by the press, cited as one of the key reasons the White Sox won the pennant.   I think this is a superstitious interpretation of history.   If A happens and then B happens, people will always write than A caused B, whether there was any actual connection or not.   The White Sox moved from second in 1916 to first in 1917 primarily because Eddie Cicotte pitched 187 innings with a 1.78 ERA, second-best in the league, in 1916, but 347 innings with a 1.53 ERA, best in the league, in 1917; otherwise it was pretty much the same team.  

              But the switch from Fournier to Gandil led to a long term disaster.   Gandil arranged the fix of the 1919 World Series; he was the guy who knew the gamblers and carried the money.   So if they don’t make that switch from Fournier to Gandil in 1917, here’s what happens, maybe:

              1)  They win the pennant anyway in 1917,

              2)  Fournier has a Hall of Fame career,

              3)  The 1919 team doesn’t throw the World Series,

              4)  The 1920 team wins the American League again,

              5)  Some other team becomes the center of the gambling scandals, and

              6)  The White Sox remain an upper-echelon American League team for the next 20 years. 

              Fournier fought his way back to the major leagues and became the #1 first baseman in the major leagues, but he lost what should have been his best years, when he should have been the cleanup hitter on perhaps the best team in baseball. 

 

37.  The Lou Gehrig Years (1926-1938)

              Lou Gehrig was the best first baseman in baseball from 1926 until 1937.   These are the rankings:

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Lou

Gehrig

1926

1

16

112

.313

.969

30.06

Jim

Bottomley

1926

2

19

120

.299

.870

24.35

George

Grantham

1926

3

8

70

.318

.890

22.52

George H.

Burns

1926

4

4

114

.358

.889

19.49

Joe

Judge

1926

5

7

92

.291

.808

19.10

 

             

 

Lou

Gehrig

1927

1

47

175

.373

1.240

38.12

Jim

Bottomley

1927

2

19

124

.303

.896

26.05

Bill

Terry

1927

3

20

121

.326

.907

23.47

Joe

Judge

1927

4

2

71

.308

.783

18.50

Lu

Blue

1927

5

1

42

.260

.748

17.73

 

             

 

Lou

Gehrig

1928

1

27

142

.374

1.115

39.38

Jim

Bottomley

1928

2

31

136

.325

1.030

26.36

George

Grantham

1928

3

10

85

.323

.894

24.74

Bill

Terry

1928

4

17

101

.326

.912

24.53

Del

Bissonette

1928

5

25

106

.320

.940

23.11

 

             

 

Lou

Gehrig

1929

1

35

126

.300

1.013

36.15

Jimmie

Foxx

1929

2

33

117

.354

1.088

30.70

Bill

Terry

1929

3

14

117

.372

.941

26.28

Dale

Alexander

1929

4

25

137

.343

.977

23.47

Jim

Bottomley

1929

5

29

137

.314

.959

22.38

 

             

 

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Lou

Gehrig

1930

1

41

174

.379

1.194

37.46

Jimmie

Foxx

1930

2

37

156

.335

1.066

32.57

Bill

Terry

1930

3

23

129

.401

1.071

29.62

Eddie

Morgan

1930

4

26

136

.349

1.014

23.86

Dale

Alexander

1930

5

20

135

.326

.878

19.92

 

             

 

Lou

Gehrig

1931

1

46

184

.341

1.108

36.42

Jimmie

Foxx

1931

2

30

120

.291

.947

31.48

Bill

Terry

1931

3

9

112

.349

.926

29.24

Eddie

Morgan

1931

4

11

86

.351

.961

22.03

George

Grantham

1931

5

10

46

.305

.851

20.63

 

             

 

Lou

Gehrig

1932

1

34

151

.349

1.072

37.57

Jimmie

Foxx

1932

2

58

169

.364

1.218

36.79

Bill

Terry

1932

3

28

117

.350

.962

29.95

Ripper

Collins

1932

4

21

91

.279

.802

19.32

Eddie

Morgan

1932

5

4

68

.293

.804

19.02

 

             

 

Jimmie

Foxx

1933

1

48

163

.356

1.153

37.62

Lou

Gehrig

1933

2

32

139

.334

1.030

37.12

Bill

Terry

1933

3

6

58

.322

.798

26.50

Ripper

Collins

1933

4

10

68

.310

.816

21.70

Joe

Kuhel

1933

5

11

107

.322

.851

20.64

 

             

 

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Lou

Gehrig

1934

1

49

165

.363

1.172

38.62

Jimmie

Foxx

1934

2

44

130

.334

1.102

33.77

Hank

Greenberg

1934

3

26

139

.339

1.005

26.81

Bill

Terry

1934

4

8

83

.354

.878

26.28

Ripper

Collins

1934

5

35

128

.333

1.008

25.25

 

             

 

Lou

Gehrig

1935

1

30

119

.329

1.049

36.43

Jimmie

Foxx

1935

2

36

115

.346

1.096

30.48

Hank

Greenberg

1935

3

36

170

.328

1.039

29.53

Ripper

Collins

1935

4

23

122

.313

.915

23.44

Zeke

Bonura

1935

5

21

92

.295

.849

22.63

 

             

 

Lou

Gehrig

1936

1

49

152

.354

1.174

36.12

Jimmie

Foxx

1936

2

41

143

.338

1.071

27.52

Johnny

Mize

1936

3

19

93

.329

.979

25.22

Zeke

Bonura

1936

4

12

138

.330

.908

24.31

Hal

Trosky

1936

5

42

162

.343

1.026

21.56

 

             

 

Lou

Gehrig

1937

1

37

159

.351

1.116

32.47

Johnny

Mize

1937

2

25

113

.364

1.021

31.26

Hank

Greenberg

1937

3

40

183

.337

1.105

30.16

Jimmie

Foxx

1937

4

36

127

.285

.929

27.01

Dolph

Camilli

1937

5

27

80

.339

1.034

24.92

 

