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70.   ‘S All Good

              From 1978 to 1983, while there was no one dominant player at the position, almost every major league team had a quality second baseman.   At least two of these players, Willie Randolph and Lou Whitaker, were of Hall of Fame or near-Hall of Fame quality.  Davey Lopes had an outstanding career.  Joe Morgan, while not the MVP-anytime-you-choose-to-focus-on-him player that he was from 1972 to 1976, was still an extremely effective player.   Phil Garner was a good player.  Paul Molitor and Bill Madlock, while we don’t remember them as second basemen, had good seasons while playing second base. 

              Frank White won eight Gold Gloves, had over 2,000 hits, twice hit 22 homers in a season, batted cleanup in the World Series for a World Championship team and was in double figures in stolen bases every season.  He barely makes any of the lists.  Manny Trillo was in the majors for 17 seasons, played in four All-Star games, won three Gold Gloves, hit .280 and better several times as a regular, had one of the best throwing arms I have ever seen at second base, and was the MVP of the National League Championship Series for a team that then won the World Series.   I’m not sure if he ever makes a list.

              Part of the problem for the long-time quality players like White and Trillo is that there were also several players who were really good for a period of two or three years and then vanished, like Bump Wills and Tony Bernazard.   Dommo Garcia was pretty good, and Johnny Ray was, and Tommie Herr, and Phil Garner.  

              Randolph and Whitaker and Grich may have been good enough to have been dominant players with lesser competition.   There was no dominant second baseman from 1960 to 1966, and there was no dominant second baseman from 1978 to 1983, but these eras are not the same.   In 1961 and 1964 no second baseman rates at 18.00—a number which would indicate a weak All Star.  In 1978 18.00 wouldn’t make the list of top second basemen; in several other years it would barely make the list. 

              Another point relating here is that the second basemen of this era are far better than the shortstops.   The second basemen are great; the shortstops are weak.   Probably related somehow. 

 

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

1978

1

Willie

Randolph

3

42

.279

.381

.357

24.55

1978

2

Bill

Madlock

15

44

.309

.378

.481

23.82

1978

3

Joe

Morgan

13

75

.236

.347

.385

23.36

1978

4

Davey

Lopes

17

58

.278

.355

.421

22.75

1978

5

Bobby

Grich

6

42

.251

.357

.329

22.49

1978

6

Phil

Garner

10

66

.261

.345

.400

20.20

1978

7

Bump

Wills

9

57

.250

.331

.347

18.26

1978

8

Jorge

Orta

13

53

.274

.340

.421

18.11

 

     

 

     

 

 

1979

1

Bobby

Grich

30

101

.294

.365

.537

24.98

1979

2

Willie

Randolph

5

61

.270

.374

.368

24.55

1979

3

Paul

Molitor

9

62

.322

.372

.469

22.90

1979

4

Davey

Lopes

28

73

.265

.372

.464

22.19

1979

5

Joe

Morgan

9

32

.250

.379

.376

21.41

1979

6

Phil

Garner

11

59

.293

.359

.441

19.43

1979

7

Lou

Whitaker

3

42

.286

.395

.378

18.36

1979

8

Bump

Wills

5

46

.273

.340

.350

17.99

 

     

 

     

 

 

1980

1

Willie

Randolph

7

46

.294

.427

.407

26.97

1980

2

Bobby

Grich

14

62

.271

.377

.408

23.17

1980

3

Joe

Morgan

11

49

.243

.367

.373

22.20

1980

4

Paul

Molitor

9

37

.304

.372

.438

21.96

1980

5

Bump

Wills

5

58

.263

.322

.360

18.05

1980

6

Phil

Garner

5

58

.259

.315

.358

17.26

1980

7

Davey

Lopes

10

49

.251

.321

.344

17.01

1980

8

Jorge

Orta

10

64

.291

.379

.403

16.84

 

     

 

     

 

 

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

1981

1

Bobby

Grich

22

61

.304

.378

.543

24.83

1981

2

Joe

Morgan

8

31

.240

.371

.377

21.72

1981

3

Willie

Randolph

2

24

.232

.336

.305

18.78

1981

4

Lou

Whitaker

5

36

.263

.340

.373

18.22

1981

5

Rich

Dauer

4

38

.263

.317

.369

15.15

1981

6

Phil

Garner

1

26

.248

.326

.310

14.49

1981

7

Julio

Cruz

2

24

.256

.332

.324

14.47

1981

8

Tony

Bernazard

6

34

.276

.367

.380

13.95

 

     

 

     

 

 

1982

1

Joe

Morgan

14

61

.289

.400

.438

26.25

1982

2

Bobby

Grich

19

65

.261

.371

.449

22.71

1982

3

Lou

Whitaker

15

65

.286

.341

.434

21.97

1982

4

Willie

Randolph

3

36

.280

.368

.349

20.19

1982

5

Tony

Bernazard

11

56

.256

.337

.396

17.54

1982

6

Damaso

Garcia

5

42

.310

.338

.399

17.48

1982

7

Phil

Garner

13

83

.274

.320

.423

17.48

1982

8

Johnny

Ray

7

63

.281

.318

.382

16.71

 

     

 

     

 

 

1983

1

Lou

Whitaker

12

72

.320

.380

.457

25.79

1983

2

Bobby

Grich

16

62

.292

.414

.460

22.41

1983

3

Ryne

Sandberg

8

48

.261

.316

.351

21.71

1983

4

Joe

Morgan

16

59

.230

.370

.403

20.66

1983

5

Willie

Randolph

2

38

.279

.361

.348

19.36

1983

6

Johnny

Ray

5

53

.283

.323

.399

18.32

1983

7

Tom

Herr

2

31

.323

.403

.412

18.24

1983

8

Damaso

Garcia

3

38

.307

.336

.390

17.64

 

              Joe Morgan is the dominant player at the position from 1969 to 1977—comparable to Lajoie, Collins, Hornsby or Gehringer—but also had off-peak seasons when he was the #1 man at the position four years BEFORE his peak (1965) and five years after (1982).  I don’t know of any other player who did that.  He ranked as the best second baseman in baseball for at least one season in the 60s, the 70s and the 80s. 

 

71.  The Sandberg Time

              From 1984 to 1992 the best second baseman in baseball was Ryne Sandberg.

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

1984

1

Ryne

Sandberg

19

84

.314

.367

.520

30.36

1984

2

Lou

Whitaker

13

56

.289

.357

.407

24.32

1984

3

Juan

Samuel

15

69

.272

.307

.442

22.18

1984

4

Tom

Herr

4

49

.276

.335

.346

21.49

1984

5

Willie

Randolph

2

31

.287

.377

.348

21.28

1984

6

Johnny

Ray

6

67

.312

.354

.434

20.06

1984

7

Bobby

Grich

18

58

.256

.357

.452

19.76

1984

8

Frank

White

17

56

.271

.311

.445

18.82

 

     

 

     

 

 

1985

1

Ryne

Sandberg

26

83

.305

.364

.504

27.68

1985

2

Tom

Herr

8

110

.302

.379

.416

24.77

1985

3

Lou

Whitaker

21

73

.279

.362

.456

23.86

1985

4

Juan

Samuel

19

74

.264

.303

.436

22.63

1985

5

Willie

Randolph

5

40

.276

.382

.356

21.34

1985

6

Bill

Doran

14

59

.287

.362

.434

19.49

1985

7

Johnny

Ray

7

70

.274

.325

.375

18.67

1985

8

Tony

Bernazard

11

59

.274

.361

.404

17.89

 

     

 

     

 

 

1986

1

Steve

Sax

6

56

.332

.390

.441

24.13

1986

2

Ryne

Sandberg

14

76

.284

.330

.411

23.89

1986

3

Juan

Samuel

16

78

.266

.302

.448

23.19

1986

4

Lou

Whitaker

20

73

.269

.338

.437

21.63

1986

5

Willie

Randolph

5

50

.276

.393

.346

20.69

1986

6

Tom

Herr

2

61

.252

.342

.331

20.01

1986

7

Johnny

Ray

7

78

.301

.363

.394

19.15

1986

8

Tony

Bernazard

17

73

.301

.362

.456

18.97

 

     

 

     

 

 

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

1987

1

Ryne

Sandberg

16

59

.294

.367

.442

23.08

1987

2

Juan

Samuel

28

100

.272

.335

.502

23.07

1987

3

Willie

Randolph

7

67

.305

.411

.414

22.30

1987

4

Lou

Whitaker

16

59

.265

.341

.427

21.98

1987

5

Steve

Sax

6

46

.280

.331

.369

21.33

1987

6

Bill

Doran

16

79

.283

.365

.406

19.01

1987

7

Johnny

Ray

5

69

.289

.334

.374

18.22

1987

8

Tom

Herr

2

83

.263

.346

.331

17.63

 

     

 

     

 

 

