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May 28, 2013

            I recently had the following question in "Hey, Bill":

Bill --If you were to take the average player's rookie season (i.e., the season that the player last qualified for ROTY award), how much improvement will there be by that player's peak season? Is it anything like useful to make a remark like, "Player X has 15 WS in his rookie year--we can expect him, on average, to have a peak season at some point of 25 WS"? If one season isn't enough, at what point  would we have enough seasons to make a useful general prediction as to eventual peak? After 1500 PA, say?

 

                To which I replied, at the time:

 

Any answer you could give, I think you'd have to give with numerous qualifications, but let me see what I can do.    First, let's exclude pitchers, since a very high percentage of rookie pitchers are unable to sustain the workload, and basically burn out after one season.    Second, we'd have to exclude players who get a full shot as a rookie, but don't truly establish the level of ability necessary to keep a job.  

 

From that point on, you'd get very different answers from a 21-year-old rookie than from a 25-year-old rookie.   I'll try to do some relevant research and edit this answer later on.

 

 

Ok, I have done some research here, so let me report on that. . .I thought the question was worthy of a little work.    I have a spreadsheet of career records. ..a kind of a "spreadsheet encyclopedia" that I use for projects like this.   I took that file, and eliminated from it:

 

1)  All players who played before 1950 (even one game before 1950), and

2)  Players who have played since 2011 (2011, 2012 or 2013), since those player may not yet have complete careers.

3)  All players who played less than 800 games in their careers.

 

This third elimination creates a major selection bias in the data, which makes these players who are studied here quite different from all rookies, and limits our ability to generalize what we learn from doing this.   (On the other hand, not restricting the study group would cause other problems which, in my judgment, would be much worse, so. . ..six of one, half-dozen of the other.    Doing the study this way, you learn quite a bit but you can’t generalize it reliably because of the selection bias.   Doing the study the other way you wouldn’t learn anything to begin with.)  

 

Anyway, I limited the data to players who played 800 games, so. . Al Weis is in, Rick Leach is out.   You have to draw a line somewhere.   To illustrate what I have done, let’s take all players who were rookies at the age of 18.

Since 1950 there have been three players who played 800 games and whose last rookie season was at age 18:   Wayne Causey (1955), Ed Kranepool (1963) and Robin Yount (1974).     This is what those three players did in their first seasons:

 

 

First

Last

YEAR

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

Wayne

Causey

1955

68

175

14

34

2

1

1

9

17

25

0

1

.194

.269

.234

.504

Ed

Kranepool

1963

86

273

22

57

12

2

2

14

18

50

4

2

.209

.256

.289

.545

Robin

Yount

1974

107

344

48

86

14

5

3

26

12

46

7

7

.250

.273

.346

.619

 

 

                And here is that with the average performance of the three:

 

First

Last

YEAR

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

Wayne

Causey

1955

68

175

14

34

2

1

1

9

17

25

0

1

.194

.269

.234

.504

Ed

Kranepool

1963

86

273

22

57

12

2

2

14

18

50

4

2

.209

.256

.289

.545

Robin

Yount

1974

107

344

48

86

14

5

3

26

12

46

7

7

.250

.273

.346

.619

                                     
   

1964

87

264

28

59

9

3

2

16

16

40

4

3

.223

.266

.302

.568

 

 

                On average, the 18-year-olds hit .223 with a .568 OPS in their rookie season.      In their second seasons, they improved to an average of .255 with a .667 OPS:

 

First

Last

YEAR

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

Wayne

Causey

1956

53

88

7

15

0

1

1

4

8

23

0

0

.170

.237

.227

.464

Ed

Kranepool

1964

119

420

47

108

19

4

10

45

32

50

0

1

.257

.310

.393

.703

Robin

Yount

1975

147

558

67

149

28

2

8

52

33

69

12

4

.267

.307

.367

.674

                                     
   

1965

106

355

40

91

16

2

6

34

24

47

4

2

.255

.301

.366

.667

 

                They relapsed a little in their third seasons:

 

First

Last

YEAR

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

Wayne

Causey

1957

14

10

2

2

0

0

0

1

5

2

0

0

.200

.471

.200

.671

Ed

Kranepool

1965

153

525

44

133

24

4

10

53

39

71

1

4

.253

.303

.371

.675

Robin

Yount

1976

161

638

59

161

19

3

2

54

38

69

16

11

.252

.292

.301

.593

                                     
   

1966

109

391

35

99

14

2

4

36

27

47

6

5

.252

.301

.332

.632

 

                Here we have a choice. .. here I had a choice, actually; you are pretty much stuck with the choices that I made.    Wayne Causey was a Bonus Baby with the Baltimore Orioles in ’55 and ’56.    The rules of the time required that a player getting a decent bonus had to spend two years on the major league roster (to discourage the signing of players to large bonuses), but after two years the player could go out to the minor leagues.    Causey spent his two seasons with the Orioles, then went to do his minor league work, and did not play in the majors in 1958, 1959 or 1960, just becausey.    

                I could, then, have grouped Causey’s next major league season either as his fourth major league season, third season after the rookie season, or as his age-24 season, grouping him with Kranepool in 1969 and Yount in 1980.    I decided to group him with other players playing their fourth season, third season after the rookie year.    It doesn’t ordinarily matter much, because most players don’t have three-year gaps in their careers, and the results you would get from grouping them one way would be essentially the same as the results you would get from grouping them the other way, but. . .. this is the way I chose to do it.  

 

                So this is what these three players did in their fourth seasons, and in several seasons following that:

 

First

Last

YEAR

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

Wayne

Causey

1961

104

312

37

86

14

1

8

49

37

28

0

0

.276

.348

.404

.752

Ed

Kranepool

1966

146

464

51

118

15

2

16

57

41

66

1

1

.254

.316

.399

.715

Robin

Yount

1977

154

605

66

174

34

4

4

49

41

80

16

7

.288

.333

.377

.710

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 4

1968

135

460

51

126

21

2

9

52

40

58

6

3

.274

.329

.390

.720

                                     

Wayne

Causey

1962

117

305

40

77

14

1

4

38

41

30

2

0

.252

.340

.344

.684

Ed

Kranepool

1967

141

469

37

126

17

1

10

54

37

51

0

4

.269

.321

.373

.694

Robin

Yount

1978

127

502

66

147

23

9

9

71

24

43

16

5

.293

.323

.428

.752

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 5

1969

128

425

48

117

18

4

8

54

34

41

6

3

.274

.325

.388

.713

                                     

Wayne

Causey

1963

139

554

72

155

32

4

8

44

56

54

4

2

.280

.345

.395

.740

Ed

Kranepool

1968

127

373

29

86

13

1

3

20

19

39

0

3

.231

.271

.295

.566

Robin

Yount

1979

149

577

72

154

26

5

8

51

35

52

11

8

.267

.308

.371

.679

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 6

1970

138

501

58

132

24

3

6

38

37

48

5

4

.263

.309

.361

.670

                                     