              Jimmie Foxx in ’38 hit 50 homers and drove in 175 runs:

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Jimmie

Foxx

1938

1

50

175

.349

1.166

30.92

Hank

Greenberg

1938

2

58

146

.315

1.122

30.86

Johnny

Mize

1938

3

27

102

.337

1.036

30.74

Dolph

Camilli

1938

4

24

100

.251

.879

26.00

Hal

Trosky

1938

5

19

110

.334

.948

25.08

 

 

38.  Summarizing the Greatest First Basemen from 1900 to 1938

              Lou Gehrig was clearly the greatest first baseman of this era.   The chart below has Hall of Famers highlighted in blue and bold face, as we have done before. The totals for Beckley, Tenney, and Hickman include seasons before 1900.   Mize, Greenberg, and Frank McCormick were still in mid-career in 1938, so we left them out of the chart below, but included Foxx’s values post-1938 because he was nearer the end of his career:

 

Rank

First

Last

1

2

3

4

5

YOPDI

From

To

1

Lou

Gehrig

11

1

0

0

0

117

1923

1939

2

Jimmie

Foxx

2

9

1

1

1

90

1925

1945

3

George

Sisler

6

1

0

0

0

67

1915

1930

4

Frank

Chance

6

0

0

1

0

62

1898

1914

5

Harry

Davis

0

7

0

0

1

50

1895

1917

6

Hal

Chase

3

1

2

0

3

48

1905

1919

7

Jack

Fournier

3

2

0

0

1

45

1912

1927

8

Jim

Bottomley

0

4

1

0

2

34

1922

1937

9

Ed

Konetchy

1

2

1

1

1

31

1907

1921

10

Bill

Terry

0

0

6

2

0

28

1923

1936

11

Wally

Pipp

0

1

4

2

0

27

1913

1928

12

George

Kelly

0

2

1

2

0

22

1915

1932

13

Joe

Judge

0

2

0

1

3

19

1915

1934

13

Fred

Merkle

1

0

0

4

1

19

1907

1926

15

Stuffy

McInnis

1

1

0

0

1

18

1909

1927

16

Dots

Miller

0

1

2

0

1

16

1909

1921

16

Jake

Stahl

1

0

1

0

1

15

1903

1913

18

Doc

Hoblitzell

0

1

1

1

1

14

1908

1918

19

Fred

Tenney

4

0

1

1

0

12

1894

1911

20

Vic

Saier

0

1

1

0

0

11

1911

1919

21

Jake

Beckley

0

2

4

1

3

10

1888

1907

21

Jake

Daubert

0

0

1

2

2

10

1910

1924

21

Charlie

Hickman

0

0

2

1

1

10

1897

1908

 

              Charlie Hickman is the player identified in some old Encyclopedias as "Piano Legs" Hickman.   As was true in the other groups, the YOPDI score matches up very well with Hall of Fame selection, but in this group the Hall of Fame line is drawn more at 60 points than at 80.  In the hit-or-miss group. . .well, in the "hit" portion of the hit-or-miss group we have four players:  Jim Bottomley, Bill Terry, Jack Beckley and George Kelly. 

              One can certainly make an argument, with regard to Bill Terry and perhaps to Bottomley, that this method is not fair to them because they happened to be competing in an exceptional group of players.   Bill Terry is being compared head to head to Lou Gehrig and Jimmie Foxx and Hank Greenberg.  It is hardly an ordinary collection of first basemen.   It’s an extraordinary case. 

              OK, not arguing the point.  Bottomley’s best seasons are mostly before Gehrig and Foxx, so it is harder to make that case for him.  If I was selecting a new Hall of Fame, I certainly could do without Bottomley, and possibly without Bill Terry as well, although Terry was an exceptionally good player. 

              Beckley was not a truly dominant player, but he has a different argument; he was very good for a long period of time.  He got almost to 3,000 career hits.   It’s a different case.   And George Kelly. . .well, as I have said before, I just think his was an absurd selection.   George Kelly was not anywhere near being a Hall of Fame player, and he does not belong in the Hall of Fame.

              There is actually a flaw on this list, which I will acknowledge now and deal with at more length later, which is that "Boots" Grantham was excluded from the list, since I had him marked as a career second baseman.   He actually should be on the list above. . .will explain later. 

              In terms of peak value, these are the highest Peak Values among first basemen from 1900 to 1938:

Rank

First

Last

YEAR

Peak

 

Rank

First

Last

YEAR

Peak

1

Lou

Gehrig

1928

39.38

 

26

Ray

Grimes

1922

23.37

2

Jimmie

Foxx

1933

37.62

 

27

Jake

Stahl

1909

23.28

3

Frank

Chance

1906

32.69

 

28

Del

Bissonette

1928

23.11

4

Johnny

Mize

1937

31.26

 

29

Vic

Saier

1914

22.98

5

Hank

Greenberg

1938

30.86

 

30

Dots

Miller

1913

22.97

6

George

Sisler

1920

30.34

 

31

Fred

Tenney

1902

22.67

7

Bill

Terry

1932

29.95

 

32

Wally

Pipp

1916

22.18

8

Jack

Fournier

1924

29.44

 

33

Dan

McGann

1905

22.00

9

Harry

Davis

1906

28.79

 

34

Joe

Judge

1920

21.99

10

Jim

Bottomley

1928

26.36

 

35

Fred

Luderus

1913

21.43

11

Dolph

Camilli

1938

26.00

 

36

Earl

Sheely

1924

21.11

12

Hal

Chase

1915

25.72

 

37

Gus

Suhr

1936

20.88

13

Ed

Konetchy

1910

25.64

 

38

Lew

Fonseca

1929

20.81

14

Ripper

Collins

1934

25.25

 

39

Joe

Hauser

1924

20.78

15

Hal

Trosky

1938

25.08

 

40

Jake

Beckley

1900

20.73

16

Fred

Merkle

1912

25.04

 

41

Joe

Harris

1923

20.66

17

Stuffy

McInnis

1912

24.67

 

42

Joe

Kuhel

1933

20.64

18

Zeke

Bonura

1936

24.31

 

43

Chick

Gandil

1913

20.55

19

Charlie

Hickman

1903

23.97

 

44

Tim

Jordan

1906

20.39

20

Eddie

Morgan

1930

23.86

 

45

George H.