1988

1

Ryne

Sandberg

19

69

.264

.322

.419

24.32

1988

2

Lou

Whitaker

12

55

.275

.376

.419

23.21

1988

3

Julio

Franco

10

54

.303

.361

.409

23.14

1988

4

Steve

Sax

5

57

.277

.325

.343

22.50

1988

5

Johnny

Ray

6

83

.306

.345

.429

20.14

1988

6

Juan

Samuel

12

67

.243

.298

.380

19.64

1988

7

Roberto

Alomar

9

41

.266

.328

.382

19.50

1988

8

Willie

Randolph

2

34

.230

.322

.300

18.55

 

     

 

     

 

 

1989

1

Ryne

Sandberg

30

76

.290

.356

.497

28.78

1989

2

Julio

Franco

13

92

.316

.386

.462

27.80

1989

3

Lou

Whitaker

28

85

.251

.361

.462

24.71

1989

4

Roberto

Alomar

7

56

.295

.347

.376

21.96

1989

5

Steve

Sax

5

63

.315

.364

.387

20.61

1989

6

Willie

Randolph

2

36

.282

.366

.326

19.76

1989

7

Robby

Thompson

13

50

.241

.321

.400

18.76

1989

8

Jody

Reed

3

40

.288

.376

.393

18.21

 

     

 

     

 

 

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

1990

1

Ryne

Sandberg

40

100

.306

.354

.559

33.03

1990

2

Julio

Franco

11

69

.296

.383

.402

26.80

1990

3

Paul

Molitor

12

45

.285

.343

.464

26.52

1990

4

Lou

Whitaker

18

60

.237

.338

.407

23.92

1990

5

Roberto

Alomar

6

60

.287

.340

.381

22.95

1990

6

Bip

Roberts

9

44

.309

.375

.433

20.61

1990

7

Gregg

Jefferies

15

68

.283

.337

.434

18.92

1990

8

Jody

Reed

5

51

.289

.371

.390

18.76

 

     

 

     

 

 

1991

1

Ryne

Sandberg

26

100

.291

.379

.485

34.03

1991

2

Lou

Whitaker

23

78

.279

.391

.489

26.23

1991

3

Roberto

Alomar

9

69

.295

.354

.436

26.22

1991

4

Julio

Franco

15

78

.341

.408

.474

25.70

1991

5

Carlos

Baerga

11

69

.288

.346

.398

20.23

1991

6

Willie

Randolph

0

54

.327

.424

.374

19.53

1991

7

Steve

Sax

10

56

.304

.345

.414

18.95

1991

8

Robby

Thompson

19

48

.262

.352

.447

18.88

 

     

 

     

 

 

1992

1

Ryne

Sandberg

26

87

.304

.371

.510

30.36

1992

2

Roberto

Alomar

8

76

.310

.405

.427

30.04

1992

3

Craig

Biggio

6

39

.277

.378

.369

28.07

1992

4

Lou

Whitaker

19

71

.278

.386

.461

24.99

1992

5

Carlos

Baerga

20

105

.312

.354

.455

24.52

1992

6

Tony

Phillips

10

64

.276

.387

.388

23.48

1992

7

Chuck

Knoblauch

2

56

.297

.384

.358

20.89

1992

8

Bip

Roberts

4

45

.323

.393

.432

19.65

 

72.  The A and B options at Second Base

              Craig Biggio came to the majors in 1988 as a catcher.   As a catcher he was a mixed blessing, a singles-hitting catcher who ran exceptionally well for a C but couldn’t throw out Orrin Hatch stealing second base.   He led the league in stolen bases allowed every season; in 1991 he led in passed balls as well.   In 1992 he moved to second base.  I was skeptical that this would work, but in his second season at second he hit 21 homers and 41 doubles, and emerged as one of the top second basemen in baseball.

              Roberto Alomar also came to the majors in 1988, as a Padre.  After the 1990 season he was traded to Toronto in a two-for-two trade of four players of near-Hall of Fame quality:  Alomar, Joe Carter, Fred McGriff and Tony Fernandez.  I am not sure there has ever been any other trade in major league history with four stars of that magnitude. 

              By 1993 Biggio and Alomar were the two best second basemen in baseball.   Alomar would help the Blue Jays to two World Series championships.  Craig Biggio was my favorite player in the years after the Royals ceased to be interesting and before I worked for the Red Sox, and this method shows Biggio to be the stronger of the two Hall of Famers.  But I should also point out that Alomar had enormous impact on pennant races. I once did a study of pennant race impact which showed that the two position players who had the most impact on pennant races, post-1900, were Babe Ruth and Roberto Alomar.  It is really not clear to me who was the greater player, Alomar or Biggio.

              Note that Lou Whitaker, who was the #1 second baseman in baseball for a year before Sandberg, survived to be one of the top men at the start of the Alomar/Biggio era. 

 

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

1993

1

Craig

Biggio

21

64

.287

.373

.474

28.05

1993

2

Roberto

Alomar

17

93

.326

.408

.492

27.90

1993

3

Carlos

Baerga

21

114

.321

.355

.486

24.97

1993

4

Lou

Whitaker

9

67

.290

.412

.449

21.42

1993

5

Ryne

Sandberg

9

45

.309

.359

.412

21.39

1993

6

Chuck

Knoblauch

2

41

.277

.354

.346

20.25

1993

7

Jeff

Blauser

15

73

.305

.401

.436

19.59

1993

8

Robby

Thompson

19

65

.312

.375

.496

17.76

1993

9

Delino

DeShields

2

29

.295

.389

.372

16.82

 

     

 

     

 

 

1994

1

Craig

Biggio

6

56

.318

.411

.483

30.46

1994

2

Chuck

Knoblauch

5

51

.312

.381

.461

24.60

1994

3

Roberto

Alomar

8

38

.306

.386

.452

22.37

1994

4

Carlos

Baerga

19

80

.314

.333

.525

22.34

1994

5

Jeff

Kent

14

68

.292

.341

.475

17.27

1994

6

Ryne

Sandberg

5

24

.238

.312

.390

15.27

1994

7

Lou

Whitaker

12

43

.301

.377

.491

14.65

1994

8

Bret

Boone

12

68

.320

.368

.491

14.60

1994

9

Jeff

Blauser

6

45

.258

.329

.382

14.38

 

     

 

     

 

 

1995

1

Craig

Biggio

22

77

.302

.406

.483

31.47

1995

2

Chuck

Knoblauch

11

63

.333

.424

.487

27.69

1995

3

Roberto

Alomar

13

66

.300

.354

.449

21.95

1995

4

Carlos

Baerga

15

90

.314

.355

.452

19.89

1995

5

Eric

Young

6

36

.317

.404

.473

17.47

1995

6

Mike

Lansing

10

62

.255

.299

.392

15.31

1995

7

Jeff

Kent

20

65

.278

.327

.464

15.13

1995

8

Joey

Cora

3

39

.297

.359

.372

14.80

1995

9

Bret

Boone

15

68

.267

.326

.429

14.69

 

     

 

     

 

 

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

1996

1

Craig

Biggio

15

75

.288

.386

.415

33.05

1996

2

Chuck

Knoblauch

13

72

.341

.448

.517

29.28

1996

3

Roberto

Alomar

22

94

.328

.411

.527

26.45

1996

4

Eric

Young

8

74

.324

.393

.421

19.44

1996

5

Mike

Lansing

11

53

.285

.341

.406

17.11

1996

6

Ray

Durham

10

65

.275

.350

.406

17.06

1996

7

Ryne

Sandberg

25

92

.244

.316

.444

16.69

1996

8

Joey

Cora

6

45

.291

.340

.417

16.17

1996

9

Carlos

Baerga

12

66

.254

.293

.381

15.20

 

     

 

     

 

 

1997

1

Craig

Biggio

22

81

.309

.415

.501

35.41

1997

2

Roberto

Alomar

14

60

.333

.390

.500

25.92

1997

3

Chuck

Knoblauch

9

58

.291

.390

.411

25.62

1997

4

John

Valentin

18

77

.306

.372

.499

21.52

1997

5

Jeff

Kent

29

121

.250

.316

.472

21.11

1997

6

Eric

Young

8

61

.280

.359

.397

19.02

1997

7

Tony

Phillips

8

57

.275

.392

.391

18.66

1997

8

Ray

Durham

11

53

.271

.337

.382

18.50

1997

9

Jeff

Blauser

17

70

.308

.405

.482

18.36

 

     

 

     

 

 

1998

1

Craig

Biggio

20

88

.325

.403

.503

33.26

1998

2

Jeff

Kent

31

128

.297

.359

.555

25.76

1998

3

Roberto

Alomar

14

56

.282

.347

.418

24.50

1998

4

Chuck

Knoblauch

17

64

.265

.361

.405

23.63

1998

5

Ray

Durham

19

67

.285

.363

.455

21.14

1998

6

Jose

Offerman

7

66

.315

.403

.438

20.28

1998

7

Damion

Easley

27

100

.271

.332

.478

19.49

1998

8

Eric

Young

8

43

.285

.355

.396

17.30

1998

9

Todd

Walker

12

62

.316

.372

.473

17.24

1998

10

Fernando

Vina

7

45

.311

.386

.427

16.88

 