Wayne

Causey

1964

157

604

82

170

31

4

8

49

88

65

0

1

.281

.377

.386

.763

Ed

Kranepool

1969

112

353

36

84

9

2

11

49

37

32

3

2

.238

.307

.368

.675

Robin

Yount

1980

143

611

121

179

49

10

23

87

26

67

20

5

.293

.321

.519

.840

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 7

1971

137

523

80

144

30

5

14

62

50

55

8

3

.276

.341

.434

.774

 

 

                In Year 7 these three players averaged .276 with 14 homers, 62 RBI, 80 runs scored and a .774 OPS—a long step forward from what they had done at age 18:

 

First

Last

YEAR

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

AVERAGE

Year 1

1964

87

264

28

59

9

3

2

16

16

40

4

3

.223

.266

.302

.568

AVERAGE

Year 7

1971

137

523

80

144

30

5

14

62

50

55

8

3

.276

.341

.434

.774

 

                Of course, a cadre of three players doesn’t really mean anything; I’m just using this small group to illustrate the process.     These three, driven by Yount, actually continued to improve their OPS past the 7th season, although their playing time began to decline:

 

First

Last

YEAR

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

Wayne

Causey

1965

144

513

48

134

17

8

3

34

61

48

1

3

.261

.341

.343

.684

Ed

Kranepool

1970

43

47

2

8

0

0

0

3

5

2

0

0

.170

.250

.170

.420

Robin

Yount

1981

96

377

50

103

15

5

10

49

22

37

4

1

.273

.312

.419

.731

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 8

1972

94

312

33

82

11

4

4

29

29

29

2

1

.261

.323

.365

.688

                                     

Wayne

Causey

1966

106

243

24

58

8

2

0

18

31

19

3

0

.239

.318

.288

.606

Ed

Kranepool

1971

122

421

61

118

20

4

14

58

38

33

0

4

.280

.340

.447

.786

Robin

Yount

1982

156

635

129

210

46

12

29

114

54

63

14

3

.331

.379

.578

.957

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 9

1973

128

433

71

129

25

6

14

63

41

38

6

2

.297

.356

.481

.837

                                     

Wayne

Causey

1967

124

292

21

66

10

3

1

28

32

35

2

5

.226

.302

.291

.593

Ed

Kranepool

1972

122

327

28

88

15

1

8

34

34

35

1

0

.269

.336

.394

.731

Robin

Yount

1983

149

578

102

178

42

10

17

80

72

58

12

5

.308

.383

.503

.886

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 10

1974

132

399

50

111

22

5

9

47

46

43

5

3

.277

.352

.422

.774

                                     

Wayne

Causey

1968

79

148

10

22

2

1

1

11

14

12

0

0

.149

.223

.196

.419

Ed

Kranepool

1973

100

284

28

68

12

2

1

35

30

28

1

0

.239

.310

.306

.616

Robin

Yount

1984

160

624

105

186

27

7

16

80

67

67

14

4

.298

.362

.441

.803

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 11

1975

113

352

48

92

14

3

6

42

37

36

5

1

.261

.331

.370

.701

 

                After year 11 Wayne Causey dropped out of the majors.    After this, then, we are comparing apples with fewer apples.    After that it is no longer a comparison of a consistent group of players:

 

First

Last

YEAR

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

Ed

Kranepool

1974

94

217

20

65

11

1

4

24

18

14

1

0

.300

.350

.415

.765

Robin

Yount

1985

122

466

76

129

26

3

15

68

49

56

10

4

.277

.342

.442

.784

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 12

1980

108

342

48

97

19

2

10

46

34

35

6

2

.284

.349

.433

.783

                                     

Ed

Kranepool

1975

106

325

42

105

16

0

4

43

27

21

1

1

.323

.370

.409

.779

Robin

Yount

1986

140

522

82

163

31

7

9

46

62

73

14

5

.312

.388

.450

.838

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 13

1981

123

424

62

134

24

4

7

45

45

47

8

3

.316

.382

.434

.816

                                     

Ed

Kranepool

1976

123

415

47

121

17

1

10

49

35

38

1

0

.292

.344

.410

.754

Robin

Yount

1987

158

635

99

198

25

9

21

103

76

94

19

9

.312

.384

.479

.862

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 14

1982

141

525

73

160

21

5

16

76

56

66

10

5

.304

.368

.451

.820

                                     

Ed

Kranepool

1977

108

281

28

79

17

0

10

40

23

20

1

4

.281

.330

.448

.778

Robin

Yount

1988

162

621

92

190

38

11

13

91

63

63

22

4

.306

.369

.465

.834

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 15

1983

135

451

60

135

28

6

12

66

43

42

12

4

.298

.361

.460

.821

                                     

Ed

Kranepool

1978

66

81

7

17

2

0

3

19

8

12

0

0

.210

.280

.346

.625

Robin

Yount

1989

160

614

101

195

38

9

21

103

63

71

19

3

.318

.384

.511

.896

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 16

1984

113

348

54

106

20

5

12

61

36

42

10

2

.305

.374

.492

.866

                                     

Ed

Kranepool

1979

82

155

7

36

5

0

2

17

13

18

0

1

.232

.287

.303

.591

Robin

Yount

1990

158

587

98

145

17

5

17

77

78

89

15

8

.247

.337

.380

.717

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 17

1985

120

371

53

91

11

3

10

47

46

54

8

5

.244

.331

.364

.694

 

                The Group Average OPS goes all the way up to .866 in the 16th season, but of course there is no valid comparison to the earlier averages, because the "group" is not the same as it was, and 80% of the playing time in the Year-16 group is accounted for by Robin Yount.     After Year 17 Yount is all that is left of this group of three players:

 

First

Last

YEAR

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

Robin

Yount

1991

130

503

66

131

20

4

10

77

54

79

6

4

.260

.332

.376

.707

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 18

1991

130

503

66

131

20

4

10

77

54

79

6

4

.260

.332

.376

.707

                                     
                                     

Robin

Yount

1992

150

557

71

147

40

3

8

77

53

81

15

6

.264

.325

.390

.714

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 19

1992

150

557

71

147

40

3

8

77

53

81

15

6

.264

.325

.390

.714

                                     
                                     

Robin

Yount

1993

127

454

62

117

25

3

8

51

44

93

9

2

.258

.326

.379

.705

                                     

AVERAGE

Year 20

1993

127

454

62

117

25

3

8

51

44

93

9

2

.258

.326

.379

.705

 

                OK; that’s just to explain the process of the research, make sure you understand the flaws and limitations of the method.     Now we can get to the real research.   