Burns

1918

20.31

21

Doc

Hoblitzell

1911

23.85

 

46

Jim

Nealon

1906

20.24

22

George

Kelly

1924

23.84

 

47

Kitty

Bransfield

1908

20.24

23

Jake

Daubert

1915

23.79

 

48

John

Anderson

1905

20.22

24

Babe

Borton

1915

23.49

 

49

Jiggs

Donahue

1905

20.00

25

Dale

Alexander

1929

23.47

 

50

Claude

Rossman

1908

20.00

 

              In this group, an automatic Hall of Fame selection requires a Peak Value of around 30.   Below that, Hall of Fame selection is a matter of either luck, or of having something else to tilt the vote in your direction. 

39.  The Mize-Musial-Hodges-Musial Era (1939-1958)

              Basically, from 1938 to 1958, the #1 first baseman in baseball is either Johnny Mize, Stan Musial or Gil Hodges.    The count actually is seven years as #1 for Musial, five years for Mize, four for Hodges, and one each for Phil Cavaretta and Augie Galan (during World War II), and one each for Mickey Vernon and Ted Kluszewski.   Musial switches between the outfield and first base.   When he is in the outfield he ranks first at his outfield spot, or maybe second behind Ted Williams; when he is at first base he ranks first at first.   

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Johnny

Mize

1939

1

28

108

.349

1.070

32.12

Jimmie

Foxx

1939

2

35

105

.360

1.158

30.29

Hank

Greenberg

1939

3

33

112

.312

1.042

27.68

Dolph

Camilli

1939

4

26

104

.290

.933

27.21

Hal

Trosky

1939

5

25

104

.335

.994

25.27

 

             

 

Johnny

Mize

1940

1

43

137

.314

1.039

31.94

Dolph

Camilli

1940

2

23

96

.287

.926

27.08

Jimmie

Foxx

1940

3

36

119

.297

.993

25.15

Hal

Trosky

1940

4

25

93

.295

.920

24.60

Frank

McCormick

1940

5

19

127

.309

.850

24.01

 

             

 

Johnny

Mize

1941

1

16

100

.317

.941

30.58

Dolph

Camilli

1941

2

34

120

.285

.962

27.66

Elbie

Fletcher

1941

3

11

74

.288

.878

22.20

Frank

McCormick

1941

4

17

97

.269

.740

21.24

Jimmie

Foxx

1941

5

19

105

.300

.917

19.81

 

             

 

Johnny

Mize

1942

1

26

110

.305

.901

31.54

Dolph

Camilli

1942

2

26

109

.252

.843

25.27

Elbie

Fletcher

1942

3

7

57

.289

.810

21.58

Frank

McCormick

1942

4

13

89

.277

.721

20.29

Mickey

Vernon

1942

5

9

86

.271

.725

20.21

 

             

 

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Mickey

Vernon

1943

1

7

70

.268

.744

22.46

Nick

Etten

1943

2

14

107

.271

.775

22.07

Rudy

York

1943

3

34

118

.271

.893

21.92

Frank

McCormick

1943

4

8

59

.303

.758

21.41

Elbie

Fletcher

1943

5

9

70

.283

.791

20.74

 

             

 

Phil

Cavarretta

1944

1

5

82

.321

.841

24.68

Frank

McCormick

1944

2

20

102

.305

.853

23.96

Nick

Etten

1944

3

22

91

.293

.865

22.78

Ray

Sanders

1944

4

12

102

.295

.812

21.85

Rudy

York

1944

5

18

98

.276

.792

21.34

 

             

 

Augie

Galan

1945

1

9

92

.307

.864

28.92

Phil

Cavarretta

1945

2

6

97

.355

.949

27.79

Nick

Etten

1945

3

18

111

.285

.824

21.11

Ray

Sanders

1945

4

8

78

.276

.760

19.57

Frank

McCormick

1945

5

10

81

.276

.729

19.16

 

             

 

Stan

Musial

1946

1

16

103

.365

1.021

39.69

Johnny

Mize

1946

2

22

70

.337

1.013

29.65

Hank

Greenberg

1946

3

44

127

.277

.977

27.62

Mickey

Vernon

1946

4

8

85

.353

.910

25.17

Johnny

Hopp

1946

5

3

48

.333

.827

20.90

 

             

 

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Stan

Musial

1947

1

19

95

.312

.902

34.27

Johnny

Mize

1947

2

51

138

.302

.998

29.65

Jackie

Robinson

1947

3

12

48

.297

.810

20.79

George

McQuinn

1947

4

13

80

.304

.832

20.37

Roy

Cullenbine

1947

5

24

78

.224

.823

18.00

 

             

 

Johnny

Mize

1948

1

40

125

.289

.959

26.69

Ferris

Fain

1948

2

7

88

.281

.808

18.51

Eddie

Waitkus

1948

3

7

44

.295

.764

16.06

Earl

Torgeson

1948

4

10

67

.253

.770

15.66

Eddie

Robinson

1948

5

16

83

.254

.715

15.28

 

             

 

Gil

Hodges

1949

1

23

115

.285

.813

19.34

Ferris

Fain

1949

2

3

78

.263

.754

19.17

Johnny

Mize

1949

3

19

64

.263

.794

18.75

Eddie

Robinson

1949

4

18

78

.294

.840

18.14

Mickey

Vernon

1949

5

18

83

.291

.801

17.05

 

             

 

Stan

Musial

1950

1

28

109

.346

1.034

36.53

Earl

Torgeson

1950

2

23

87

.290

.885

26.29

Walt

Dropo

1950

3

34

144

.322

.961

22.69

Gil

Hodges

1950

4

32

113

.283

.875

22.10

Eddie

Robinson

1950

5

21

86

.295

.846

19.75

 