     

 

     

 

 

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

1999

1

Roberto

Alomar

24

120

.323

.422

.533

29.76

1999

2

Craig

Biggio

16

73

.294

.386

.457

29.56

1999

3

Jeff

Kent

23

101

.290

.366

.511

27.49

1999

4

Chuck

Knoblauch

18

68

.292

.393

.454

22.17

1999

5

Randy

Velarde

16

76

.317

.390

.455

21.08

1999

6

Ray

Durham

13

60

.296

.373

.435

20.36

1999

7

Jose

Offerman

8

69

.294

.391

.435

18.79

1999

8

Bret

Boone

20

63

.252

.310

.416

18.15

1999

9

Damion

Easley

20

65

.266

.346

.434

17.84

1999

10

Tony

Womack

4

41

.277

.332

.370

16.82

 

     

 

     

 

 

2000

1

Jeff

Kent

33

125

.334

.424

.596

32.16

2000

2

Roberto

Alomar

19

89

.310

.378

.475

25.49

2000

3

Craig

Biggio

8

35

.268

.388

.393

21.48

2000

4

Jose

Vidro

24

97

.330

.379

.540

21.00

2000

5

Ray

Durham

17

75

.280

.361

.450

20.84

2000

6

Bret

Boone

19

74

.251

.326

.421

20.67

2000

7

Eric

Young

6

47

.297

.367

.399

16.65

2000

8

Delino

DeShields

10

86

.296

.369

.444

16.31

2000

9

Damion

Easley

14

58

.259

.350

.416

15.87

2000

10

Tony

Womack

7

57

.271

.307

.384

15.69

 

     

 

     

 

 

2001

1

Roberto

Alomar

20

100

.336

.415

.541

29.15

2001

2

Jeff

Kent

22

106

.298

.369

.507

28.67

2001

3

Bret

Boone

37

141

.331

.372

.578

27.47

2001

4

Craig

Biggio

20

70

.292

.382

.455

22.35

2001

5

Jose

Vidro

15

59

.319

.371

.486

21.60

2001

6

Ray

Durham

20

65

.267

.337

.466

20.82

2001

7

Todd

Walker

17

75

.296

.355

.459

18.31

2001

8

Alfonso

Soriano

18

73

.268

.304

.432

17.33

2001

9

Fernando

Vina

9

56

.303

.357

.418

15.86

2001

10

Eric

Young

6

42

.279

.333

.393

15.77

 

 

73.   Clark Kent’s Younger Brother

              The Jeff Kent Era overlaps with the end of the Biggio/Alomar era.   2000 and 2001 you could put in either era:

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

2002

1

Jeff

Kent

37

108

.313

.368

.565

27.87

2002

2

Bret

Boone

24

107

.278

.339

.462

25.54

2002

3

Alfonso

Soriano

39

102

.300

.332

.547

23.88

2002

4

Jose

Vidro

19

96

.315

.378

.490

23.13

2002

5

Ray

Durham

15

70

.289

.374

.450

21.33

2002

6

Junior

Spivey

16

78

.301

.389

.476

19.87

2002

7

Roberto

Alomar

11

53

.266

.331

.376

19.39

2002

8

Todd

Walker

11

64

.299

.353

.431

18.96

2002

9

Craig

Biggio

15

58

.253

.330

.404

18.24

2002

10

Mark

Bellhorn

27

56

.258

.374

.512

17.18

 

     

 

     

 

 

2003

1

Jeff

Kent

22

93

.297

.351

.509

24.70

2003

2

Bret

Boone

35

117

.294

.366

.535

24.66

2003

3

Alfonso

Soriano

38

91

.290

.338

.525

24.08

2003

4

Marcus

Giles

21

69

.316

.390

.526

20.64

2003

5

Michael

Young

14

72

.306

.339

.446

20.47

2003

6

Jose

Vidro

15

65

.310

.397

.470

20.27

2003

7

Todd

Walker

13

85

.283

.333

.428

18.97

2003

8

Placido

Polanco

14

63

.289

.352

.447

18.48

2003

9

Ray

Durham

8

33

.285

.366

.441

18.43

2003

10

Luis

Castillo

6

39

.314

.381

.397

16.31

 

     

 

     

 

 

2004

1

Mark

Loretta

16

76

.335

.391

.495

26.49

2004

2

Jeff

Kent

27

107

.289

.348

.531

24.51

2004

3

Alfonso

Soriano

28

91

.280

.324

.484

20.40

2004

4

Ray

Durham

17

65

.282

.364

.484

19.70

2004

5

Marcus

Giles

8

48

.311

.378

.443

18.71

2004

6

Brian

Roberts

4

53

.273

.344

.376

18.01

2004

7

Placido

Polanco

17

55

.298

.345

.441

17.60

2004

8

Ron

Belliard

12

70

.282

.348

.426

17.32

2004

9

Jose

Vidro

14

60

.294

.367

.454

17.07

2004

10

Mark

Bellhorn

17

82

.264

.373

.444

16.99

 

     

 

     

 

 

2005

1

Jeff

Kent

29

105

.289

.377

.512

25.62

2005

2

Chase

Utley

28

105

.291

.376

.540

23.64

2005

3

Brian

Roberts

18

73

.314

.387

.515

21.71

2005

4

Mark

Loretta

3

38

.280

.360

.347

21.15

2005

5

Marcus

Giles

15

63

.291

.365

.461

20.09

2005

6

Alfonso

Soriano

36

104

.268

.309

.512

19.48

2005

7

Placido

Polanco

9

56

.331

.383

.447

18.57

2005

8

Ray

Durham

12

62

.290

.356

.429

18.16

2005

9

Ron

Belliard

17

78

.284

.325

.450

17.93

2005

10

Mark

Ellis

13

52

.316

.384

.477

17.14

 

              Kent is the number one second baseman of all time, in terms of dominating the position, who is not in the Hall of Fame. 

 

74.  Utley

              I would not vote for Jeff Kent for the Hall of Fame, but I might vote for Chase Utley—not that I have a Hall of Fame vote; I don’t, but if I did I might vote for Utley.   We used to say about Craig Biggio that he had the best "little stats" in baseball history.   There are stats like hit by pitch, caught stealing, sacrifice flies and grounding into a double play which don’t happen often enough, by themselves, to be major areas of the game like hitting homers and hitting for average, but which, if you add them all together, can be quite significant.   One player is hit by a pitch 30 times and grounds into 2 double plays while the other reaches on a hit batsmen 2 times and grounds into 30 double plays, that’s a difference of 56 baserunners over the course of a season, which is comparable in impact to a difference of 100 points in batting average. 

              Biggio had the greatest "little stats" in baseball history, probably, and Utley was the heir to the Craig Biggio crown.   He led the league in being hit with a pitch three straight years—25, 27, 24.   In 2016 he made it through the entire season without grounding into double play, I believe the first regular since Biggio to do that, and I believe only the third player ever to do that.   In 2009 he stole 23 bases without being caught, I believe the only player ever to do that (although Carlos Beltran was 28 for 28 in the National League in 2004, but was caught three times in the American League.)  Utley is the major league record holder for career stolen base percentage, 100 or more steals.  

              In the years of Utley’s prime we were pushing out the envelope of things that we measured.   Of course we have been doing that for 40 years, but those were active years.  When we figured data on something that we had not studied before, most of the time Utley would turn out to be the best player in the majors at whatever.   We would figure which players were best at going from first to third on a single; Utley would turn out to be the best player in the majors at going first to third on a single.  We would figure which players were best at turning the double play, based on actual double play opportunities; it was Utley.   This happened so often that we just started to assume that the #1 player at whatever we were trying to measure would be Utley.  

              He was the best offensive second baseman in baseball, he was the best defensive second baseman in baseball, he was the best baserunner in baseball.  He led his team to five straight division championships and a World Championship. 