 

                First, let’s look at the number of players who are rookies at each age:

 

Number of Players

Rookie Age

3

18

11

19

48

20

111

21

172

22

202

23

212

24

135

25

67

26

26

27

12

28

5

29

2

30

 

                The peak age for rookiedom, in this study, is age 24.    This study would skew slightly younger than all rookies, because we are only studying players who had careers of 800 games or more.   If we included players who had shorter careers, more of them would have had their rookie seasons at ages 25 and up.   But among players who go on to good careers, the peak rookie ages are 23 and 24.  

 

                As to the quality of the rookies, the highest quality is for the youngest players.     Among 19-year-old rookies, there are only 11 players in the group, but three of those are in the Hall of Fame (Mickey Mantle, Bill Mazeroski and Al Kaline), and a fourth will be (Ken Griffey, Jr.)    A fifth, Tony Congiliaro, would be in the Hall of Fame if he hadn’t gotten hurt and/or sick, and two others, Rusty Staub and Cesar Cedeno, had careers of near-Hall of Fame stature.    Alex Rodriguez was a rookie at age 19, but he’s not in this data because he is still active.   Players who play regularly at a very early age are generally exceptional players.     This chart counts the number of Hall of Famers, by their ages as rookies:

 

Number of Players

Rookie Age

Hall of Famers

Percentage

3

18

1

33%

11

19

3

27%

48

20

12

25%

111

21

10

9%

172

22

7

4%

202

23

8

4%

212

24

2

1%

135

25

0

0%

67

26

0

0%

26

27

0

0%

12

28

0

0%

5

29

0

0%

2

30

0

0%

 

                One-third of players who are rookies at ages 18 through 20 either are in the Hall of Fame or will be one day.     That percentage drops sharply after age 20.  

 

                Turning our attention now to the question posed by the reader, which is the rate of improvement which may be anticipated from a group of rookies.  . . .this chart summarizes the material given earlier, for the 18-year-old rookies:

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 18

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

3

1

87

264

28

59

9

3

2

16

16

40

4

3

.223

.266

.302

.568

3

2

106

355

40

91

16

2

6

34

24

47

4

2

.255

.301

.366

.667

3

3

109

391

35

99

14

2

4

36

27

47

6

5

.252

.301

.332

.632

3

4

135

460

51

126

21

2

9

52

40

58

6

3

.274

.329

.390

.720

3

5

128

425

48

117

18

4

8

54

34

41

6

3

.274

.325

.388

.713

3

6

138

501

58

132

24

3

6

38

37

48

5

4

.263

.309

.361

.670

3

7

137

523

80

144

30

5

14

62

50

55

8

3

.276

.341

.434

.774

3

8

94

312

33

82

11

4

4

29

29

29

2

1

.261

.323

.365

.688

3

9

128

433

71

129

25

6

14

63

41

38

6

2

.297

.356

.481

.837

3

10

132

399

50

111

22

5

9

47

46

43

5

3

.277

.352

.422

.774

3

11

113

352

48

92

14

3

6

42

37

36

5

1

.261

.331

.370

.701

2

12

108

342

48

97

19

2

10

46

34

35

6

2

.284

.349

.433

.783

2

13

123

424

62

134

24

4

7

45

45

47

8

3

.316

.382

.434

.816

2

14

141

525

73

160

21

5

16

76

56

66

10

5

.304

.368

.451

.820

2

15

135

451

60

135

28

6

12

66

43

42

12

4

.298

.361

.460

.821

2

16

113

348

54

106

20

5

12

61

36

42

10

2

.305

.374

.492

.866

2

17

120

371

53

91

11

3

10

47

46

54

8

5

.244

.331

.364

.694

1

18

130

503

66

131

20

4

10

77

54

79

6

4

.260

.336

.376

.712

1

19

150

557

71

147

40

3

8

77

53

81

15

6

.264

.329

.390

.719

1

20

127

454

62

117

25

3

8

51

44

93

9

2

.258

.327

.379

.706

 

 

                Here is the parallel data for the 19-year-old rookies—the group including Mantle, Kaline, Griffey, Cedeno, Staub, etc.:

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 19

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

11

1

103

339

39

88

14

3

7

35

27

52

6

4

.260

.317

.378

.694

11

2

113

412

61

119

20

4

13

56

36

60

10

5

.288

.346

.453

.799

11

3

125

434

63

122

22

4

15

67

46

66

13

6

.282

.351

.456

.808

11

4

121

434

65

124

21

4

15

65

41

63

11

5

.285

.347

.457

.804

11

5

139

483

68

136

24

4

17

69

57

70

10

5

.281

.358

.455

.813

11

6

142

509

80

149

25

3

21

78

59

70

11

5

.293

.368

.478

.847

11

7

132

461

65

128

21

4

16

61

61

61

12

4

.277

.363

.443

.805

11

8

126

446

70

121

20

4

17

64

58

65

13

4

.271

.356

.448

.804

10

9

120

442

71

125

20

4

20

68

48

64

11

3

.283

.356

.481

.836

10

10

124

441

67

121

20

3

17

64

49

60

11

4

.274

.348

.451

.800

10

11

136

474

71

133

21

4

21

77

63

66

12

4

.281

.367

.474

.841

10

12

116

384

56

102

16

2

15

56

53

51

5

2

.266

.356

.433

.789

9

13

119

389

52

106

20

1

13

55

46

52

5

4

.272

.352

.434

.787

9

14

108

356

48

97

17

1

13

55

49

51

5

3

.273

.363

.439

.802

8

15

102

347

46

94

17

1

12

49

37

48

6

2

.271

.343

.433

.776

7

16

111

377

49

103

16

1

16

59

42

53

5

2

.273

.348

.448

.796

7

17

89

284

38

74

13

1

12

41

43

47

1

1

.260

.358

.444

.802

4

18

124

402

58

108

19

1

17

59

67

63

3

2

.269

.376

.450

.826

3

19

107

322

44

95

15

1

15

49

45

48

3

0

.294

.382

.485

.867

3

20

115

340

39

85

17

0

10

48

44

42

1

1

.249

.338

.394

.731

3

21

123

353

40

88

18

1

12

50

47

55

1

1

.248

.338

.401

.739

2

22

56

85

4

19

3

0

1

13

7

13

0

0

.218

.273

.271

.544

1

23

54

45

2

12

3

0

1

8

10

4

0

0

.267

.400

.400

.800

 

 

                Again, we can see that these players had a 150-point increase in OPS over their first six seasons, but we are still dealing with a very small group of players.    As the groups get bigger, of course, the year-to-year data stabilizes.  