             

 

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Gil

Hodges

1951

1

40

103

.268

.901

24.18

Eddie

Robinson

1951

2

29

117

.282

.866

21.69

Earl

Torgeson

1951

3

24

92

.263

.812

19.88

Mickey

Vernon

1951

4

9

87

.293

.781

19.51

Ferris

Fain

1951

5

6

57

.344

.921

19.45

 

             

 

Gil

Hodges

1952

1

32

102

.254

.886

24.83

Ted

Kluszewski

1952

2

16

86

.320

.892

22.70

Eddie

Robinson

1952

3

22

104

.296

.848

21.38

Mickey

Vernon

1952

4

10

80

.251

.746

21.32

Ferris

Fain

1952

5

2

59

.327

.867

19.63

 

             

 

Gil

Hodges

1953

1

31

122

.302

.943

25.61

Mickey

Vernon

1953

2

15

115

.337

.921

25.33

Ted

Kluszewski

1953

3

40

108

.316

.950

25.05

Dee

Fondy

1953

4

18

78

.309

.835

17.82

Joe

Adcock

1953

5

18

80

.285

.787

17.43

 

             

 

Ted

Kluszewski

1954

1

49

141

.326

1.049

28.86

Gil

Hodges

1954

2

42

130

.304

.952

26.25

Mickey

Vernon

1954

3

20

97

.290

.850

23.67

Joe

Adcock

1954

4

23

87

.308

.885

19.66

Dee

Fondy

1954

5

9

49

.285

.725

16.91

 

             

 

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Stan

Musial

1955

1

33

108

.319

.974

29.20

Ted

Kluszewski

1955

2

47

113

.314

.967

24.53

Gil

Hodges

1955

3

27

102

.289

.877

23.82

Vic

Power

1955

4

19

76

.319

.859

21.61

Mickey

Vernon

1955

5

14

85

.301

.835

20.82

 

             

 

Stan

Musial

1956

1

27

109

.310

.908

27.44

Gil

Hodges

1956

2

32

87

.265

.861

22.39

Ted

Kluszewski

1956

3

35

102

.302

.898

20.03

Joe

Adcock

1956

4

38

103

.291

.934

19.84

Vic

Wertz

1956

5

32

106

.264

.874

19.82

 

             

 

Stan

Musial

1957

1

29

102

.351

1.034

27.43

Gil

Hodges

1957

2

27

98

.299

.877

21.93

Vic

Wertz

1957

3

28

105

.282

.857

21.19

Ed

Bouchee

1957

4

17

76

.293

.864

19.64

Dale

Long

1957

5

21

67

.298

.875

18.55

 

             

 

Stan

Musial

1958

1

17

62

.337

.950

21.79

Orlando

Cepeda

1958

2

25

96

.312

.854

18.86

Vic

Power

1958

3

16

80

.312

.822

18.72

Gil

Hodges

1958

4

22

64

.259

.764

17.92

Joe

Cunningham

1958

5

12

57

.312

.945

17.85

 

              In 1958 no major league first baseman drove in 100 runs—the first time that had happened since 1919. 

40.  The Cardinal First Basemen

              The St. Louis Cardinals won 106 games in 1942, 105 games in 1943, 105 in 1944, 95 in 1945, 98 in 1946, 89 in 1947, 85 in 1948 and 96 in 1949.   The Cardinals won almost 100 games a year through the 1940s, but I left out a phrase there.   The Cardinals won almost 100 games a year despite having given away the best baseman in baseball.   Johnny Mize was the best first baseman in baseball through most of that period, when he wasn’t in the Army.  Mize was the best first baseman in baseball in 1939-1941, but after the 1941 season the Cardinals traded him to the Giants for $50,000 and three players, none of whom was really very good.   Had they not done that, the Cardinals of the 1940s might have been the greatest team of all time.

              The Cardinal farm system in that era was, of course, phenomenally productive, probably the greatest farm system ever.    They thought they could replace Mize with another first baseman just as good, and they could, bringing up Stan Musial in 1943, but since Musial could play the outfield just as well, it begs the question of how many pennants the Cardinals might have won if they had had both Musial AND Mize, which they could have had. 

              From 1921 to 1970, a span of a half-century, the Cardinals had one of the best first basemen in baseball almost every year, although sometimes they had the great first baseman playing left field and some other weenie playing first.   The Cardinals had Jacques Fournier at first base in 1921-22; these are not his best seasons but he does rank among the better first basemen.   They Cardinals had Jim Bottomley at first in 1923, 1925, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929 and 1930; he ranks in the top five in all of those seasons, and ranks second in several of them.   They replaced Bottomley with Ripper Collins in mid-season, 1931; Collilns ranks in the top five in 1933, 1934, 1935 and 1936.   Johnny Mize came up in 1936 and immediately makes the top five, so in 1936 the Cardinals actually have TWO of the top five first baseman, Mize and Collins.  They will again in 1958.

              Mize ranks second in 1937, third in 1938, and passes Jimmie Foxx to become the best first baseman in baseball as soon as Gehrig is gone.   Mize remains the best first baseman in baseball in 1940 and 1941, is traded to New York for pretty much nothing, and is replaced by Johnny Hopp in 1943.   Hopp doesn’t have quite enough pop, but he is replaced by Ray Sanders, who hits .295 with 102 RBI in 1944, ranking as the #4 first baseman in baseball in 1944 and 1945.   Sanders is replaced by Stan Musial, who ranks as the best first baseman in baseball in 1946, 1947, 1950, 1955, 1956, 1957 and 1958.  In 1958, again, they have two of the best first baseman in baseball, in Musial and Joe Cunningham.   The Cardinals in 1959 have a lousy team, but they have three tremendous left fielder/first basemen:  Musial, Bill White and Joe Cunningham.   White comes into the infield and ranks among the best first basemen in 1963, 1964 and 1965.  

