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Today’s Win Shares, Tomorrow’s Hall of Fame

September 19, 2007

 I believe that I wrote this article in September or October, 2002, although it has not been published until now.  It is, I now realize, an article with many flaws, but I decided to publish it now as originally written. 

 

The article introduces primitive forms of two articles which were later used to better effect in the article “Hanrahan’s List”, which you can also find here.   The research here is more primitive, but sabermetrics is an evolving process, and we shouldn’t be ashamed to acknowledge that methods exist in multiple forms. 

 

There are other problems with the research.   The article outlines ways that the method could be improved—but five years later, this work has not been done.  It hasn’t been done, in part, because I was hired by the Red Sox a month after I wrote this article, and I’ve been busy.  It hasn’t been done, in part, because I’ve lost confidence in a basic assumption underlying the method—namely, that a method which identifies Hall of Famers in mid-career from the past will continue to work in the future.  I am now more inclined to think that it won’t continue to work in the future.   But I guess we’ll see.

 

The article refers to Bobby Abreu as a “young player”, which he was at the time, and also contains a comparison of Roberto Alomar and Craig Biggio which turned out to be, in retrospect, entirley incorrect.  But I decided to leave it. 

 

I.  The Basic System

 

            Take a young player. . .let’s say Bobby Abreu.   A-Rod is too obvious.  What is the chance that Bobby Abreu will eventually be in the Hall of Fame?

 

            I have a method, which I developed many years ago, which monitors a player’s progress on the road to the Hall of Fame.   That method has its flaws, and it has its benefits, but I am asking here a slightly different question.  That method asks “What are Bobby Abreu’s Hall of Fame credentials at this point in time?”  That method answers that question in such a way that one can give an answer to the question “If Bobby Abreu retired tomorrow, what would be his chance of going into the Hall of Fame?”  But I am asking here a somewhat different question, not “What is his current location?”, but rather “Where is he headed?”   Is he on target toward the Hall of Fame?

 

            This research is based on the player’s Win Shares.   As a general rule, a player has a better-than-50% chance to go into the Hall of Fame if he retires with 325 or more career Win Shares, and a less-than-50% if he retires with less than that.   Pitchers are a little different; we’ll deal with them in a moment, but of 22 non-pitchers in history who are Hall of Fame eligible and who have 325 to 349 Win Shares, 12 have been elected to the Hall of Fame.   Of 32 non-pitchers with 300 to 324 Win Shares, only 14 have been elected to the Hall of Fame.   Above 350, the odds swing sharply in the player’s favor; below 300, a player is a long-odds Hall of Fame candidate:

 

            350-374 Win Shares    15 of 18          83%

            325-349 Win Shares    12 of 22          55%

            300-324 Win Shares    14 of 32          44%

            275-299 Win Shares    15 of 41           37%

 

            So at 325 Win Shares, a hitter becomes a likely Hall of Famer. 

 

            My first thought, then, was that we could assess a player’s chance of making the Hall of Fame by assessing his chance of getting to 325 Win Shares.  My best method to tackle that problem is another old invention known as the favorite toy.  The favorite toy begins by asking three questions:

 

            a)  How far away from the goal is the player?

            b)  How fast is he moving?

            c)  How much time does he have?

 

            Given answers a through c, we can estimate the chance that the player will reach the goal.   If a player is 30 years old, sixty Win Shares away from the goal, and moving at a rate of 35.0 Win Shares per season, it is fairly obvious that he will probably pass the marker.  If, on the other hand, the player is 35 years old, 150 Win Shares away from the goal, and moving at a rate of 15.0 Win Shares per season, it is fairly obvious that he is not going to reach the goal. 

 

            Let’s take a tougher case. . .suppose that a player is 29 years old, has 186 career Win Shares already, and is moving at a rate of 29 Win Shares per season.  What is the chance that he will make 325?

 

            Well, let’s see. . .if he’s 29 years old, he probably has about 6.5 seasons left, as a guess.   If he earns 29 Win Shares per season for 6.5 seasons, that would be 188.5 more Win Shares.  He needs 139 to make 325. . .thus, he appears to be on target to pass the 325 mark easily, thus he appears to be a likely Hall of Famer. 

 

            This is the actual data for Chipper Jones after the 2001 season—he was 29 years old, had an established Win Share level of 29.0, and had 186 career Win Shares at the end of the season.   Let me explain a few details of the math . .

 

a)  How far away from the goal is the player?