 

                In our data there are 48 players who were rookies at age 20.   Twelve of those were Hall of Famers as well:   Eddie Mathews, Roberto Clemente, Willie Mays, Ron Santo, Orlando Cepeda, Harmon Killebrew, Frank Robinson, Hank Aaron, Brooks Robinson, Johnny Bench, Rickey Henderson and Roberto Alomar.    Several of the other 36 were near-Hall of Famers or will be Hall of Famers, like Joe Torre, Gary Sheffield and Ted Simmons.    This chart summarizes the average performance by year of service of players who are rookies at the age of 20:

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 20

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

48

1

96

330

42

87

15

3

8

35

28

50

6

4

.262

.320

.396

.716

48

2

120

430

57

119

19

4

11

51

34

61

11

6

.276

.330

.415

.745

48

3

122

425

58

115

19

4

13

54

39

60

8

4

.271

.332

.429

.761

48

4

138

502

74

143

23

5

17

69

48

67

12

6

.286

.349

.453

.802

48

5

142

523

75

145

24

5

16

68

52

72

15

6

.277

.343

.433

.776

48

6

134

491

72

138

23

5

17

70

50

65

12

5

.282

.349

.450

.799

48

7

132

480

70

132

22

4

16

66

50

66

12

5

.276

.346

.441

.786

48

8

132

472

70

133

22

3

18

69

51

62

10

4

.281

.352

.455

.807

48

9

135

485

69

133

22

4

16

68

54

66

9

5

.274

.348

.431

.779

46

10

127

447

66

127

22

2

16

66

51

60

9

4

.285

.360

.450

.810

45

11

127

444

63

123

21

3

16

64

50

61

7

3

.277

.351

.443

.794

43

12

122

422

62

118

20

3

16

62

50

62

7

3

.279

.356

.454

.810

40

13

115

386

56

105

18

2

15

57

46

57

7

3

.274

.353

.448

.801

37

14

112

377

55

106

17

2

15

58

45

52

6

2

.282

.361

.461

.822

36

15

106

350

49

94

15

2

13

48

42

47

5

2

.269

.349

.432

.781

31

16

106

343

47

93

15

2

12

49

43

47

5

2

.271

.353

.429

.782

24

17

95

295

39

78

13

2

10

44

36

42

4

2

.265

.346

.423

.769

16

18

100

309

45

84

14

1

11

48

40

48

4

1

.272

.360

.435

.795

12

19

110

343

52

86

13

1

14

47

52

54

7

2

.250

.352

.411

.763

10

20

87

270

41

65

10

1

13

40

48

52

10

2

.240

.357

.426

.782

6

21

80

234

37

64

12

1

9

32

39

37

7

3

.275

.380

.446

.826

3

22

109

365

48

84

13

1

7

39

62

58

12

4

.229

.343

.334

.676

2

23

104

325

46

74

13

2

9

39

58

61

13

4

.228

.347

.358

.706

1

24

72

179

40

40

6

1

5

16

38

47

8

2

.223

.371

.352

.723

1

25

30

72

7

15

1

0

2

5

11

16

3

0

.208

.321

.306

.627

 

 

                These players started with an OPS of .716, and improved that over the next three seasons to the range of .800.    Let’s focus on the strikeout and walk data:

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 20

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

BB per 100 Ks

48

1

 

330

           

28

50

       

56

 

48

2

 

430

           

34

61

       

56

 

48

3

 

425

           

39

60

       

64

 

48

4

 

502

           

48

67

       

71

 

48

5

 

523

           

52

72

       

72

 

48

6

 

491

           

50

65

       

76

 

48

7

 

480

           

50

66

       

76

 

48

8

 

472

           

51

62

       

82

 

48

9

 

485

           

54

66

       

82

 

46

10

 

447

           

51

60

       

84

 

45

11

 

444

           

50

61

       

81

 

43

12

 

422

           

50

62

       

81

 

40

13

 

386

           

46

57

       

81

 

37

14

 

377

           

45

52

       

87

 

36

15

 

350

           

42

47

       

89

 

31

16

 

343

           

43

47

       

90

 

24

17

 

295

           

36

42

       

85

 

16

18

 

309

           

40

48

       

84

 

12

19

 

343

           

52

54

       

97

 

10

20

 

270

           

48

52

       

92

 

6

21

 

234

           

39

37

       

107

 

3

22

 

365

           

62

58

       

107

 

2

23

 

325

           

58

61

       

95

 

1

24

 

179

           

38

47

       

81

 

1

25

 

72

           

11

16

       

69

 

 

                We can see that the strikeout to walk ratio of a group of players continues to improve as long as the entire group stays together.     After 9 years the group is changing, as players drop out of the league, but even after that, in the data that we have, the strikeout/walk ratio of the group continues to improve, although that effect could be caused by the players who have poorer strikeout/walk ratios dropping out, while the players who have good strikeout/walk ratios may stay in the league.   But we can see in this group—and you can see in the other groups—that the strikeout/walk ratio continues to improve as long as we are able to study it.

 

                The players who were rookies at age 21 include ten Hall of Famers:   Carl Yastrzemski, Paul Molitor, Dave Winfield, Joe Morgan, Cal Ripken, Eddie Murray, George Brett, Rod Carew, Willie McCovey and Gary Carter.    There are 111 players in this group, however, so the Hall of Famers are "only" 9% of the group.    Other outstanding players who had their rookie seasons at age 21 include Barry Bonds, Tim Raines, Lou Whitaker, Dwight Evans, Harold Baines, Willie Randolph, and Keith Hernandez.     The group also includes, however, Jamie Quirk, Jerry Hairston, Dale Berra, Darrel Chaney, Alex Trevino, Rowland Office and John Ellis.    Whereas the group of players who were rookies at age 20 averaged 1900 hits in the majors (1914, actually), 235 homers and an .827 OPS, those who were rookies at age 21 averaged 1500 hits (1518, actually), 163 homers and a .779 OPS.     I’ll chart those averages at the end of the article.   This is the average performance, by year of career, of the players who were rookies at age 21:

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 21

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

111

1

104

341

43

89

14

3

7

36

31

55

7

4

.260

.322

.381

.703

111

2

115

395

51

105

18

4

10

46

37

61

8

4

.265

.328

.402

.731

111

3

122

424

58

115

20

4

12

52

44

64

9

4

.272

.341

.417

.758

111

4

126

440

60

119

21

4

12

55

46

64

10

5

.270

.339

.413

.752

111

5

130

460

66

126

22

4

14

61

48

66

11

5

.274

.343

.430

.774

111

6

130

454

63

124

21

4

13

59

49

64

10

5

.273

.344

.424

.769

111

7

124

429

60

116

20

3

13

56

48

61

8

4

.269

.345

.421

.766

111

8

120

412

57

112

20

3

12

53

47

59

8

4

.272

.347

.420

.767

109

9

115

391

53

105

19

2

12

51

44

55

7

3

.269

.344

.419

.763

101

10

115

388

54

107

19

2

12

53

46

53

7

4

.274

.353

.428

.780

89

11

120

403

55

109

20

2

12

56

49

58

7

3

.271

.352

.420

.772

83

12

112

366

51

99

17

2

12

52

47

52

6

3

.270

.355

.424

.778

75

13

104

337

45

87

15

2

11

46

41

51

5

3

.259

.342

.410

.752

62

14

96

300

42

79

14

2

9

42

38

44

4

2

.264

.350

.414

.764

50

15

99

318

44

86

16

1

10

44

40

45

5

2

.269

.353

.422

.775

39

16

97

301

44

84

14

2

11

46

42

42

4

2

.278

.368

.443

.811

27

17

105

332

48

95

17

1

11

48

46

42

4

2

.287

.375

.447

.822

19

18

103

345

48

94

18

1

12

50

46

48

5

2

.273

.361

.439

.800

15

19

115

380

57

110

20

2

14

61

58

50

5

2

.288

.385

.460

.845

12

20

105

364

45

98

18

1

13

56

37

50

3

2

.268

.336

.428

.764

8

21

99

299

38

76

14

1

10

45

44

42

2

1

.255

.353

.407

.760

5

22

77

222

30

55

10

0

9

33

45

34

1

0

.248

.379

.422

.801

1

23

119

380

38

101

24

0

10

56

54

29

0

0

.266

.360

.408

.768

 

 

                The one player in that group who played into his 23rd season was Yastrzemski, while McCovey, Winfield, Baines and Bonds all made it to 22 seasons.    Players who are rookies at age 21 have an average increase in OPS, over the following four seasons, of about 70 points.    Here again, we see the consistent improvements in control of the strike zone as long as we are able to track that.

 

                Among the 172 players in our group who were rookies at the age of 22, the seven Hall of Famers are Tony Gwynn, Luis Aparicio, Andre Dawson, Jim Rice, Barry Larkin, Reggie Jackson and Ryne Sandberg.    Other players of note who had their rookie seasons at 22 include Pete Rose, Al Oliver, Rafael Palmeiro, Steve Garvey, Frank Thomas (Big Hurt), Dave Concepcion, Chili Davis, Bernie Williams, Bert Campaneris, Don Mattingly, Dale Murphy, Will Clark, Harvey Kuenn, Reggie Smith, Amos Otis, Frank White, Willie Horton, George Scott, George Hendrick, George Foster, George Bush, George Orwell, George Patton, George Washington, George Washington Carver, George Clooney, George Custer, George McGovern, George Stephanopoulos, Bobby Bonds, Dick Allen, Robin Ventura, Rocky Colavito, Bill White, Albert Belle, and Jermaine Dye.    On the other hand, the group also included Woody Woodward, Jack Brohamer, Ken Boswell, Tim Flannery, Ed Herrmann, Daryl Boston, Russ Nixon, Tom Veryzer and Manny Lee.   This is the average performance of this group, by year:

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 22

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

172

1

102

337

44

88

14

3

8

38

29

56

7

4

.260

.320

.389

.709

172

2

114

390

52

104

17

3

9

44

35

60

10

5

.266

.328

.396

.724

172

3

122

422

58

114

20

4

11

52

39

63

12

5

.271

.334

.413

.747

172

4

129

454

63

125

21

4

13

59

42

65

11

5

.275

.338

.423

.761

172

5

131

470

66

131

23

4

14

62

46

67

11

6

.279

.346

.433

.778

172

6

131

473

68

131

23

4

14

61

47

67

12

5

.277

.344

.426

.771

172

7

126

444

62

121

21

3

13

58

45

64

11

5

.273

.341

.423

.765

169

8

118

411

57

112

19

3

12

53

43

61

8

4

.273

.345

.423

.768

165

9

116

401

55

109

19

2

12

52

41

58

8

4

.271

.342

.420

.763

161

10

113

384

53

105

19

3

12

51

39

57

7

3

.273

.343

.425

.768

142

11

108

368

50

100

17

2

10

47

37

53

7

3

.273

.342

.415

.758

121

12

104

352

46

94

17

2

10

45

36

53

6

3

.268

.339

.410

.749

95

13

102

335

46

91

16

2

10

45

36

53

6

2

.272

.344

.419

.763

74

14

111

355

47

96

18

2

10

49

37

54

5

3

.271

.342

.417

.759

58

15

105

328

43

89

16

2

10

45

35

51

5

2

.271

.344

.419

.764

43

16

92

290

37

77

14

1

9

39

28

44

4

3

.266

.333

.411

.744

28

17

90

285

35

76

14

1

8

39

27

40

3

2

.268

.335

.414

.749

19

18

97

313

39

85

17

0

8

42

34

45

3

2

.271

.344

.403

.747

12

19

76

238

31

64

10

1

6

28

26

34

2

1

.271

.346

.392

.738

4

20

98

283

33

74

13

2

5

32

28

38

3

2

.261

.331

.372

.703

1

21

151

493

52

121

14

3

0

45

52

28

7

7

.245

.319

.286

.605

1

22

121

374

43

107

15

2

0

34

40

27

1

1

.286

.357

.337

.694

1

23

119

405

60

107

12

2

2

46

86

35

8

1

.264

.397

.319

.716

1

24

72

237

15

52

8

2

0

25

30

31

3

0

.219

.317

.270

.587

 

                Here, of course, the player who lasts for 24 years is Pete Rose, and the overall improvement of the group after their rookie season is not discernibly different from that of the 21-year-olds.   

 

Dealing now with the 23-year-old rookies. . .there were 202 of these, not a single one of whom was named "George".     A lot of "Daves". . .Dave Rader, Dave Chalk, Dave Kingman, Dave Parker, Dave Anderson, Dave Henderson, Dave Hanson, Davey Johnson.    The eight Hall of Famers in the group, alphabetically, are Ernie Banks, Lou Brock, Tony Perez, Kirby Puckett, Mike Schmidt, Ozzie Smith, Willie Stargell and Billy Williams, and the group also includes the two Houston superstars who might go into the Hall of Fame, Bagwell and Biggio.    Other outstanding players are Parker, Fred McGriff, Murcer, Lynn, Oliva, Grich, Frank Howard, Nomah, Mark McGwire and Mo Vaughn, as well as Chicken Stanley, Terry Crowley, Ty Cline and Herm Winningham.    Tony Oliva’s listed age may not be correct.   This is the chart for the 23-year-old rookies:

 