              In the late 1950s the Cardinals were a mess, couldn’t figure out what they wanted to do with their talent, but Joe Cunningham hit .318 in 1957, .312 in 1958 and .345 in 1959, with huge numbers of walks giving him on base percentages consistently near .450.   The Cardinals had Musial and White, both left fielder/first basemen, so they couldn’t figure out what to do with Cunningham, and eventually they gave him away, too. 

              After Bill White lost a step the Cardinals traded him to Philadelphia and brought in Orlando Cepeda.  Cepeda won a Most Valuable Player Award for them in 1967, and rates among the top first basemen in baseball in 1967 and 1968.   In spring training, 1969, they traded Cepeda for Joe Torre; Torre drove in 101 runs and was among the best first basemen in baseball in 1969.   After that season they traded for Dick Allen and put Allen at first base, sending Torre back behind home plate and then later to third base; Allen ranked as the #3 first baseman in the majors in 1970.  So the Cardinals had a top-ranked first baseman from 1921 to 1970, in ten different men—Fournier, Bottomley, Collins, Mize, Sanders, Musial, Bill White, Orlando Cepeda, Joe Torre and Dick Allen, and we should also mention Joe Cunningham, who should have been a first baseman and who was a tremendous player although he never quite got the opportunity to shine. 

              In 1970 the Cardinals played Dick Allen half-time at first base and some at third base, although Allen’s defense at third was getting ugly by then, but they had a left-handed hitting rookie named Joe Hague, who had a very good minor league career and an excellent rookie season as an outfielder/first baseman.   After the 1970 season they traded Allen to the Dodgers and went with Hague at first base.  This should have worked out but didn’t.  Hague stopped hitting for some reason; his only good year was his rookie year, so that ended the 50-year streak.   Joe Torre moved back to first base, but wasn’t the same player anymore.   The Cardinals didn’t have another good first baseman until Keith Hernandez came along at the end of the 1970s. 

 

41.  Robinson and Allison, McCovey and Cepeda, Cash and Gentile

              In 1959, 1960 and 1964 the highest-ranking first basemen were drop-in first basemen, outfielders who were playing first base for a year for one reason or another.   When a team has awkward-fitting pieces, somebody always gets pushed to first base, because first base is where the "give" is; teams always figure if we can’t put you anywhere else we can put you at first base.   The Reds in the late 1950s had outfielders coming out of their ears; they had Gus Bell, Wally Post, Frank Robinson, Curt Flood and Vada Pinson—all good players.   They traded Flood to St. Louis and moved Frank Robinson to first base for two years.   It didn’t exactly work.   Eventually they got a real first baseman, Gordy Coleman, platooned Post and Bell, put Pinson in center and Frank Robinson in right, and won the pennant (1961).

              The Minnesota Twins had a similar problem; they had outfielders coming out of their ass.  Bob Allison was a tremendous player, a 30-homer, 100-walk kind of player who was also a good baserunner and a good outfielder.  In 1963 Jimmie Hall, as a rookie center fielder, hit 33 home runs, and then the next year they had Tony Oliva, who hit .323 as a rookie with 43 doubles and 32 homers.   That’s three outfielders, and then they had Harmon Killebrew, who couldn’t exactly play first base but couldn’t exactly play anywhere else, either, but who had to be in the lineup because he could hit 48 homers every year, and then they had Don Mincher, too; he was a tremendous talent who never got an honest shot at playing time because of all of these other guys.   In the mix of all of this Bob Allison wound up playing mostly first base in 1964 and rates as the #1 first baseman of 1964 although he wasn’t really a first baseman.

              San Francisco came up with two Hall of Fame first basemen at the same time, Orlando Cepeda and Willie McCovey; one of them had to play the outfield and neither one of them could, so that was a problem.   They also had way more outfielders than they could use—Willie Mays, three Alou brothers, Leon Wagner, Willie Kirkland, Jose Cardenal and others. 

              Norm Cash and Jim Gentile both broke into the lineup in mid-season, 1960, and played very well in 1960, then had monster years in 1961, Cash hitting .361 with 41 homers, 132 RBI and Gentile hitting .302 with 46 and 141.   I have Cash rated as the number one first baseman of 1961 and second in 1962.  What anyone from my generation will remember is that after his monster season in 1961 he had a horrible year in 1962, dropping 118 points in batting average from .361 to .243.  

              But here’s what people at the time didn’t understand, but we would now.   If you focus on his three true outcomes, Cash in 1962 was the same player he was in 1961—almost exactly the same player, to an unusual extent.   In 1961 he had 672 plate appearances, 124 walks, 85 strikeouts, 41 homers.   In 1962 he had almost exactly the same ratios—629 plate appearances, 104 walks, 82 strikeouts, 39 homers.  The only thing that REALLY happened to him between those two seasons was that he hit in phenomenally good luck in 1961, and phenomenally bad luck in 1962.   A baseball fan now would understand that, but in 1962 the whole concept of a player hitting .361 one year and .243 the next when his underlying skills were the same would have seemed bizarre. 

              Anyway, my point is that there is really no #1 first baseman in this era, although there are mountains of talent there with Cepeda, McCovey, Cash, Gentile, Frank Robinson, Harmon Killebrew, Bob Allison and Don Mincher.    There’s tremendous talent at the position, but no #1.   Probably it would be more accurate to describe this as the Orlando Cepeda era than to ascribe it to any other one player. 