            This one is easy.   Jones had 186 career Win Shares; he is 139 away from the goal of 325.

 

b)   How fast is he moving?

            The formula I used here is this:

            The player’s Win Shares four years ago, plus

            His Win Shares three years ago, times two, plus

            His Win Shares two years ago, times three, plus

            His Win Shares last season, times four,

            All divided by ten. 

 

            Chipper Jones earned 29 Win Shares in 1998, 32 in 1999, 27 in 2000 and 29 in 2001.   That makes an established Win Share level of 29.0—29, plus 64, plus 81, plus 116 makes 290, divided by ten is 29.0.  Chipper Jones’ established Win Share level was 29.0. 

 

            There are a couple of other formulas that I use sometimes to figure established performance levels. . .it doesn’t matter a lot which one you use.   A player’s established Win Share level cannot be less than .75 times his Win Shares in the most recent season.  That is, suppose that a player’s Win Shares in the last four years are 0, 0, 0, and 20.  That would make an Established Win Share level of 8.0—except that there is an “override” which moves it to 15.0.    If a rookie has 200 hits in a season, it’s silly to say that his establish hit level is 80.    We may not want to move him to 200 right away, but we have to get him in a reasonable range. 

 

c)  How long does he have?

 

            Also known as Years Remaining.  The formula I used here is (42 minus age, divided by two).   If a player is 20 years old, this gives him a career expectation of 11 years; if he is 30, this gives him an expectation of six more seasons.   Again, I have used slightly different formulas at times.  It’s just a guess; we don’t really know how long the player has.   Chipper Jones was 29 years old in 2002, so we will guess that he has 6.5 seasons left. 

 

            OK, two more questions:

 

d)  How do you put that together to estimate his chances of reaching the goal? and

e)  He hasn’t been hanging around with strippers again, has he?

 

            Sorry, Chip.   Answering question (d). . .We put (b) and (c) together to make an estimate of how much career the player has left.    The player’s established Win Share level (29.0) multiplied by his years remaining (6.5) indicates that Jones probably had about 188.5 Win Shares left.  

 

            We established in (a) that Jones needed 139 more Win Shares to be a likely Hall of Famer.    Since (d) is greater than (a)—that is, since Jones’ expected Win Shares are more than his needed Win Shares—his chance of reaching the goal must be greater than 50%.

 

            I put them together in this way:

 

Divide the Expected Remaining Win Shares

                        By the Win Shares needed

                        And subtract .50. 

 

            If the player’s expected remaining Win Shares are the same as his Win Shares needed, then the player has a 50% chance of reaching the goal.   For Jones, this would make .86.   Jones would have an 86% chance of reaching 325 career Win Shares.

 

            Which is not our actual estimate for him; it’s too high.  Jones was likely to make the Hall of Fame from that point, but not 86% likely.   But I’ll explain a couple more details of the system before moving on. . .    

 

            Detail A)  If a player shows less than a zero % chance of reaching the goal (which, in fact, the vast majority of players do, since the vast majority of players are not any threat to the Hall of Fame), we count that at zero.

 

            Detail B)  If a player would calculate as having a greater-than-100% chance of reaching the goal by the method above, we cap that at .97 per season.   That is, if the player shows a 128% chance of reaching the goal, but is four years away from the goal, then his chance of reaching it is entered as .97 to the fourth power, which is .885.    If he is 5.62 seasons from reaching the goal, his chance of reaching it cannot exceed .97 to the power 5.62, which is .843.  

 

            OK, I had to clear those details off the table, but we have bigger fish to fry.  At this point, frankly, our system doesn’t actually work all that well.   At this point, we are assuming that the player’s chance of reaching 325 Win Shares and his chance of reaching the Hall of Fame are the same.  Of course, they are not.   By this silly system, if a player has earned 326 Win Shares in his career, he has a 100% chance of making the Hall of Fame.   On the other hand, if a player has earned 295 Win Shares, but is old and not moving very fast, we would give him no chance of being elected to the Hall of Fame, even though a depressingly large number of people have been elected to the Hall of Fame with less than 295 Win Shares, or, for that matter, less than 250.    We have to spread the marker out to reflect the real situation, which is that Hall of Fame selection bears a somewhat more imprecise relationship to 325 Win Shares. 