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

2006

1

Chase

Utley

32

102

.309

.379

.527

26.75

2006

2

Jeff

Kent

14

68

.292

.385

.477

21.70

2006

3

Brian

Roberts

10

55

.286

.347

.410

20.55

2006

4

Robinson

Cano

15

78

.342

.365

.525

19.13

2006

5

Ray

Durham

26

93

.293

.360

.538

18.80

2006

6

Dan

Uggla

27

90

.282

.339

.480

18.80

2006

7

Freddy

Sanchez

6

85

.344

.378

.473

18.70

2006

8

Orlando

Hudson

15

67

.287

.354

.454

18.19

2006

9

Mark

Loretta

5

59

.285

.345

.361

17.82

2006

10

Placido

Polanco

4

52

.295

.329

.364

16.67

 

     

 

     

 

 

2007

1

Chase

Utley

22

103

.332

.410

.566

29.97

2007

2

Brian

Roberts

12

57

.290

.377

.432

22.28

2007

3

Dan

Uggla

31

88

.245

.326

.479

21.51

2007

4

Robinson

Cano

19

97

.306

.353

.488

19.78

2007

5

Placido

Polanco

9

67

.341

.388

.458

19.75

2007

6

Ian

Kinsler

20

61

.263

.355

.441

19.32

2007

7

Dustin

Pedroia

8

50

.317

.380

.442

18.42

2007

8

Freddy

Sanchez

11

81

.304

.343

.442

18.34

2007

9

Orlando

Hudson

10

63

.294

.376

.441

18.14

2007

10

Jeff

Kent

20

79

.302

.375

.500

17.89

 

     

 

     

 

 

2008

1

Chase

Utley

33

104

.292

.380

.535

30.46

2008

2

Ian

Kinsler

18

71

.319

.375

.517

24.04

2008

3

Dustin

Pedroia

17

83

.326

.376

.493

23.17

2008

4

Dan

Uggla

32

92

.260

.360

.514

22.91

2008

5

Brian

Roberts

9

57

.296

.378

.450

22.22

2008

6

Brandon

Phillips

21

78

.261

.312

.442

19.05

2008

7

Placido

Polanco

8

58

.307

.350

.417

18.85

2008

8

Jose

Lopez

17

89

.297

.322

.443

18.11

2008

9

Howie

Kendrick

3

37

.306

.333

.421

17.65

2008

10

Kelly

Johnson

12

69

.287

.349

.446

17.62

 

     

 

     

 

 

2009

1

Chase

Utley

31

93

.282

.397

.508

30.90

2009

2

Dustin

Pedroia

15

72

.296

.371

.447

23.77

2009

3

Ian

Kinsler

31

86

.253

.327

.488

23.74

2009

4

Ben

Zobrist

27

91

.297

.405

.543

23.60

2009

5

Dan

Uggla

31

90

.243

.354

.459

22.11

2009

6

Robinson

Cano

25

85

.320

.352

.520

21.15

2009

7

Brian

Roberts

16

79

.283

.356

.451

21.09

2009

8

Aaron

Hill

36

108

.286

.330

.499

20.55

2009

9

Brandon

Phillips

20

98

.276

.329

.447

19.57

2009

10

Howie

Kendrick

10

61

.291

.334

.444

18.73

 

75.  Bringing Us Up to Date

              From 2010 to 2014 the best second baseman in baseball was Robinson Cano:

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

2010

1

Robinson

Cano

29

109

.319

.381

.534

29.01

2010

2

Chase

Utley

16

65

.275

.387

.445

28.46

2010

3

Rickie Jr.

Weeks

29

83

.269

.366

.464

24.46

2010

4

Dan

Uggla

33

105

.287

.369

.508

22.69

2010

5

Dustin

Pedroia

12

41

.288

.367

.493

21.24

2010

6

Ian

Kinsler

9

45

.286

.382

.412

20.04

2010

7

Martin

Prado

15

66

.307

.350

.459

19.65

2010

8

Brandon

Phillips

18

59

.275

.332

.430

19.63

2010

9

Howie

Kendrick

10

75

.279

.313

.407

18.98

2010

10

Marco

Scutaro

11

56

.275

.333

.388

18.13

 

     

 

     

 

 

2011

1

Robinson

Cano

28

118

.302

.349

.533

30.97

2011

2

Ben

Zobrist

20

91

.269

.353

.469

27.01

2011

3

Dustin

Pedroia

21

91

.307

.387

.474

24.03

2011

4

Chase

Utley

11

44

.259

.344

.425

23.49

2011

5

Brandon

Phillips

18

82

.300

.352

.457

21.36

2011

6

Dan

Uggla

36

82

.233

.311

.453

20.72

2011

7

Rickie Jr.

Weeks

20

49

.269

.350

.468

20.65

2011

8

Ian

Kinsler

32

77

.255

.355

.477

20.53

2011

9

Starlin

Castro

10

66

.307

.341

.432

20.38

2011

10

Neil

Walker

12

83

.273

.334

.408

19.87

 

     

 

     

 

 

2012

1

Robinson

Cano

33

94

.313

.379

.550

33.70

2012

2

Neil

Walker

14

69

.280

.342

.426

22.39

2012

3

Jason

Kipnis

14

76

.257

.335

.379

21.45

2012

4

Dustin

Pedroia

15

65

.290

.347

.449

21.03

2012

5

Chase

Utley

11

45

.256

.365

.429

20.60

2012

6

Brandon

Phillips

18

77

.281

.321

.429

20.43

2012

7

Aaron

Hill

26

85

.302

.360

.522

20.39

2012

8

Starlin

Castro

14

78

.283

.323

.430

19.89

2012

9

Daniel

Murphy

6

65

.291

.332

.403

19.47

2012

10

Rickie Jr.

Weeks

21

63

.230

.328

.400

18.74

 

     

 

     

 

 

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

2013

1

Robinson

Cano

27

107

.314

.383

.516

33.37

2013

2

Ben

Zobrist

12

71

.275

.354

.402

25.01

2013

3

Jason

Kipnis

17

84

.284

.366

.452

23.55

2013

4

Dustin

Pedroia

9

84

.301

.372

.415

22.51

2013

5

Neil

Walker

16

53

.251

.339

.418

22.40

2013

6

Chase

Utley

18

69

.284

.348

.475

22.14

2013

7

Daniel

Murphy

13

78

.286

.319

.415

21.39

2013

8

Ian

Kinsler

13

72

.277

.344

.413

21.13

2013

9

Brandon

Phillips

18

103

.261

.310

.396

20.73

2013

10

Howie

Kendrick

13

54

.297

.335

.439

18.48

 

     

 

     

 

 

2014

1

Robinson

Cano

14

82

.314

.382

.454

31.90

2014

2

Jose

Altuve

7

59

.341

.377

.453

26.27

2014

3

Ian

Kinsler

17

92

.275

.307

.420

23.03

2014

4

Daniel

Murphy

9

57

.289

.332

.403

22.86

2014

5

Neil

Walker

23

76

.271

.342

.467

22.82

2014

6

Howie

Kendrick

7

75

.293

.347

.397

22.33

2014

7

Ben

Zobrist

10

52

.272

.354

.395

21.13

2014

8

Chase

Utley

11

78

.270

.339

.407

20.94

2014

9

Brian

Dozier

23

71

.242

.345

.416

19.86

2014

10

Dustin

Pedroia

7

53

.278

.337

.376

19.68

 

 

              And since then, of course, it has been Jose Altuve:

YEAR

Rank

First

Last

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

Value

2015

1

Jose

Altuve

15

66

.313

.353

.459

28.92

2015

2

Robinson

Cano

21

79

.287

.334

.446

26.09

2015

3

Daniel

Murphy

14

73

.281

.322

.449

24.19

2015

4

Brian

Dozier

28

77

.236

.307

.444

23.41

2015

5

Ian

Kinsler

11

73

.296

.342

.428

22.70

2015

6

Neil

Walker

16

71

.269

.328

.427

22.51

2015

7

Dee

Gordon

4

46

.333

.359

.418

22.22

2015

8

Jason

Kipnis

9

52

.303

.372

.451

20.48

2015

9

Howie

Kendrick

9

54

.295

.336

.409

19.65

2015

10

Ben

Zobrist

13

56

.276

.359

.450

19.30

 

     

 

     

 

 

2016

1

Jose

Altuve

24

96

.338

.396

.531

32.66

2016

2

Daniel

Murphy

25

104

.347

.390

.595

28.15

2016

3

Robinson

Cano

39

103

.298

.350

.533

25.62

2016

4

Ian

Kinsler

28

83

.288

.348

.484

23.84

2016

5

Brian

Dozier

42

99

.268

.340

.546

23.46

2016

6

Neil

Walker

23

55

.282

.347

.476

20.73

2016

7

Cesar

Hernandez

6

39

.294

.371

.393

20.62

2016

8

Dustin

Pedroia

15

74

.318

.376

.449

19.12

2016

9

Jean

Segura

20

64

.319

.368

.499

19.12

2016

10

DJ

LeMahieu

11

66

.348

.416

.495

19.06

 

     

 

     

 

 

2017

1

Jose

Altuve

24

81

.346

.410

.547

30.77

2017

2

Daniel

Murphy

23

93

.322

.384

.543

24.00

2017

3

Brian

Dozier

34

93

.269

.357

.496

22.89

2017

4

Jonathan

Schoop

32

105

.293

.338

.503

22.75

2017

5

Robinson

Cano

23

97

.280

.338

.453

21.04

2017

6

Jed

Lowrie

14

69

.277

.360

.448

19.38

2017

7

Whit

Merrifield

19

78

.288

.324

.460

18.65

2017

8

DJ

LeMahieu

8

64

.310

.374

.409

17.58

2017

9

Cesar

Hernandez

9

34

.294

.373

.421

16.79

2017

10

Neil

Walker

14

49

.265

.362

.439

15.99

 

 

76.  Second Base Summary

              There are 66 second basemen in history who have earned at least 20 points on the Years of Position Dominance Index.   Hall of Famers highlighted.