 

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Frank

Robinson

1959

1

36

125

.311

.975

25.42

Orlando

Cepeda

1959

2

27

105

.317

.878

22.83

Roy

Sievers

1959

3

21

49

.242

.788

20.49

Joe

Adcock

1959

4

25

76

.292

.874

18.65

Dick

Stuart

1959

5

27

78

.297

.911

18.09

 

             

 

Frank

Robinson

1960

1

31

83

.297

1.002

27.22

Roy

Sievers

1960

2

28

93

.295

.930

22.25

Norm

Cash

1960

3

18

63

.286

.903

20.78

Jim

Gentile

1960

4

21

98

.292

.903

20.72

Bill

Skowron

1960

5

26

91

.309

.881

20.36

 

             

 

Norm

Cash

1961

1

41

132

.361

1.148

33.79

Orlando

Cepeda

1961

2

46

142

.311

.970

28.32

Jim

Gentile

1961

3

46

141

.302

1.069

26.90

Norm

Siebern

1961

4

18

98

.296

.859

22.87

Dick

Stuart

1961

5

35

117

.301

.925

22.40

Roy

Sievers

1961

6

27

92

.295

.913

21.94

 

             

 

Orlando

Cepeda

1962

1

35

114

.306

.865

27.37

Norm

Cash

1962

2

39

89

.243

.894

26.44

Norm

Siebern

1962

3

25

117

.308

.907

24.18

Jim

Gentile

1962

4

33

87

.251

.821

22.72

Bill

White

1962

5

20

102

.324

.868

22.16

Ron

Fairly

1962

6

14

71

.278

.811

20.04

 

             

 

Orlando

Cepeda

1963

1

34

97

.316

.929

27.17

Norm

Cash

1963

2

26

79

.270

.856

25.03

Bill

White

1963

3

27

109

.304

.851

24.88

Dick

Stuart

1963

4

42

118

.261

.833

23.51

Ron

Fairly

1963

5

12

77

.271

.735

21.21

Jim

Gentile

1963

6

24

72

.248

.782

20.81

 

             

 

Bob

Allison

1964

1

32

86

.287

.957

26.66

Bill

White

1964

2

21

102

.303

.829

25.30

Orlando

Cepeda

1964

3

31

97

.304

.900

22.96

Norm

Cash

1964

4

23

83

.257

.804

22.16

Dick

Stuart

1964

5

33

114

.279

.811

21.90

Ron

Fairly

1964

6

10

74

.256

.734

20.37

 

42.  The Willie McCovey Era (1965-1971)

              Based on 1965 performance alone, Willie McCovey would rank as the #1 first baseman in baseball, although he doesn’t make the top of the list because he had a poor year in 1964 which is weighted into his moving average.  For several years after 1965 he was the best first baseman in the game, winning an MVP Award over stiff competition in 1969; a recent study showed that the 1969 NL MVP candidates were the strongest collection ever.   McCovey’s 1.108 OPS in 1969 was the highest in the majors in eight years. 

 

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Harmon

Killebrew

1965

1

25

75

.269

.885

28.11

Willie

McCovey

1965

2

39

92

.276

.920

27.42

Norm

Cash

1965

3

30

82

.266

.883

24.38

Felipe

Alou

1965

4

23

78

.297

.819

23.71

Bill

White

1965

5

24

73

.289

.845

23.41

Boog

Powell

1965

6

17

72

.248

.754

22.67

 

             

 

Willie

McCovey

1966

1

36

96

.295

.977

31.06

Felipe

Alou

1966

2

31

74

.327

.894

26.30

Norm

Cash

1966

3

32

93

.279

.829

24.82

Boog

Powell

1966

4

34

109

.287

.903

23.93

Donn

Clendenon

1966

5

28

98

.299

.878

22.42

Bill

White

1966

6

22

103

.276

.803

21.77

 

             

 

Harmon

Killebrew

1967

1

44

113

.269

.965

32.63

Willie

McCovey

1967

2

31

91

.276

.913

30.94

Orlando

Cepeda

1967

3

25

111

.325

.923

27.41

Mickey

Mantle

1967

4

22

55

.245

.825

24.01

Don

Mincher

1967

5

25

76

.273

.854

23.19

Felipe

Alou

1967

6

15

43

.274

.726

22.86

 

             

 

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Willie

McCovey

1968

1

36

105

.293

.923

34.83

Harmon

Killebrew

1968

2

17

40

.210

.782

26.03

Boog

Powell

1968

3

22

85

.249

.748

22.98

Norm

Cash

1968

4

25

63

.263

.816

21.40

Mickey

Mantle

1968

5

18

54

.237

.782

21.33

Orlando

Cepeda

1968

6

16

73

.248

.685

21.24

 

             

 

Willie

McCovey

1969

1

45

126

.320

1.108

36.06

Dick

Allen

1969

2

32

89

.288

.949

28.54

Rusty

Staub

1969

3

29

79

.302

.952

27.47

Boog

Powell

1969

4

37

121

.304

.942

25.88

Joe

Torre

1969

5

18

101

.289

.808

23.99

Lee

May

1969

6

38

110

.278

.860

23.87

Norm

Cash

1969

7

22

74

.280

.831

21.67

Orlando

Cepeda

1969

8

22

88

.257

.753

20.28

 

             

 

Willie

McCovey

1970

1

39

126

.289

1.056

31.68

Carl

Yastrzemski

1970

2

40

102

.329

1.044

31.29

Boog

Powell

1970

3

35

114

.297

.962

27.74

Dick

Allen

1970

4

34

101

.279

.937

26.78

Jim

Hickman

1970

5

32

115

.315

1.001

24.37

Wes

Parker

1970

6

10

111

.319

.850

23.51

Lee

May

1970

7

34

94

.253

.782

23.33

Nate

Colbert

1970

8

38

86

.259

.836

20.96

 

             

 

Hank

Aaron

1971

1

47

118

.327

1.079

31.49

Lee

May

1971

2

39

98

.278

.864

25.08

Harmon

Killebrew

1971

3

28

119

.254

.850

24.34

Willie

McCovey

1971

4

18

70

.277

.876

23.20

Boog

Powell

1971

5

22

92

.256

.839

23.08

Nate

Colbert

1971

6

27

84

.264

.801

22.98

Frank

Howard

1971

7

26

83

.279

.840

22.92

Norm

Cash

1971

8

32

91

.283

.903

22.83

 

 