 

            How do we do that?   Well, in this system, what we are really asking is not “What are the chances that Johnny will make the Hall of Fame?”, but “What are the chances that Johnny will have a career of Hall of Fame stature?”  We disengage from 325 Win Shares as a golden snitch by establishing a long series of markers.   What we do is, we go through the exact process outlined above, except that we go through it ten times, rather than once.   The ten questions we ask are:

 

            1)  What are the chances that this player will earn 235 Win Shares in his career? 

            2)  What are the chances that this player will earn 255 Win Shares in his career? 

            3)  What are the chances that this player will earn 275 Win Shares in his career? 

            4)  What are the chances that this player will earn 295 Win Shares in his career? 

            5)  What are the chances that this yahoo will earn 315 Win Shares in his career? 

6)  What are the chances that this player will earn 335 Win Shares in his career? 

            7)  What are the chances that this player will earn 355 Win Shares in his career? 

            8)  What are the chances that this player will earn 375 Win Shares in his career? 

            9)  What are the chances that this player will earn 395 Win Shares in his career? 

            10)  What is the likelihood that this player will earn 415 Win Shares in his career?

 

            We address each of those ten questions with the method outlined above.   Then, to convert that into a Hall of Fame likelihood, we do four things:

 

            1)  We take the average of all ten answers.

            2)  We take the average of the middle six, questions 3-8 on the chart above.  

            3)  We add those two averages together, and

            4)  We divide by two.

 

            Returning to our old friend Chipper Jones, we estimate that he had, at the end of the 2001 season:

 

            1)  a 94.98% chance to earn 235 Win Shares in his career,

            2)  a 93.01% chance to earn 255 Win Shares,

            3)  a 91.08% chance to earn 275,

            4)  an 89.18% chance to earn 295,

            5)  an 87.33% chance to earn 315,

            6)  a 76.51% chance to earn 335,

            7)  a 61.54% chance to earn 355,

            8)  a 49.74% chance to earn 375,

            9)  a 40.19% chance to earn 395,

            10) a 32.31% chance to earn 415. 

 

            The average of these ten estimates is 71.587.   However, the average of the central six is 75.895.  Adding those together and dividing by two, we thus estimate that Chipper Jones at the conclusion of the 2001 season had a 74% chance of reaching the Hall of Fame—actually, 73.7411, except that it patently absurd to say that you “estimate” that somebody has a 73.7411% chance of doing something.  

 

            In essence, what we are doing is assuming that a player can reach the Hall of Fame with as few as 235 Win Shares or even less, but that he is not certain to reach the Hall of Fame unless he has 415 Win Shares, that he becomes more and more likely to be elected to the Hall of Fame as he moves upward within that range, and that his Hall of Fame chances accelerate most rapidly as he moves through the center of that range.    

 

            This leaves two large questions:

 

            1)  What about pitchers, and

            2)  Does this thing actually work?

II.  So How About Pitchers?

 

          For pitchers we use the same system, except that the standards are lower for pitchers post-1920.    Up to 1920 the standards were about the same (or even higher) for pitchers, since pitchers pre-1920 had very large Win Share totals in individual seasons.   Post-1920 the peaks for pitchers are comparable to those for hitters until about 1975.   Since 1975, the peaks for pitchers have dropped off, so that pitchers rarely are serious MVP candidates, plus, since pitchers are more at risk of injury, there are fewer pitchers than position players who have long, healthy careers.   The consequence is that the effective Hall of Fame standard, for pitchers post-1920, is about 50 Win Shares lower than for non-pitchers. 

 

            I suppose that I should document that, shouldn’t I?  70% of you don’t care, and 25 of the other 30 are willing to take my word for it, but just in case. . .There are nine pitchers in history who:

 

            a)  were born after 1885,

            b)  earned 300 to 324 Win Shares in their careers, and

            c)  are eligible for the Hall of Fame. 

 

            All nine are Hall of Famers—100%.   This is not to say that 300 Career Win Shares is an absolute guarantee; Bert Blyleven, with 339 Win Shares, has not been elected, but he’s the exception.  Otherwise, 300 gets you in.  Charting the data:

 

            300-324 Win Shares       9 of   9          100%

            275-299 Win Shares      3 of  4              75%

            250-274 Win Shares      7 of 12             58%

            225-249 Win Shares       4 of 19            21%

 

            The data is too thin to rest comfortably upon, but it would appear generally that the standard of the Hall of Fame, for pitchers, is about 50 Win Shares lower than it is for hitters.  