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 23

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

202

1

105

341

44

89

15

3

9

40

32

59

8

4

.260

.325

.399

.724

202

2

119

391

51

103

17

3

10

47

37

63

9

4

.263

.328

.400

.728

202

3

124

419

56

113

20

3

12

52

40

66

10

5

.270

.336

.416

.752

202

4

126

430

59

116

21

3

13

55

44

69

10

5

.271

.340

.423

.764

202

5

127

431

58

116

21

3

13

56

43

69

9

4

.269

.338

.419

.757

202

6

121

404

54

109

20

3

12

54

43

63

8

4

.269

.342

.423

.764

202

7

116

387

52

103

19

3

12

52

40

61

7

4

.267

.338

.418

.757

200

8

111

363

50

97

17

2

12

50

38

59

6

3

.267

.339

.425

.764

183

9

106

348

47

94

17

2

11

47

37

56

6

3

.269

.342

.421

.763

157

10

102

331

45

89

16

2

11

45

35

53

5

3

.269

.342

.423

.765

133

11

103

332

44

89

15

2

11

46

36

54

5

2

.269

.343

.421

.764

108

12

104

327

44

88

16

2

11

46

39

53

4

3

.270

.351

.426

.777

81

13

99

315

42

84

15

2

11

45

34

52

4

2

.267

.342

.426

.769

62

14

104

333

46

89

16

2

11

48

39

55

5

2

.266

.347

.430

.777

47

15

100

324

43

85

15

1

12

46

34

56

4

2

.261

.336

.423

.759

27

16

116

372

47

97

18

2

12

52

35

60

4

2

.261

.331

.412

.743

16

17

101

338

44

88

16

1

12

46

32

54

4

2

.261

.330

.423

.754

13

18

91

273

32

68

13

1

7

32

24

46

3

2

.250

.316

.385

.701

6

19

77

231

30

60

12

1

5

27

24

41

2

1

.260

.332

.384

.717

2

20

73

105

7.5

25

5

1

3

16

11

23

0

0

.238

.307

.367

.674

1

21

72

183

25

60

8

0

6

33

22

22

0

2

.328

.400

.470

.870

1

22

77

200

14

51

12

1

2

29

25

25

0

0

.255

.338

.355

.693

 

 

                We can see, then, that as the rookies get older, they are better prepared to compete in the major leagues as rookies.     The OPS of the rookie class is .694 at age 19, .703 at age 21, .709 at age 22, .724 at age 23.     But the potential of the class is going down, with their peak OPS (for the complete group) being .847 at age 19, .807 at age 20, .778 at age 22, and .764 at age 23.    So the short answer to the reader’s query is, it depends on the rookie’s age.   If he’s 19, you can guess that he’ll have something like a 100-point growth in OPS.   If he’s an older rookie, then one’s expectations for improvement should be modest.  

 

                At age 24 we have our largest group of rookies, 212 of them.     The Hall of Famers in the group are Wade Boggs and Carlton Fisk, and the group OPS never reaches .750 as long as the whole gang is together.     Mike Piazza was a rookie at 24.    Trying to find anyone else in the group who ever won an MVP Award. . ..Ken Boyer, Ken Caminiti, Kevin Mitchell, Jackie Jensen.   I believe that is it.

 

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 24

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

212

1

100

312

40

82

13

3

7

35

27

50

6

4

.262

.322

.390

.711

212

2

116

385

51

102

18

3

9

45

36

59

8

4

.266

.329

.396

.725

212

3

120

409

55

110

18

3

10

49

38

62

9

5

.268

.332

.402

.734

212

4

127

436

59

118

20

3

12

54

41

65

9

5

.269

.334

.411

.744

212

5

123

421

56

112

20

3

11

52

41

65

9

5

.267

.333

.410

.743

212

6

124

421

57

113

20

3

11

53

41

64

8

4

.268

.335

.410

.745

211

7

118

397

53

105

19

3

10

51

40

61

6

4

.265

.335

.405

.740

208

8

114

372

49

99

18

2

11

48

38

58

6

3

.267

.337

.414

.751

198

9

104

331

45

89

17

2

10

43

34

53

5

3

.269

.339

.416

.756

170

10

105

333

44

89

16

2

10

44

36

53

4

3

.267

.341

.413

.754

145

11

98

304

40

80

15

1

9

40

32

48

4

2

.264

.337

.411

.748

117

12

94

287

38

75

14

1

9

39

32

49

4

2

.263

.340

.410

.750

86

13

96

284

36

74

14

1

9

39

32

47

3

2

.261

.338

.411

.749

58

14

94

283

38

75

13

1

9

39

33

46

3

2

.264

.343

.410

.753

44

15

80

235

30

60

12

1

7

29

26

40

3

2

.257

.334

.398

.733

24

16

84

245

33

63

12

1

8

33

30

38

1

1

.257

.339

.415

.754

16

17

90

262

34

68

12

1

9

37

32

42

2

1

.260

.343

.412

.755

11

18

77

221

27

56

10

2

6

30

29

35

1

1

.253

.341

.398

.739

6

19

89

221

27

57

9

1

7

33

28

36

2

1

.256

.344

.398

.742

3

20

107

262

26

64

14

0

9

43

23

54

2

1

.243

.309

.405

.714

2

21

79

177

13

44

7

1

3

24

18

44

5

1

.249

.322

.337

.659

2

22

40

72

5

15

2

0

1

10

8

17

1

1

.210

.292

.273

.565

 

 

The two players who started at age 24 and lasted 22 years were Carlton Fisk and Julio Franco.     For purposes of this study I ignored any "pre-rookie" performance.

 

At age 25 the number of rookies who last as long as 800 games in the majors drops sharply, to 135.      No one in this group is in the Hall of Fame, and also, no one in this group ever won an MVP Award.    The best players in this group are Kenny Lofton, Brett Butler, Andres Galarraga, Moises Alou, Ron Cey, Bob Boone, Norm Cash and Lou Piniella.     One notable thing is that, in this group, I think we have almost all of the greatest fluke seasons of the last 60 years. . .Norm Cash in 1961, Jim Hickman in 1970, Cito Gaston in 1970, Bill Mueller in 2003, Floyd Robinson in 1962, maybe Kevin Seitzer in 1987.     There are a few Rookies of the Year in here—Piniella, Jimmie Hall, Tommy Helms, Bake McBride, Gary Mathews, Ron Kittle—but the Rookie of the Year Award often tends to be the career highlight for this group.

 

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 25

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

135

1

105

328

43

88

14

3

7

37

30

51

7

3

.267

.330

.394

.724

135

2

120

394

52

107

19

4

9

48

37

58

8

4

.272

.336

.409

.745

135

3

120

408

54

111

20

3

10

49

38

60

9

4

.271

.336

.408

.745

135

4

124

422

57

116

21

3

11

52

39

61

9

5

.275

.338

.414

.752

135

5

125

423

57

116

20

3

11

53

40

61

8

4

.273

.340

.415

.754

135

6

116

375

49

100

18

2

9

46

35

54

6

3

.268

.333

.403

.735

134

7

111

355

46

96

17

2

9

43

33

51

6

3

.270

.335

.404

.739

129

8

105

325

42

86

16

2

8

40

30

48

4

3

.265

.330

.394

.725

112

9

98

305

39

83

15

2

7

38

29

43

4

2

.273

.338

.403

.741

93

10

96

290

36

78

14

2

7

36

28

42

3

2

.270

.336

.401

.736

71

11

88

254

32

68

13

1

7

33

25

38

3

2

.266

.334

.403

.737

45

12

90

271

36

73

13

1

8

35

27

41

3

2

.268

.338

.411

.748

29

13

94

280

36

76

14

2

7

35

30

41

3

2

.272

.347

.410

.758

19

14

91

280

36

77

14

1

7

34

27

40

4

1

.274

.341

.408

.749

16

15

63

182

23

49

8

1

4

19

17

25

4

1

.270

.334

.384

.718

8

16

73

218

29

62

9

1

3

21

21

29

6

3

.286

.349

.380

.729

4

17

82

209

21

58

8

1

4

24

19

31

1

1

.276

.335

.371

.706

3

18

18

45

4

11

1

0

0

4

6

5

0

0

.254

.338

.299

.636

1

19

1

1

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

.000

.000

.000

.000

 