42. Dick Allen was great, and in the other years, somebody has to rank first.

              In 1972 Dick Allen had a phenomenal season with the White Sox, winning the American League’s Most Valuable Player Award, and ranking first at the position.  In 1973 Tony Perez ranks first because somebody has to; he was pretty good every year although I don’t know that he was ever actually great.  In 1974 Gene Tenace ranks first despite a .211 batting average.   Tenace has miscellaneous assets—110 walks, 29 homers, the A’s played in a pitcher’s park, and Tenace caught 79 games, so he was contributing more on defense than the other players rated at first base.   In 1975 John Mayberry was second in the AL MVP voting, having his third and final 100-RBI season at the age of 26:

 

First

Last

YEAR

Rank

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Value

Dick

Allen

1972

1

37

113

.308

1.023

34.33

Willie

Stargell

1972

2

33

112

.293

.930

30.90

Tony

Perez

1972

3

21

90

.283

.846

27.53

Hank

Aaron

1972

4

34

77

.265

.904

25.32

Lee

May

1972

5

29

98

.284

.833

24.88

Nate

Colbert

1972

6

38

111

.250

.841

24.11

John

Mayberry

1972

7

25

100

.298

.900

23.75

George

Scott

1972

8

20

88

.266

.746

22.01

 

             

 

Tony

Perez

1973

1

27

101

.314

.919

28.17

John

Mayberry

1973

2

26

100

.278

.895

27.37

Dick

Allen

1973

3

16

41

.316

1.006

25.30

George

Scott

1973

4

24

107

.306

.858

24.02

Carl

Yastrzemski

1973

5

19

95

.296

.870

23.80

Gene

Tenace

1973

6

24

84

.259

.830

23.14

Lee

May

1973

7

28

105

.270

.789

22.28

Willie

McCovey

1973

8

29

75

.266

.966

22.20

 

             

 

Gene

Tenace

1974

1

26

73

.211

.778

24.05

Steve

Garvey

1974

2

21

111

.312

.811

23.63

Dick

Allen

1974

3

32

88

.301

.938

23.57

Carl

Yastrzemski

1974

4

15

79

.301

.859

23.52

Willie

McCovey

1974

5

22

63

.253

.922

23.05

John

Mayberry

1974

6

22

69

.234

.782

22.82

Tony

Perez

1974

7

28

101

.265

.791

22.80

George

Scott

1974

8

17

82

.281

.777

22.48

 

             

 

John

Mayberry

1975

1

34

106

.291

.963

25.97

Willie

Stargell

1975

2

22

90

.295

.891

25.94

Steve

Garvey

1975

3

18

95

.319

.827

24.46

Bob

Watson

1975

4

18

85

.324

.870

23.91

George

Scott

1975

5

36

109

.285

.857

23.51

Carl

Yastrzemski

1975

6

14

60

.269

.776

21.83

Joe

Rudi

1975

7

21

75

.278

.831

21.06

Tony

Perez

1975

8

20

109

.282

.816

20.85

 

 
 

COMMENTS (22 Comments, most recent shown first)

price499
As Bill mentioned the Cardinals’ long term strength at first base, if I could add a column to the stat lines, it would be to add the team name of the player season by season. It may demonstrate player improvements/declines and show team moves and strengths year to year. I remember many—oddly it may seem, it’s the most recent years where I lose track.
4:08 AM Dec 25th
 
MarisFan61
Brock: Well taken -- but I wonder, wouldn't Bill appreciate the word being spread about anywhere that puts forth decent stuff with Win Shares?
(Assuming it's decent!)

Good job being cautious about it. But if Bill sees this and wants to say....
8:44 PM Dec 22nd
 
Brock Hanke
Marisfan - Thanks for letting me know I wasn't posting something up twice. As for your question, I have no idea whatsoever what this site's policy on mentioning other sabermetrics sites might be. So, I'm not going to open that can of worms unless asked to do so by this site.
4:35 PM Dec 22nd
 
MarisFan61
(Brock: I see that I missed part of what you said -- you did mention where you got the breakdowns.
Can you say where that is?)
2:44 PM Dec 22nd
 
MarisFan61
Brock -- Thanks for that!
How did you get those period-breakdowns for the 'letter grades'? Are they your own translations of data, or are they indicated somewhere by Bill?

BTW, after I did that earlier post, I looked at where Bill ranked him and what he said about him in the New Historical Abstract (2000) -- and in there, he doesn't indicate anything about such a period breakdown; he only says that the Win Share system doesn't show Sisler as a real good defensive 1B. (It's part of his talking about how Sisler 'might be the most overrated player of all time' - I'm doing 'single quotes' rather than regular because it's not necessarily an exact quote.)
2:25 PM Dec 22nd
 
Brock Hanke
marisfan - Sisler's C- glove grade is caused by his mid-career whatever that affected his eyesight. I found a site that actually listed the defensive Win Shares for everybody for every year. Through 1922, Sisler has an A grade, which was his reputation. But, after 1923, when he came back with double vision, his defensive grade is a flat F. You average A with F, and C- is about what you'll get. The Sisler that old old fans remembered is the one through 1922.
2:16 PM Dec 22nd
 
MarisFan61
I think a great little example highlighting the difficulty of measuring defense of 1B's, including the difficulty of just knowing how much to count defense, is the relative showings here of Dick Stuart and Vic Power, who are about as close to a yin and yang as you can get.
They show similarly on the lists; Power just a little less well but the thing is, he doesn't make the lists at all in the years that Stuart does (really, not at all after Stuart came up, not counting his first half-season).

Who would you rather have on your team?
For me it's an easy call in favor of Vic Power, and I would have felt like saying Stuart is a guy you'll never win a championship with if he's at 1B, except that Pittsburgh did.

Looking at their hitting numbers for the years that they both played and taking account of what we think we know about their fielding, I have trouble imagining that Stuart was a better player to have as your regular 1B, and I'm inclined to think that any method that shows he was isn't taking enough account of fielding. I'm skeptical that any analytic method could resolve it -- I think that our pick of either Stuart or Power is mostly a reflection of our 'philosophy' about the game (and about metrics).