 

            For pitchers post-1920, then, I used the same system, except that I lowered the counts by 50.   I figured:

 

            1)  The pitcher’s chance to earn 185 Win Shares in his career.

2)  The pitcher’s chance to earn 205 Win Shares in his career.

3)  The pitcher’s chance to earn 225 Win Shares in his career.

4)  The pitcher’s chance to earn 245 Win Shares in his career.

5)  The pitcher’s chance to earn 265 Win Shares in his career.

6)  The pitcher’s chance to earn 285 Win Shares in his career.

7)  The pitcher’s chance to earn 305 Win Shares in his career.

8)  The pitcher’s chance to earn 325 Win Shares in his career.

9)  The pitcher’s chance to earn 345 Win Shares in his career.

10)  The pitcher’s chance to earn 365 Win Shares in his career

 

            I then combined these in the same way—average all ten estimates, average the central six, combine those into one figure. 

III.  Does This System Actually Work

 

          Of course it works; why would I be telling you about it if it didn’t?  Believe me, I’ve got a filing cabinet full of research that didn’t work, and I’m not going to tell you about any of it. 

 

          The system works, in this sense:  that if you take a group of players who are reported by the system to have a 74% chance of making the Hall of Fame and check in on them years later, 74% of them are going to be in the Hall of  Fame.  Well, maybe 72% would be a better guess, but somewhere in that range.

 

            To test the system, we can go to back to some point in the past—let’s say 1955—and make assessments of the Hall of Fame chances of every player active at that time, and then check to see how those assessments worked out.

 

            According to our method, the top 25 Hall of Fame candidates active in 1955 were as follows:

 

                               ​;          Hall of Fame

                                 ​;              Chance

              1.  Stan Musial          100%

                   Ted Williams        100%

              3.  Robin Roberts       93%

              4.  Duke Snider          91%

              5.  Mickey Mantle      86%

              6.  Yogi Berra            84%

              7.  Eddie Mathews     81%

              8.  Bob Feller             77%

              9.  Warren Spahn       76%

            10.  Richie Ashburn      75%

            11.  Pee Wee Reese     73%

            12.  Larry Doby           73%

            13.  Willie Mays           68%

            14.  Johnny Mize          63%

            15.  Bob Lemon           61%

            16.  Ralph Kiner           53%

            17.  Early Wynn           53%

            18.  Gil Hodges            53%

            19.  Hal Newhouser     52%

            20.  Ted Kluszewski     51%

            21.  Mickey Vernon      49%

            22.  Enos Slaughter       49%

            23.  Al Rosen               48%

            24.  Billy Pierce            46%

            25.  Nellie Fox             46%

           

            Johnny Mize actually retired after the 1953 season, but he shows up on the 1955 list because the system looks at performance over the last four seasons. . .anybody who contributed at least one Win Share to his team from 1952 through 1955 can show up on the 1955 list.  The only certain Hall of Famers of 1955 were Musial and Williams.  It is interesting to note that Mickey Mantle in 1955—23 years old, and a year before his first MVP season—is already shown by our method as being 86% certain to eventually be in the Hall of  Fame.   That’s fine; I’m trying to develop a system that looks forward, not one that looks back.  If the system could look at minor leaguers and tell me which one of them would eventually make the Hall of Fame (which of course it can’t), that would be great.   

 

            In one sense, this chart shows that our system works. . .all of the players listed here as most likely to go into the Hall of Fame did in fact do so, the top 17 players.  The 1955 study also validates the method in another sense.   The 1955 study predicts that 27 players active in 1955 would eventually be selected to the Hall of Fame.  The actual number was 33, or 35 if you include two players (Monte Irvin and Satchel Paige) who were in the majors in that era, but selected for their play in the Negro Leagues.   Twenty-seven, thirty-three. . .that’s a pretty good estimate.

 

But in another sense, this is an unsettling outcome, in that, in this test group, everyone who shows up at 60% or higher eventually winds up in the Hall of Fame.   We’ve got eleven players who are shown with a Hall of Fame probability between 60 and 90%--but all eleven of them are actually in the Hall of Fame.  Thus, what this test group suggests is that, if the system says you have a 60% chance of getting into the Hall of Fame, you actually have a 100% chance of getting into the Hall of Fame. 