Rank

From

To

First

Last

1

2

3

4

5

YOPDI

1

1963

1984

Joe

Morgan

11

2

3

1

1

152

2

1906

1930

Eddie

Collins

11

3

4

0

0

147

3

1915

1937

Rogers

Hornsby

12

2

0

0

0

134

4

1896

1916

Nap

Lajoie

12

3

1

0

0

118

5

1988

2007

Craig

Biggio

6

2

2

2

1

106

6

1981

1997

Ryne

Sandberg

8

1

1

0

1

103

7

1988

2004

Roberto

Alomar

2

4

5

1

1

99

8

1924

1942

Charlie

Gehringer

8

0

3

1

2

96

9

1992

2008

Jeff

Kent

4

4

1

0

2

90

10

1977

1995

Lou

Whitaker

1

3

3

6

0

87

 

       

 

     

 

 

11

1970

1986

Bobby

Grich

3

4

3

0

1

86

11

2005

2017

Robinson

Cano

5

1

1

2

1

86

13

1888

1901

Cupid

Childs

7

1

1

0

0

81

14

1967

1985

Rod

Carew

3

4

1

1

0

80

14

1919

1937

Frankie

Frisch

3

6

1

1

2

80

16

1947

1965

Nellie

Fox

5

3

1

1

1

79

17

1937

1951

Bobby

Doerr

3

5

2

0

2

75

18

1975

1992

Willie

Randolph

2

1

2

2

4

74

19

2003

2017

Chase

Utley

4

2

0

1

1

72

20

1938

1950

Joe

Gordon

5

0

2

3

0

64

 

       

 

     

 

 

21

1931

1947

Billy

Herman

0

6

4

2

1

63

22

1879

1892

Hardy

Richardson

2

4

2

3

0

62

23

1880

1891

Fred

Dunlap

5

1

1

0

0

61

24

1947

1956

Jackie

Robinson

4

2

1

1

0

60

25

1907

1920

Larry

Doyle

0

6

2

1

2

54

26

1960

1975

Dick

McAuliffe

3

0

2

1

1

52

27

1991

2002

Chuck

Knoblauch

0

3

1

2

0

48

28

1943

1953

Eddie

Stanky

0

5

3

0

0

47

29

2000

2013

Michael

Young

1

1

2

1

3

45

30

1882

1899

Bid

McPhee

0

3

3

4

3

44

 

       

 

     

 

 

31

2006

2017

Ian

Kinsler

0

1

2

1

1

43

31

2006

2017

Dustin

Pedroia

0

1

2

2

1

43

33

1912

1924

Del

Pratt

0

2

6

1

2

42

33

2006

2017

Ben

Zobrist

1

2

1

1

0

42

35

1900

1915

Danny

Murphy

0

3

4

2

0

41

35

1945

1963

Red

Schoendienst

1

2

3

2

1

41

37

2011

2017

Jose

Altuve

3

1

0

0

0

38

37

1876

1891

Jack

Burdock

2

0

3

3

0

38

39

1926

1939

Tony

Lazzeri

0

4

1

2

1

37

40

1951

1960

Gil

McDougald

2

2

0

0

2

36

 

       

 

     

 

 

40

1982

1999

Tony

Phillips

0

0

1

2

2

36

42

1995

2008

Ray

Durham

0

0

0

1

4

35

42

1956

1972

Bill

Mazeroski

0

3

2

0

1

35

44

1956

1967

Jerry

Lumpe

3

0

0

1

0

34

44

1925

1941

Buddy

Myer

0

2

4

1

2

34

46

2001

2014

Brian

Roberts

0

1

2

0

1

33

47

1876

1884

Bob

Ferguson

1

2

1

1

2

32

47

2008

2017

Daniel

Murphy

0

2

1

1

0

32

47

2006

2015

Dan

Uggla

0

0

1

2

1

32

50

1882

1892

Yank

Robinson

2

1

1

0

0

31

 

       

 

     

 

 

51

1992

2005

Bret

Boone

0

2

1

0

0

30

52

1965

1978

Davey

Johnson

0

1

1

2

3

29

52

1972

1987

Davey

Lopes

0

1

0

3

1

29

52

1943

1952

Snuffy

Stirnweiss

2

1

0

1

0

29

55

1990

2005

Carlos

Baerga

0

0

1

2

2

28

55

1983

1998

Juan

Samuel

0

1

2

1

0

28

55

2009

2017

Neil

Walker

0

1

0

0

2

28

58

1879

1889

Jack

Farrell

0

3

1

1

0

27

59

1966

1973

Mike

Andrews

0

3

0

0

0

25

59

1995

2009

Mark

Loretta

1

1

0

1

0

25

 

       

 

     

 

 

59

1981

1994

Steve

Sax

1

0

0

1

2

25

62

1902

1929

Johnny

Evers

0

2

1

1

3

23

62

1920

1934

Marty

McManus

0

0

3

5

1

23

64

1973

1988

Phil

Garner

0

0

1

0

0

22

64

1997

2008

Jose

Vidro

0

0

0

2

1

22

66

1886

1892

Hub

Collins

1

1

1

0

0

21

 

              And these are the top 50 second basemen by Peak Value, Hall of Famers in gold:

 

Rank

First

Last

YEAR

HR

RBI

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

Peak

1

Rogers

Hornsby

1922

42

152

.401

.459

.722

1.181

42.30

2

Joe

Morgan

1975

17

94

.327

.466

.508

.974

42.19

3

Eddie

Collins

1914

2

85

.344

.452

.452

.904

38.82

4

Nap

Lajoie

1901

14

125

.426

.463

.643

1.106

38.21

5

Craig

Biggio

1997

22

81

.309

.415

.501

.916

35.41

6

Jackie

Robinson

1951

19

88

.338

.429

.527

.957

35.08

7

Ryne

Sandberg

1991

26

100

.291

.379

.485

.865

34.03

8

Robinson

Cano

2012

33

94

.313

.379

.550

.929

33.70

9

Charlie

Gehringer

1934

11

127

.356

.450

.517

.967

33.32

10

Jose

Altuve

2016

24

96

.338

.396

.531

.928

32.66

 

     

 

       

 

 

11

Rod

Carew

1975

14

80

.359

.421

.497

.919

32.17

12

Jeff

Kent

2000

33

125

.334

.424

.596

1.021

32.16

13

Chase

Utley

2009

31

93

.282

.397

.508

.905

30.90

14

Bobby

Grich

1974

19

82

.263

.376

.431

.807

30.67

15

Roberto

Alomar

1992

8

76

.310

.405

.427

.832

30.04

16

Chuck

Knoblauch

1996

13

72

.341

.448

.517

.965

29.28

17

Snuffy

Stirnweiss

1944

8

43

.319

.389

.460

.849

29.05

18

Frankie

Frisch

1923

12

111

.348

.395

.485

.880

29.02

19

Billy

Herman

1936

5

93

.334

.392

.470

.862

28.30

20

Daniel

Murphy

2016

25

104

.347

.390

.595

.985

28.15

 

     

 

       

 

 

21

Larry

Doyle

1911

13

77

.310

.397

.527

.924

27.96

22

Julio

Franco

1989

13

92

.316

.386

.462

.848

27.80

23

Johnny

Evers

1908

0

37

.300

.402

.375

.777

27.74

24

Joe

Gordon

1942

18

103

.322

.409

.491

.900

27.72

25

Bret

Boone

2001

37

141

.331

.372

.578

.950

27.47

26

Nellie

Fox

1957

6

61

.317

.403

.415

.818

27.34

27

Buddy

Myer

1935

5

100

.349

.440

.468

.907

27.21

28

Dick

McAuliffe

1967

22

65

.239

.364

.411

.775

27.18

29

Bobby

Doerr

1944

15

81

.325

.399

.528

.927

27.10

30

Ben

Zobrist

2011

20

91

.269

.353

.469

.822

27.01

 

     

 

       

 

 

31

Willie

Randolph

1980

7

46

.294

.427

.407

.834

26.97

32

Duke

Kenworthy

1914

15

91

.317

.372

.525

.896

26.61

33

Paul

Molitor

1990

12

45

.285

.343

.464

.807

26.52

34

Mark

Loretta

2004

16

76

.335

.391

.495

.886

26.49

35

Tony

Lazzeri

1929

18

106

.354

.430

.561

.992

26.27

36

Lou

Whitaker

1991

23

78

.279

.391

.489

.881

26.23

37

Danny

Murphy

1904

7

77

.287

.320

.440

.760

26.17

38

Eddie

Stanky

1950

8

51

.300

.460

.412

.872

25.79

39

Pete

Rose

1966

16

70

.313

.351

.460

.811

25.36

40

Gil

McDougald

1955

13

53

.285

.361

.407

.768

24.98

 

     

 

       

 

 

41

Carlos

Baerga

1993

21

114

.321

.355

.486

.840

24.97

42

Tom

Daly

1899

5

88

.313

.409

.428

.837

24.92

43

Tom

Herr

1985

8

110

.302

.379

.416

.795

24.77

44

Frank

LaPorte

1914

4

107

.311

.361

.436

.797

24.73

45

Red

Schoendienst

1953

15

79

.342

.405

.502

.907

24.54

46

Rickie Jr.