 

There are only 67 rookies in our study who were 26 years old, but two of those had near-Hall of Fame careers, Edgar Martinez and Maury Wills, and two did win MVP Awards, Maury Wills in 1962 and Elston Howard in 1963.    A lot of guys who were pretty good. . .Jim Gentile, Jim Lemon, Vic Power, Phil Garner, Don Hoak, Donn Clendenon, Vic Davalillo, George Altman.

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 26

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

67

1

100

300

40

80

12

3

6

32

27

45

10

4

.265

.327

.386

.713

67

2

121

386

54

104

17

3

9

45

37

60

12

6

.270

.336

.400

.735

67

3

123

417

58

112

19

4

10

47

40

65

13

5

.269

.336

.404

.740

67

4

127

428

59

116

19

3

10

50

41

65

13

6

.272

.338

.406

.744

67

5

121

395

53

105

18

3

9

47

38

60

11

5

.265

.332

.395

.727

67

6

109

354

46

92

15

3

8

41

32

55

11

4

.259

.324

.386

.710

66

7

106

325

44

86

15

2

7

37

34

51

10

4

.265

.336

.387

.723

62

8

105

306

41

80

15

2

7

37

32

49

8

3

.263

.334

.396

.730

52

9

87

260

36

70

12

2

6

32

26

39

6

3

.269

.337

.394

.732

41

10

94

280

35

75

13

1

6

31

27

42

6

2

.268

.335

.389

.724

29

11

87

257

34

69

11

2

5

27

25

38

6

3

.268

.335

.386

.720

19

12

95

282

38

76

13

1

6

31

31

42

7

3

.269

.342

.385

.728

15

13

88

249

31

63

11

1

5

28

27

40

7

2

.253

.328

.356

.683

9

14

71

187

25

48

6

1

3

18

20

32

6

2

.258

.333

.358

.691

4

15

71

184

28

50

8

0

7

30

30

32

7

2

.273

.379

.429

.807

2

16

74

246

23

65

12

0

6

32

29

54

1

0

.262

.342

.382

.725

 

Here the selection bias—not including players who played less than 800 games in the majors in our study—here that issue is critical.    Based on this, we would conclude that even players who come to the majors at age 26 show some improvement, over the next several years, as they adjust to the major leagues.   But this may not be an accurate conclusion, as it may be that the 26-year-olds who wash out of the majors short of 800 games are going down by as much as these players are going up.     We do know that some players who don’t get established in the majors until they are 26 still show some improvement over the following years.   

 

Just finishing out the data now:

 

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 27 (26 of them)

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

26

1

109

344

49

94

15

3

6

37

29

53

11

4

.274

.330

.386

.716

26

2

117

382

49

104

17

3

9

40

31

54

13

4

.271

.328

.402

.730

26

3

125

430

59

120

21

4

9

48

38

59

14

6

.278

.336

.412

.749

26

4

135

473

61

127

23

5

10

53

41

63

13

6

.269

.328

.400

.728

26

5

117

381

49

98

17

3

9

43

34

54

9

4

.258

.321

.388

.709

26

6

111

364

51

98

16

3

9

46

34

52

8

4

.270

.336

.401

.737

26

7

119

406

51

107

19

3

9

45

33

57

7

4

.263

.321

.389

.709

25

8

98

310

42

82

14

2

6

32

27

44

8

3

.266

.327

.384

.710

21

9

94

280

35

70

10

2

5

30

28

41

6

2

.249

.319

.354

.673

16

10

77

218

27

58

10

1

6

27

24

31

2

1

.265

.337

.408

.745

10

11

71

217

29

56

12

1

6

26

23

32

2

1

.260

.331

.405

.736

5

12

73

196

23

53

11

1

4

28

18

32

4

2

.270

.331

.404

.735

1

13

131

335

42

102

20

2

3

33

38

58

2

0

.304

.378

.403

.781

1

14

142

489

54

131

26

4

10

66

40

65

3

2

.268

.328

.399

.726

1

15

101

256

25

65

13

1

6

37

27

36

4

0

.254

.323

.383

.706

 

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 28 (there are 12 of those)

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

12

1

76

194

24

49

8

2

3

17

20

26

5

3

.251

.320

.350

.669

12

2

93

269

38

74

14

1

7

35

29

37

8

4

.276

.347

.419

.766

12

3

106

338

45

91

18

3

7

40

34

42

8

3

.269

.337

.398

.735

12

4

114

344

43

91

18

2

8

38

36

47

6

3

.264

.336

.399

.735

12

5

117

351

46

93

17

2

10

45

39

53

7

4

.264

.339

.409

.748

12

6

121

384

49

105

18

2

11

50

39

58

7

2

.274

.341

.422

.763

12

7

111

342

46

92

17

2

9

41

36

50

4

1

.268

.339

.411

.750

12

8

105

302

37

77

14

1

7

36

31

45

3

1

.253

.325

.377

.702

11

9

82

215

25

53

10

0

5

24

22

35

3

1

.245

.322

.361

.683

8

10

75

201

24

49

11

1

4

23

21

32

4

3

.245

.321

.372

.692

5

11

83

200

21

49

7

1

5

21

21

28

4

1

.247

.319

.360

.679

4

12

61

158

21

37

6

1

3

17

18

28

4

0

.233

.315

.342

.657

2

13

54

147

27

41

6

0

6

23

24

22

24

2

.279

.379

.442

.821

1

14

96

255

49

70

10

3

7

35

43

25

25

8

.275

.381

.420

.800

1

15

47

43

4

10

2

0

1

6

13

8

2

1

.233

.411

.349

.760

 

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 29

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

5

1

124

389

53

105

16

6

10

50

36

56

9

3

.270

.330

.422

.752

5

2

133

465

59

125

21

5

13

68

38

70

9

6

.268

.324

.423

.747

5

3

136

481

56

131

21

3

13

59

46

72

8

5

.273

.337

.413

.751

5

4

137

463

58

119

21

3

11

57

50

71

9

5

.257

.330

.389

.719

5

5

129

434

52

111

19

3

11

52

39

59

7

3

.255

.317

.389

.706

5

6

109

324

30

80

13

3

6

38

30

56

5

1

.247

.314

.363

.678

5

7

108

318

35

78

11

2

9

40

25

44

5

2

.246

.300

.384

.684

5

8

80

187

20

45

8

1

4

21

18

25

3

1

.240

.309

.357

.666

3

9

39

59

11

13

1

0

1

5

4

11

1

0

.220

.264

.299

.564

1

10

65

141

20

34

8

0

2

10

24

14

6

3

.241

.352

.340

.692

 