 

It’s too small a sample, of course; one season’s worth of players isn’t enough to actually determine whether the system works.   I started out to test the system by checking the Hall of Fame chances of every player active in 1920, 1930, 1940, 1950 or 1960 (or in the three preceding seasons).   That turned out to be an interesting exercise, plus I figured out how to replicate the process so as to do additional seasons pretty easily. . .I wound up checking the Hall of Fame chances for every player from the 1900 season, 1910—and every season between 1920 and 1976. 

 

This makes a total of 39,816 player/seasons evaluated.  Since each of those data lines is 72 columns wide, this makes a spreadsheet which has just short of three million cells.  As an aside, it is astonishing to me to be working with computers that can actually handle spreadsheets of this size.  When I first worked with spreadsheets twenty years ago, I thought they were wonderful, but at that time a personal computer spreadsheet could handle a few hundred cells worth of information; anything above that and they would start to weird out on you.    This thing is about 10,000 times larger than the capacity of the old one, yet it sorts the data easily, allows me to insert and remove new information without complaint, and makes room for new formulas and new calculations as if it had hardly noticed. 

 

Anyway, of these 39,816 seasons, 87 are by players like Sparky Anderson, Al Lopez and Leo Durocher, who were selected to the Hall of Fame, but not as players, or who were selected as players, but from the Negro Leagues (Satchel and Monte Irvin).  Another 22 are players who are not eligible for the Hall of Fame, either because they’ve been banned from the game or because they haven’t been retired long enough yet.  

 

Eliminating those 109 players from the data, we then have 39,707 assessments of a player’s chance of going into the Hall of Fame.   Of course, the vast majority of those—30,426, to be exact—are “zero”; this player’s chance of going into the Hall of Fame is “Forget it, loser.” 

 

There are 223 players in the study who show as having a 100% chance to make the Hall of Fame.   This is almost as many players as are actually in the Hall of Fame, which you may think strange, but a player can be on our list as a 100% Hall of Famer for several years.  Henry Aaron appears on our list as a 100% certain Hall of Famer in 1965, and again in 1966, ‘67. . .on until 1976; he’s actually 12 of the 223 certain Hall of Famers in our file.    Anyway, of these 223 certain Hall of Famers, all 223 are in fact in the Hall of Fame, so we have no problems there:

 

Hall of Fame

Chance                   Candidates   Hall of Famers  Percentage

100%                           223                  223                  100%

 

In our study we have 265 players who are shown as having a 90 to 99% chance of going into the Hall of Fame.  244 of those 267, or 91%, are now in the Hall of Fame:

 

Hall of Fame

Chance                   Candidates   Hall of Famers  Percentage

100%                           223                  223                  100%

90 to 99%                    267                  244                    91%

 

            Extending the data to its natural conclusion:

 

Hall of Fame

Chance                   Candidates   Hall of Famers  Percentage

100%                           223                  223                  100%

90 to 99%                    265                  244                    91%

80 to 89%                    211                  177                    84%

70 to 79%                    264                  190                    72%

60 to 69%                    303                  174                    57%

50 to 59%                    366                  192                    52%

40 to 49%                    399                  166                    42%

30 to 39%                    522                  177                    34%

20 to 29%                    754                  165                    22%

10 to 19%                  1177                  148                    13%

            Up to 9%                   4797                  245                      5%

            No Chance               30426                  208                    <1%

 

            In general, the study shows that our estimates are very close—not perfect, but close.  If you take a group of players who are shown by our system to have a 74% chance of getting into the Hall of Fame, it is very likely that about 74% of them will eventually be in the Hall of Fame.

 

            In a moment, I’ll talk about ways that the system could be improved.  First, though, I wanted to take up a couple of other subjects.

IV.  Fun Stuff We Learn From Doing This

 

            So who are the 208 players who had zero chance of going into the Hall of Fame, but did, anyway?

 

            Well, that one doesn’t turn out to be so interesting. . .that’s more under the heading of “Things that could be done to fix the system.”  A player when he reaches the major leagues will show as having a zero percent chance of making the Hall of Fame until he plays at a certain level.  In the language of the system, a player will show a zero percent chance of making the Hall of Fame until he posts an established value of about 10.0—higher than that if he starts late.   Virtually all of the “bad zero estimates” are simply the early-career estimates for players who haven’t yet made the lineup.  Harmon Killebrew, for example, shows up with a zero percent chance of making the Hall of Fame in 1954 (when he had 13 at bats), 1955 (when he had 80, but didn’t hit), 1956 (when he had 99, but didn’t hit), 1957 (when he had 31 at bats) and 1958 (when he had 31 more).  He finally made the lineup in 1959—and showed an 8% chance of making the Hall of Fame after the season.  