Weeks

2010

29

83

.269

.366

.464

.830

24.46

47

Del

Pratt

1913

2

87

.296

.341

.402

.743

24.40

48

George

Grantham

1929

12

90

.307

.454

.533

.987

24.21

49

Steve

Sax

1986

6

56

.332

.390

.441

.830

24.13

50

Alfonso

Soriano

2003

38

91

.290

.338

.525

.863

24.08

 

              We could say, in general terms and with some lack of precision, that the best second baseman in baseball in 1900 was Nap Lajoie, then Eddie Collins, then Rogers Hornsby, then Charlie Gehringer, then Joe Gordon, then Bobby Doerr, then Jackie Robinson, then Nellie Fox, then Bill Mazeroski, then Dick McAuliffe, then Joe Morgan, then Ryne Sandberg, then Craig Biggio or Robbie Alomar, then Jeff Kent, then Chase Utley, then Robinson Cano, and now Jose Altuve.

 

77.  19th Century Third Basemen

              The top third baseman of the 19th century, as measured by the Years of Position Dominance Index, was Ezra Sutton:

 

 

From

To

First

Last

1

2

3

4

5

YOPDI

1876

1888

Ezra

Sutton

3

3

0

3

2

59

1878

1890

Ned

Williamson

2

4

2

0

0

56

1890

1898

Bill

Joyce

1

4

0

1

1

41

1876

1890

Deacon

White

3

1

0

1

2

41

1884

1898

Billy

Nash

2

1

1

4

1

40

1880

1909

Arlie

Latham

3

0

0

3

2

38

1891

1906

John

McGraw

2

0

4

0

0

36

1880

1892

Tom

Burns

0

0

5

0

1

21

1895

1908

Jimmy

Collins

1

1

0

1

0

19

1884

1893

George

Pinckney

0

2

0

0

1

15

 

              Three Hall of Famers there.   John McGraw was elected more as a manager than as a player, although he was a tremendously effective player in a short career.   Jimmy Collins was still a young player at the end of the 19th century.   The only actual 19th century third baseman in the Hall of Fame was Deacon White, who was not elected until 2013. 

 
 

COMMENTS (38 Comments, most recent shown first)

bjames
dbutler69
I'd love to see that study of players' impact on pennant races.


I may have published it, and it may be here somewhere. The original study was done before I started BJOL. I think I went back and re-visited the issue, about 2009 or 2010.
2:23 PM Jan 10th
 
MarisFan61
An interesting little thing that Bill said, about the 1978-1983 middle infielders:

".....the second basemen of this era are far better than the shortstops. The second basemen are great; the shortstops are weak. Probably related somehow."

Anyone have any impression or guess about how they might be related, or (putting the same thing another way) why this may have been?

I don't, but I love things like that and I'd be very interesting in any ideas about it.

The onliest thing I can come up with is that maybe somehow for this little period, the method relatively underrates the shortstops as compared to the second basemen and that the actual difference in quality between them isn't as it appears. But this is just a stray thought. Don't put anything on it, because I'm not.
12:54 PM Jan 10th
 
Brock Hanke
Steven - Probably not. The whole "trayner" thing is listed as obsolete and rare, not to mention variant spellings. It's also without the "n" - the actual word is "trayer." I, of course looked under "trainer", with the "n", but there is no variant spelling listed, and the definitions are "someone who trains somebody" and "a person who pulls something along." A locomotive engine is the "trainer" for the whole "train." My experience is that, in cases like this, you go with the spelling that is missing one letter, hence what I posted up. If there had been even one variant "o" spelling of "trainer", I'd have gone with that, but it's ALWAYS spelled with the "iner."

There's also the problem with spelling in general. Technically, Shakespeare's language is called "early modern English." This essentially means "English far along in development that the dominant spellings and meanings of London are taking over the many, many variant meanings and spellings of early variants in different parts of England." Even in Shakespeare's time, spelling was haphazard. We have several "William Shakespeare" signatures, written by the man himself, and they are not all spelled the same.

Shakespeare himself used the word "tapster" most often, which, given spellings from other authors at the same time, implies that "tapster" had become the word used for this job by the time of Shakespeare. The reason the OED is so useful is that it is an etymological dictionary: it lists the definitions of words in the order they appeared in history, with the very first quote of its use anywhere in English. "Traynor", or any variant, seems to have had its primary use from about 1400-1550. Possible for Shakespeare, but not likely.
1:55 AM Jan 10th
 
Brock Hanke
BryanBM - THANKS! For once, my teenage sources got it right. What you've posted is exactly what I'd been taught - Sisler was elected before anyone knew how bad off poor Lou Gehrig really was. I actually thought they were inducted in the same ceremony, but it appears that Sisler was inducted before Gehrig was too. Whew! I always sweat it when I cite sources from my youth.
1:28 AM Jan 10th
 
dbutler69
I'd love to see that study of players' impact on pennant races.
2:32 PM Jan 9th
 
Steven Goldleaf
So that would make "Francis" in "Henry IV, part I," a traynor? He's "Frank Traynor"?
1:51 PM Jan 9th
 
BryanBM
Jan/Feb 1939 - Sisler elected (Feb 2, 1936 for Ruth's class)
April 30, 1939 - Gehrig's last game, still travels with team
Monday, June 12, 1939 - Sisler inducted
Wednesday, June 21, 1939 - Yankees announce Gehrig's retirement

Maybe Gehrig told the Yankees he was retiring before Sisler is inducted but the announcement was delayed to avoid casting a pall over the coverage of the Hall of Fame officially opening.

https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/past-inductions/1936-1939

After 20 more members were added to the Hall of Fame in the elections in 1937, 1938 and 1939 [includes Sisler], the first Induction Ceremony was held on June 12, 1939 – with all 11 living electees present in Cooperstown. Lou Gehrig is recognized as a member of the Class of 1939, but Gehrig was not elected until late in the year after it became clear that his playing career was over due to complications from amyotrophic lateral sclerosis.

m.mlb.com/cutfour/2014/12/07/103418240/its-been-75-years-since-the-bbwaa-held-a-special-election-to-vote-lou-gehrig-into-the-hall-of-fame<​/a>

With the ALS diagnosis cutting Gehrig's career -- and, ultimately, his life -- so short, the BBWAA agreed to make an exception for Gehrig. On Dec. 7, 1939, it voted to elect Henry Louis Gehrig into the Baseball Hall of Fame.

http://sabr.org/gamesproj/game/april-30-1939-lou-gehrig-plays-his-final-game-yankees

McCarthy, meanwhile penciled in 26-year-old Babe Dahlgren at first base, batting eighth on May 2. (The Yankees thumped the Tigers that day 22-2. Dahlgren went 2-for-5 with two RBI. It was one of three times that season the Yankees scored at least 20 runs.) Gehrig never played again, although he did travel with the team for a while.

On June 21, 1939, the Yankees announced Gehrig’s retirement. On July 4, they held Lou Gehrig Appreciation Day at Yankee Stadium.
9:45 AM Jan 9th
 
MarisFan61
Robinsong (nice to see you on here!) -- Thanks for that -- appreciate that info.

BTW maybe somebody can also set me straight on what Bill does about the games a player had at positions other than the one being considered. :-)
I don't think Bill has said. I did my best to infer. If I inferred right, I'd say it means that some of the rankings have been highly misleading -- which is why I keep asking about it.
1:01 AM Jan 9th
 
Brock Hanke
Steven - You have no way of knowing this, but I burned out a year and a dissertation from a Ph.D. in English, with a specialty in old theater. One of the side effects of this is that I have an Oxford English Dictionary (OED), and know how to use it. I started in on the many definitions of "tray", but none of them seemed like anything that would turn into a last name. Under "trainer", though, I found what is almost certainly it. "Traynor" is listed as an alternate spelling in the definition of "trainer" that means "tapster", someone who takes barrels of wine or other liquid, opens a hole, and installs something that works like a spigot, so that he can "draw" liquid from the barrel while still being able to stop before the barrel is empty. Etymologically, the word actually derives from "drawer" rather than "tapster." We still today use the phrase "draw a pint" or something like that. So, Pie Traynor's male-line ancestor was, essentially, a barkeeper. Last names are often a lot of fun if you have an OED.
12:21 AM Jan 9th
 
Robinsong
Marisfan-
You got Bill's method wrong. Alex Rodriguez will be rated at a shortstop, since that is where he had most vale and most games, but his 3rd base dominance will count towards his lifetime total. Also when he switched to 3rd his value as shortstop in earlier years count toward his value in the next couple of years. Bill assigns a player to the position with most game in that year - hence Musial sometimes appearing and sometimes not on the 1B rankings. But Musial rates #1 at 1b by counting his dominance in the outfield as well.
6:08 PM Jan 8th
 