 

PLAYERS WHO ARE ROOKIES AT AGE 30

#

Yr

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

CS

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

2

1

71

167

24

52

12

2

3

20

8

14

5

1

.311

.347

.452

.799

2

2

122

336

37

85

19

2

4

39

19

27

7

5

.251

.293

.347

.640

2

3

113

302

32

78

9

4

4

31

21

20

4

2

.257

.303

.343

.645

2

4

128

418

41

94

17

1

5

28

22

36

3

3

.224

.264

.303

.567

2

5

109

247

26

66

7

2

1

19

15

16

4

5

.266

.305

.312

.617

2

6

119

342

33

82

12

2

1

26

25

21

3

2

.239

.292

.294

.586

2

7

86

171

16

39

6

0

2

12

12

13

1

2

.225

.273

.287

.559

2

8

83

189

19

42

7

2

3

19

14

29

0

1

.222

.271

.315

.586

1

9

62

95

18

23

5

1

3

8

13

19

0

1

.242

.333

.411

.744

 

The two players who were rookies at age 30 were Keith Lockhart and Bob Lillis, and the five who were rookies at age 29 were Jungle Jim Rivera, Dale Long, Gene Michael, Ron Coomer, and the little kid from the movie "42", Ed Charles.      Our final chart summarizes the average career totals of the players, by the age at which they were rookies:

 

 

 

Rookie Age

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

#

G

AB

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

Avg

OBA

SPct

OPS

3

18

1938

6563

1793

313

59

135

768

603

757

99

.273

.362

.400

.762

11

19

2004

6842

1891

320

47

253

990

802

978

140

.276

.396

.448

.843

48

20

1988

6944

1914

316

52

235

958

744

969

144

.276

.390

.437

.827

111

21

1665

5628

1518

265

40

163

735

628

819

107

.270

.371

.418

.789

172

22

1560

5352

1453

250

38

150

682

527

793

116

.272

.374

.417

.791

202

23

1393

4577

1222

216

30

137

599

468

741

87

.267

.373

.417

.790

212

24

1367

4443

1181

210

29

119

557

441

693

78

.266

.365

.406

.771

135

25

1212

3878

1047

185

27

94

472

366

569

68

.270

.364

.404

.768

67

26

1155

3602

957

161

26

82

414

352

558

103

.266

.353

.393

.746

26

27

1145

3665

977

166

30

79

410

324

523

91

.267

.356

.393

.749

12

28

1074

3104

814

150

16

76

367

328

450

64

.262

.351

.394

.746

5

29

1015

3176

820

135

28

82

397

292

472

58

.258

.358

.395

.753

2

30

898

2298

570

93

13

24

203

147

192

27

.248

.306

.330

.636

 

 
 

COMMENTS (5 Comments, most recent shown first)

shthar
This pretty much confirms what I've figured out, the younger a player is when he makes the bigs the better.

And don't draft 27 year old rookies with the expectation of them being around more than a couple of years.
8:35 PM May 30th
 
bjames
I used this data because this was the data that I had organized in a fashion that could apply to the question. Win Shares would be good, but I don't have the right data organized in the right way. . . .and I don't have any fielding stuff I could use, at all. I think I probably could do the "age of rookies" study. Don't know if I should worry about "baseball ages" for that or whether the amateur researchers have corrected the record enough that older dates of birth can now be thought of as accurate.
12:09 PM May 29th
 
KaiserD2
This is a very thorough study which immediately reminded me of the big rookie study in one of the last annual Abstracts--maybe the last annual Abstract (I remember it's the one with a yellow cover)--whose conclusions were similar. (It also had a fascinating discussion about race which would be very interesting to update now.) I am left once again with a big chicken and egg question.

One can interpret the data to mean that a) the sooner you get a promising hitter into the majors, the better he will turn out to be. Or, one can interpret the data to mean that b) the greatest hitters are easily identified at an early age and thus rushed to the majors. I think either one of those things could be true, but I'm more inclined to believe a). The younger you are when big-league pitching becomes your norm, the better you are likely to get at hitting it. But I certainly can't prove that.

But if a) is true, then the structure of contemporary baseball has a big problem, because it's become significantly harder, it seems to me, to reach the majors at 19, 20 or 21, especially if you're a US citizen who has been to college. I think Kevin Youkilis might have been a hall of famer if he had gotten into the majors a few years earlier, but you never know. Indeed, it's frequently written that teams want to delay players' major league debuts so as to delay the day when they will become free agents.

I hope perhaps some day Bill can use his data base to track the average age at which players enter the majors and how that has changed.

DK
7:21 AM May 29th
 
Steven Goldleaf

Fascinating stuff—it’s merely logical that a player’s peak would flatten as his rookie year gets pushed later and later, but it’s fun seeing how much. What I’ve learned—or had reinforced—here is that an elderly rookie who has a good rookie season may be playing at or close to his peak, while a younger rookie almost certainly is going to improve. A side-question is: why have you expressed this in terms of OPS rather than WS? I used WS in my initial question because I thought that was the Gold Standard in summarizing stats, but it seems not. Was that too fond a goal, that you would develop a 2-digit summary, or are you hopeful that you can tweak WS such that an answer like this can be expressed in terms of WS? Should we give up on a 2-digit summary for the time being?

6:49 AM May 29th
 
Robinsong
Excellent study!
I thought the ratio of age 27 OPS to rookie OPS was interesting.
19 - 1.205; 20 - 1.127; 21 - 1.090; 22 - 1.087; 23 - 1.046; 24 -1.046;
25 - 1.029; 26- 1.031. A very consistent pattern, but the relatively small upside for all groups was also striking. Even the 19-year olds captured most of their upside by 20. Since the older rookies also start at a higher level, the gap in age 27 performance (.836 OPS for those who were 19 year old rookies vs .735 for those who were rookies at 26) is 13.7%. This difference is about twenty runs, which means about 2 wins or 6 Win Shares.

Another factor for projecting maximum Win Shares is playing time; rookies play less than 27 year olds.

Finally, a question: Could you do a similar analysis for fielding? My guess is that defensive skill peaks very quickly after the rookie year so that defensive Win Shares per game played would be very similar at 27 as when a rookie and that there is not a marked difference between though who came up early and those who arrived in the big leagues at 25 in defensive performance at age 27, but it would be interesting to study.
3:14 PM May 28th
 
 
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