BTW part of where I'm coming from is that I think metric systems tend to overrate hitters like Stuart and underrate ones like Vic Power, but I'd say basically all the same even if we assume those valuations to be right.
2:08 PM Dec 22nd
 
MarisFan61
BTW, why I didn't do any Hodges thing (besides trying sometimes not to beat dead horses beyond a point) :-)
It's been well known among us that Hodges was the standout from that time in terms of "year-in-year-out" among first baseman, but that it's mainly because it was a time when the other top 1B's just weren't year-in-year-out. So, his basic 'greatness' depends a lot on how much weight we put on being 'best' even if there isn't much competition.
And, in line with that, his raw numbers (i.e. the "value" data above) aren't real high.
1:36 PM Dec 22nd
 
raincheck
I was a committed Dodger fan, but I was in awe of McCovey. He seemed so dangerous late in close games. I know clutch hitting doesn't exist, but it seemed like he beat the Dodgers with a late hit a dozen times a year. He was so big and so cool and so dangerous. My favorite player was a freaking Giant.​
12:58 PM Dec 22nd
 
MarisFan61
HA -- Bill, you beat me by 1 minute.
And I typed the long-long post with nary a thought about Gil. :-)
12:14 PM Dec 22nd
 
MarisFan61
One of the great things about these articles is that we get mini-semi-bio's of players who rarely get them.

About Fournier: I'm also interested in what Bill might have meant by that. I wouldn't be able to think of any other reason than what's been said here.

So interesting to see how he ranks on this year-by-year, and (to me) especially on how he shows on those cumulative period charts. Putting it together, I think we can say:
-- If he were in the Hall of Fame, it would have been a reasonable pick. Put it this way: He'd be at least in the Chick Hafey category, probably a little higher.
-- But it's OK also that he's not in: He's below the clear Hall of Famers and in the clump of borderlines -- toward the top of them and ahead of some guys who are in, but not within the top group.

About his fielding:
A thing I often look at for a clue on those old timers (actually newer timers too) but which it seems few others do, even Bill himself (probably because it's ~2 decades old) is Bill's "letter grades" on fielding in the Win Shares book.
For what it's worth:
Fournier is at C-minus.
Gandil is B+.
George Kelly A-minus
Bottomley C+

Sisler, to my surprise, is also just C-minus.
And Frank Chance just B.

First base is just hard to measure, and of course harder as we go further back. I had thought Sisler was a very good fielder -- is that not his rep?

And, I'd guess 1B was a much more important defensive position back then. I'd guess that in general it's a characteristic of higher- and lower-level leagues that the lower the level, the bigger difference a first baseman can make. I don't want to infer too much from my slow-pitch softball games :-) but in our games, one of the biggest factors is who's on first.
I don't mean that I think putting Gandil on first instead of Fournier is what gave them the pennant, just that in theory it's very plausible that a good rather than bad first baseman could well have made such a difference.

12:13 PM Dec 22nd
 
bjames
Very surprised that Marisfan has not weighed in triumphantly over the strong showing of Gil Hodges in these rankings. . . .
12:12 PM Dec 22nd
 
bjames
Now that I think about it, I think that Fournier signed Roy Sievers for the St. Louis Browns.. .pretty sure that he did.
11:46 AM Dec 22nd
 
Gfletch
Pretty sure it means that he was a chimney sweep sparrow with guise
7:54 PM Dec 21st
 
JohnPontoon
I was also confused about the Fournier comment. "He was usually seen around town with some smokescreen, an actress or a model[...]" It certainly seemed to me to imply that Fournier was gay; at the same time, I rather doubted that that was Bill's intended meaning. I think that maybe "arm candy" would have been a better piece of idiom? Or WAS he gay? Do I even deserve an explanation?
7:27 PM Dec 21st
 
bhalbleib
Given the early 20th century's penchant for great nicknames for baseball players, the fact that Fournier was not nicknamed "Pope" or even better "Benedict" saddens me to no end.
3:49 PM Dec 21st
 
Fireball Wenz
When Bill talks about Fournier running around with a "smokescreen" model or actress, does he mean what the kids today call a "smokeshow," or is he implying something else?
2:10 PM Dec 21st
 
BobGill
Small note about Fournier: As of 1946 I think he was a scout for some major league team, maybe the Browns. My dad and a good buddy of his were at an odd sort of tryout camp in January and February of that year, down in Florida, and remembered Fournier as one of many scouts on hand. At least one night he went to dinner with my dad and his buddy. Unfortunately, they were too young to remember Fournier as a player, so they didn't ask him about playing against Cobb, Speaker or Walter Johnson.
1:48 PM Dec 21st
 
rwarn17588
I looked up the SABR bio on Fournier, and it contained no explanation for his hitting slump in 1916.

But, as the bio pointed out, if you aren't hitting well and commit 22 errors at first base in just 85 games, your place in the lineup is going to be darned near untenable.
12:03 PM Dec 21st
 
78sman
It's too bad that Joe Hauser had so many knee injuries. The A's could have had an interesting line-up with Hauser at 1B and Foxx at 3B for many years along with Bishop, Cochrane, Simmons, etc.
11:20 AM Dec 21st
 
kseesar1
It's nice to see Stretch getting the recognition he deserves. When I was a kid growing up in the Bay Area we had a near-revolt when the Giants traded McCovey to San Diego so Dave Kingman could play first. Kingman hit lots of homers, played horrible defense everywhere, and alienated people with his delightful people skills. When McCovey came back in '77 he was one of the few things to cheer during those down years, but he was still Stretch, and the fans loved him. My favorite baseball player growing up, and always a class act.
10:55 AM Dec 21st
 
bbbilbo
I feel sorry for poor Jimmies Foxx.
6:36 AM Dec 21st
 
 
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