Steven Goldleaf
Just playing, Brock. I knew you knew how to spell the name--I just think it's a very funny name, even spelled right.
6:04 AM Jan 8th
 
Brock Hanke
"Trainer" turns out to be an autocorrect flaw. I very carefully typed T-R-A-Y-N-O-R into my previous comment, and it was changed immediately to "trainer." Possibly useful for later commenters.
1:48 AM Jan 8th
 
Brock Hanke
Steven - Thanks for the fun typo-catch on Trainer. I have no idea whether I just types it or it got autocorrected, but that was a good response.

briangunn - Thanks to you, too, for the catch. Somehow, I "learned" that Sisler was elected before Gehrig was forced to retire. No idea what the source of that was. I didn't fact check it because I don't have any real idea of exactly when, in 1939, everyone agreed that Gehrig's career was over. Nor the exact date when the voters elected Sisler. I might be able to solve the first of those by looking up Gehrig's death date, but maybe not, and I still would not know when, exactly, the normal election took place that elected Sisler. If you DO know that info, please post it up. I'd strongly prefer to get that info straight, if for no other reason than that George Sisler was my father's favorite player. (I inherited my dad's collection of baseball cards. They are all from 1922. Dad was born in 1911.)
1:46 AM Jan 8th
 
shthar
PUT PIE HERE.
1:17 AM Jan 8th
 
briangunn
Fun stuff, Brock Hanke - thanks - but a quick question: what do you mean that the voters "didn't know about Gehrig yet" when they elected George Sisler to the Hall of Fame? Sisler was elected in 1939 alongside Gehrig himself (Gehrig's career ended in April of that year, and the committee waived the usual waiting period on account of his ALS).
3:25 PM Jan 7th
 
KaiserD2
MarisFan: As I have mentioned previously I compute WAA using DRA for fielding and dropping position adjustments, thus getting somewhat different figures from
baseball-reference.com. I thought I would give my result for Mantle in 1962.

On another front: I neglected to mention that I also show Utley with 3 seasons of 4 WAA or more. That makes him a serious HOF candidate based on history but a very arguable one. Sorry for the omission.

DK

9:06 AM Jan 7th
 
Steven Goldleaf
The other thing that impresses me about Pie Trainer is his ability to train pies. I’ve tried for years to get mine to perform several simple tricks, “turn over,” “beg,” “give me paw,” etc. but so far I’ve only been able to train them to do one trick, “play dead.”
8:46 AM Jan 7th
 
Brock Hanke
The 19th century third baseman thing is, if anything, even weirder than Bill makes it out to be. Deacon White did not start his career as a 3B; he started as a catcher, and was clearly the best catcher in all the years of the National Association, from 1871-1875. Later in his career, as the schedule lengths started to get serious, he was pulled out from behind the plate to keep his bat in the lineup, the result of which is that he played more games at 3B than at C. But in terms of seasons, if you don't discard the NA, Deacon White was the first great catcher in professional league baseball.

McGraw, as noted, was elected more as a manager than as a player, although his player credentials are pretty good.

Jimmy Collins was elected for two reasons: 1) He invented what we call modern 3B play. He was the first guy to figure out that, if you played in when you expected a bunt, as opposed to sitting on the base, you'd throw a lot more bunters out. This, at the time, completely revolutionalized how 3B was played. Also, 2) Here's a trick I use when I'm trying to figure out how good an old player is. Check his place in the New Historical Abstract list at his position. Jimmy Collins is ranked #17 at 3B. But now, go up the line, toward #1, looking for 3B who outranked Collins and who played earlier than he did. There aren't any. When Collins was playing, he was the best 3B in the history of the game. Then it was Home Run Baker. Also, if you check Pie Trainer, who slots in at #15, the only player who outranks him and who played before him is Baker. That probably has a lot to do with how those guys got into the Hall.

George Sisler is another one. At 1B, he's ranked 24th. But, ahead of him and playing earlier, there are only Anson, Brouthers, and Connor, all 19th century guys. The committee that elected George Sisler was simply electing the best 1B of the 20th century who had retired (they didn't know about Gehrig yet, and they weren't allowed to consider the 19th century).

FUN NOTE: There are, as best I can find, exactly three 19th century catchers who were at least good with the glove, but who got moved out from behind the plate to get their bats in the lineup. One per decade of the 19th century. Deacon White is the first. Next, in the 1880s, is Buck Ewing, who was certainly the best overall catcher of the 19th century, and very likely the best DEFENSIVE catcher of the 1880s, but who just plain hit too well to miss playing time. The third, in the 1890s, is Tom Daly. Daly played 4 years at catcher, hit well and had a decent glove, but got pulled out to 3B and then to 2B, where he had his actual career.
2:52 AM Jan 7th
 
MarisFan61
Kaiser: Not sure what's your point about 1962. I recognized that Mantle did have the amount that you gave as the benchmark.

Maybe your point is that I said a wrong number.
The number I gave is what is shown on baseball-reference.com.
If you're using a source that shows slightly different numbers, fine.
It doesn't matter.

BTW, I'm not annoyed, just not understanding what your point was there.
8:55 PM Jan 6th
 
KaiserD2
MarisFan:

1962 Yanks have Mantle whom I show at 4.8 WAA, best position player in the league.

On the 1963 Yanks you are right--they didn't have such a player. Tresh was their MVP with 3 WAA; Maris and Mantle performed at that level while they were in the lineup but both missed a lot of time. They could just as easily have lost in 1963 to the Twins, who had Bob Allison (6 WAA, the best player in the league) and Camilo Pascual (5, third best, behind Yaz.) And you are also right about the 1996 Yankees.

Overall I show that from 1901 through 1968, only 19 out of 126 pennant winners did not have a player with 4 WAA or more. From 1969 through 1993 we have 48 division winners, and only 16 of them did not have one. After that it becomes easier to reach the playoffs without one but most teams still have one. Based on those figures I concluded that 4 WAA is a fair fair measure of a "yes" answer to the question, if this guy were the best player on your team, could you win the pennant.

DK


8:39 PM Jan 6th
 
MarisFan61
BTW, to be clear about how these last couple of comments do or don't apply to this series by Bill:

I think it's a mixed thing, although we can't be sure because there's been a semi-major thing that I don't think Bill has addressed. (Please somebody correct this if it's wrong.)

Bill clearly doesn't count seasons in which a player didn't have some meaningful amount of time at the given position. Therefore, I guess, none of Alex Rodriguez's years at shortstop will count toward his ranking at third base, and vice versa.

However, as far as I've been able to tell, we don't know exactly what Bill does with it when a guy divides his time between or among positions in a season.
I raised this about Mike Grady, and unless I missed something, Bill never answered it, maybe because I was the one raising it. :-)

From the Grady example, it appears to me that Bill counts all of a guy's games as though they were at a player's major position or at whatever position Bill is regarding the guy. (Granting that my vision about such things isn't necessarily 20-20, it looks to me like that's the only way Grady could have come out with such rankings. I also offered the view that in view of Grady's actual time at catcher, those rankings were highly misleading.)
7:03 PM Jan 6th
 
MarisFan61
Following up on that by Steven:

I don't think there's any single solution -- there are various possible decent ways to do it -- and I think that whichever way it's done, there are aspects where we'll look at it and we'll feel that for ourselves, we don't really see it that way.

For example, when we get to third base, if Alex Rodriguez is ranked among the top few, maybe even #1 all time, my eye will just skip ahead to the next guy, for more reasons than one, but mainly because of essentially the kind of thing that Steven wrote about: I don't really consider him "a third baseman." (BTW/FWIW, he had slightly more games and innings at shortstop but I'd be saying the same even if it were the reverse.) Similarly to what Steven said about what his comment isn't intended to be, I don't mean this as any lobbying for A-Rod not to be ranked as a third baseman, just giving this as an example. And, more in line with what Steven said, if A-Rod is ranked as a shortstop and if his years at third base are included in his data, I won't really count that either.

You can't make everybody happy when you do a system; you just do the system how you best see fit, and it is what it is. If someone came up with a metric system to rank presidents (and they probably do have those), there might not be anybody except the maker of the system who would nod at all the results, and maybe not even him. Especially if the metric also included the presidents' value as actor or real estate guy or haberdasher. :-)

And even about the "multi-position" thing: That's problematic too. It's a comparison among a whole lot of different apples and oranges. To me, the only reasonable meaning for "multi-position" and the only meaningful rankings would be if it meant the kinds of players that Shthar mentioned, the Zobrist-Tony Phillips kind of guys. Killebrew got around the diamond enough that I think he could truly be described as multi-position, but that's not the same kind of "multi-position," is it? It's more like just the same phrase being used in different ways. And when the term is applied to guys who just played first base and the outfield, or worse yet when it's applied to guys who just played different outfield positions (yeah, I've seen that done), come on. :-)

Again, no criticism intended for how it's being done here, just pointing out that inevitably there are issues.
6:53 PM Jan 6th
 
Steven Goldleaf
Which brings up a slight semantic problem, or a logistical problem, or some kind of problem, which is "Can you have a designation as the best, or second-best, player at a position when he earned a goodly number points in years NOT playing that position?" Musial, for example, played other positions that get folded into his ranking at 1B--can we really call him the fifth best (or whatever--didn't look it up) 1Bman when he didn't accrue so many of his points at 1B? I guess I'm asking (ASKING, Bill, not telling you that you screwed up in making this executive decision). if a purer way to do this would be to do what you did in the Historical Abstract, designating players like Rose and Killebrew (and I'd add Musial and Banks and Carew and Yount and so many others) as multi-positional stars rather than force them into a position that they didn't play a huge chunk of their careers? That creates other problems, maybe worse ones, but it seems odd to make Musial an infielder to me. Problem only gets worse when we get to the OF, where guys got shuttled around depending on their managers' whims, their teammates in a given year, their ability to handle CF (loss of speed, or RF, loss of throwing ability). I wonder who is hardest to place at any one OF position. Also wondering if these charts can be fairly compared to each other--that is, to make a master chart regardless of position, or if there's some factor that prevents a non-positional ranking.
3:34 PM Jan 6th
 
shthar
I'm waiting for the article about guys like Tony Phillips, Gil McDougald and Zobrist.
2:00 PM Jan 6th
 
MarisFan61
I don't think it's particularly a principle that a team needs at least 1 player with WAA of 4 to be a pennant winner.
BTW I don't mean just that it isn't 100% true; I mean that I don't think it's a useful guide. (I wouldn't doubt, though, that most pennant teams have such a player.)

I looked at some pennant teams that I wondered about; granted, it's 'cherry picking' in that I chose teams that I thought there was reason to doubt there was such a player, and it wasn't hard to find ones that didn't.

First team I looked at was the '62 Yanks, since I knew that Mantle missed about 40 games (still won the MVP).
Well, Mick still had a WAA of 4.4, despite missing all those games.
The next year, though -- both he and Maris missed a lot of the year, and the highest WAA for any Yankee was Elston Howard's 3.6. (Next highest: 2.5, Maris)

And I've got even better. I was surprised to find how much better.
The '96 Yanks were famous for having "no stars," which I don't consider true, but it was a well enough balanced team that I figured they might well not have had any player with a WAA of 4.
The highest WAA was 1.9. (Bernie Williams)

2000 Yankees: Posada, 3.3
2001 Yankees: Bernie, 3.0

Again, I don't disagree that most pennant teams have a 4 WAA player. But I don't think this is much of a useful guidepost when looking for characteristics of pennant winning teams.
11:27 AM Jan 6th
 
KaiserD2
With rare exceptions, the players I have found to have 5 seasons of 4 WAA or more (superstar seasons) are in the Hall of Fame. Many players with 4 such season are in, many are not.

Among the relatively recent second basemen:

Carew 5
Morgan 5
Sandberg 5
Grich 4
Cano 4
Alomar 3
Brett Boone 2
Ian Kinsler 2
Kent 2

Grich and Cano, in y opinion, definitely belong in teh Hall of Fame.

Neither Randolph, Whitaker or White ever had any such seasons.

4 WAA, by the way, is the numerical answer to Bill's great question in the Keltner test, "If this guy were the best player on your team, could you win the pennant?" Very few teams have won pennants without one player that good.

DK







8:45 AM Jan 6th
 
hotstatrat
Thanks, Maris, for the look up. As you gathered, I meant "obnoxious" flippantly - didn't even remember it was Tommy John. McAuliffe was not only a hero on "my team", but he was from my home state: Connecticut. So, naturally, he was in the right - even though I knew it was wrong and childish to hit somebody. (Although, it became impossible to defend Denny McLain's actions.) In fact, McAuliffe's nephew was a high school classmate - and he was a little obnoxious. But then, so was I in a different way, I'm sure.
10:32 PM Jan 5th
 
MarisFan61
About Pedroia coming in at #31:
It's fun to take the Win Share figures of recent players and see where they 'slot in' in Bill's rankings in the New Historical Abstract, by the method that he uses in the book.
(i.e. combined consideration of career total Win Shares, best 3 years, and best 5-yr run)
Usually it's not hard to get a pretty good idea of where they fall.

Taking into account that there are some other recent players who would be sneaking in there, it looks like Pedroia's ranking by that system would be higher than #31 but not far from it. Ignoring the other recent players, I think he'd be around #24; with them in there, probably somewhere between 25 and 27.
BTW Kinsler shows similarly to him by this. You could argue for either one; I'd put Pedroia as the higher one.
FYI here are the numbers for Pedroia. (Not official, just by my 'eyeballing' and you know how accurate that is :-) ....I'd welcome anyone to check on it. I'm using the data that's on this site.)
Career total Win Shares so far: 216
Best 3 years: 27, 26, 25
Best 5-yr run: 107
9:59 PM Jan 5th
 
MarisFan61
Hotstatrat: About "obnoxious," I don't know.... :-)
Not characteristically about that guy anyway.

That thing you said about McAuliffe and the "obnoxious opposing player," I had to 'Tracer' it, and it wasn't hard to find out what and who it was.

Here's the story: (the link might not work directly; if not, I think copy/paste will work)
https://www.detroitathletic.com/blog/2015/04/08/the-night-dick-mcauliffe-separated-tommy​-johns-shoulder/

It was Tommy John.
9:17 PM Jan 5th
 
tampabob
Speaking of sparkplugs, Pedroia's 31st ranking surprised me. I wouldn't have expected him to be grouped with Kinsler and Michael Young, and far behind Cano. I guess the MVP award, Gold Gloves, All Star and post season appearances, along with his old school approach, elevate perceptions above the pure metrics.
8:59 PM Jan 5th
 
wovenstrap
Also I would add that (as in life), Whitaker got a little lost in there somewhere. He's got to be the best player who didn't make Bill's summary list at the end there. He was hovering around the top for quite a while there, between Morgan and Sandberg....
12:59 PM Jan 5th
 
wovenstrap
Just wanted to echo what ksclacktc said. It's quite amazing that a player as good as Frank White could just barely crack these lists. I was 15 years old in 1985, so maybe I was late to the party, but he was one of those guys who, especially in the second half of his career, would just impress you all the time. And also very often with a smile on his face.

I just googled him to check on something and was pleased to learn that he's done well in Kansas politics since retirement. He is the Jackson County Executive. Good for him.
12:53 PM Jan 5th
 
chuck
I was also looking for Frank White's name to appear somewhere. Bad timing to be playing when so many fine 2nd basemen were playing- or, good timing for Maz.
Bill, you've made the comparison between White and Mazeroski previously; what is the average Value number for each?
9:57 AM Jan 5th
 
hotstatrat
Dick McAuliffe was also outstanding at avoiding the double play - he tied what was in his day the record for a regular avoiding it.

In those days, sportswriters pronounced the term "sparkplug" upon the scrappiest speediest player on a auccessful team. No one on the '68 champion Tigers was speedy, but McAuliffe was clearly their sparkplug. In August of that season, McAuliffe was suspended four or five days for punching an obnoxious opposing player. Detroit was 81-45 at the time - on pace for 104 wins. Without their sparkplug, they stuttered to a four game losing streak - the worse of their season. They immediately came back to their dominating ways when McAuliffe returned.
9:43 AM Jan 5th
 
jaybracken
Always felt so bad for Utley, having two teammates win the MVP in back-to-back years, when Utley was better than them each year. (Pujols probably should have won both years anyway, but that's a whole other thing)
8:24 AM Jan 5th
 
ksclacktc
I'm completely shocked at the fact that Frank White is almost completely absent!
7:47 AM Jan 5th
 
tigerlily
I'm enjoying this series Bill; but, I want to respond to a comment you made regarding Chase Utley. You mentioned Utley's season when he stole 23 bases without being caught and said you believe he's the only player ever to do that. In reading that, I dimly remembered that Kevin McReynolds had a season when stole 20 some odd bases without a CS. With that in mind I went to the Play Index at Baseball-Reference and found that there are 5 players from 1960-2017 who have had a season with 20 or more SB and 0 CS. Here's the list;

Alicedes Escobar KCR 2013 22 SB 0 CS Age 26 Career SB/CS = 146/42

Quinton Berry 2012 21 SB 0 CS Age 27 Career SB/CS = 29/2 (I'd never heard of Quinton Berry before this)

Chase Utley PHI 2009 23 SB 0 CS Age 30 Career SB/CS = 151/21

Paul Molitor TOR 1994 20 SB 0 CS Age 37 (!) Career SB/CS = 504/131

Kevin McReynolds NYM 1988 21 SB 0 CS Age 28 Career SB/CS = 93/32
6:24 AM Jan 5th
 
3for3
Is the study about pennants with Ruth /Alomar published?
6:21 AM Jan 5th
 
 
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