 

            The other end of this question, however, is very interesting:  Who are the players who were almost certain to make the Hall of Fame, but didn’t?  The players who showed up in our list as having an 80% chance or greater to make the Hall of Fame, but didn’t, are:

 

            1.  Dick Allen, 1974                          &​nbsp;  97%

            2.  Bill Dahlen, 1910                             95%

            3.  Wilbur Cooper, 1924                      94%

            4.  Ron Santo, 1972                             93%

            5.  Wes Ferrell, 1936                           92%

 

            6.  GeorgeVan Haltren, 1900                92%

            7.  Joe Torre, 1971                              90%

            8.  Jimmy Sheckard, 1910                    89%

9.  Frank Howard, 1971                       89%

          10.  Jimmy Wynn, 1976                          88%

 

          11.  Carl Mays, 1921                             86%

          12.  Sherry Magee, 1910                        86%

          13.  Stan Hack, 1945                             85%

          14.  Jim Fregosi, 1970                            85%

          15.  Willie Davis, 1974                           84%

 

          16.  Rusty Staub, 1971                           84%

          17.  Vern Stephens, 1950                       81%

          18.  Charlie Keller, 1943                        80%

 

            There are 18 players on this list, whereas the chart before showed 55 players who were over 80%, but aren’t in the Hall of Fame.   This happens, again, because of multiple appearances on the list. . .Dick Allen, for example, shows up not only at 97% in 1974, but also at 95% in 1972, 95% in 1973, 93% in 1975, 91% in 1976, 85% in 1971, 83% in 1968, 80% in 1967, and 80% in 1969.  

 

            Anyway, this is a very interesting list of players.  It includes guys who seemed like certain Hall of Famers, but got hurt (Wes Ferrell, Charlie Keller), guys who had Hall of Fame ability but haven’t made it because too many people hated them (Dick Allen, Carl Mays), good players who jumped briefly onto the list after they had career years (Joe Torre, Jim Fregosi), players who were never really appreciated by the press (Jimmy Wynn, Wilbur Cooper, Frank Howard) and combinations of these attributes (Willie Davis and Sherry Magee.)    These are the “interesting biography” type guys, the guys who were just almost up to Hall of Fame standard, or who were up to the Hall of Fame standard, except for that (fill in the blank. . .injury, feud with the press, drinking problem, odd combination of skills, etc.)  

 

            Another fun thing about this system is that enables us to trace a player’s battle for immortality over the course of his career.  Henry Aaron, for example:


Year    Player                       Age      WS   Career  Chance

1954    Aaron, Henry               20        13          13        .00

1955    Aaron, Henry               21        29          42        .33

1956    Aaron, Henry               22        30          72        .45

1957    Aaron, Henry               23        35        107        .73

1958    Aaron, Henry               24        32        139        .81

1959    Aaron, Henry               25        38        177        .88

1960    Aaron, Henry               26        35        212        .91

1961    Aaron, Henry               27        35        247        .94

1962    Aaron, Henry               28        34        281        .96

1963    Aaron, Henry               29        41        322        .98

1964    Aaron, Henry               30        33        355        .99

1965    Aaron, Henry               31        31        386      1.00

1966    Aaron, Henry               32        27        413      1.00

1967    Aaron, Henry               33        34        447      1.00

1968    Aaron, Henry               34        32        479      1.00

1969    Aaron, Henry               35        38        517      1.00

1970    Aaron, Henry               30        25        542      1.00

1971    Aaron, Henry               37        33        575      1.00

1972    Aaron, Henry               38        21        596      1.00

1973    Aaron, Henry               39        20        616      1.00

1974    Aaron, Henry               40        13        629      1.00

1975    Aaron, Henry               41          9        638      1.00

1976    Aaron, Henry               42          5        643      1.00

 

            Aaron established himself as a Hall of Fame candidate in 1955, his second year in the majors, when he hit .314 with 27 homers, 106 RBI.   He crossed over to being a likely Hall of Famer two years later, when he won the National League MVP Award with his first 40-homer season (44, 132, 322).   He was then 23, but, like Mantle at the same age, already a likely Hall of Famer.   In fact, why don’t we set this aside for a second, and make up a list of all the players within the study who were likely Hall of Famers by the age of 23:

  

Year    Player                       Age   Career  Chance

1910    Cobb, Ty                     23        186        .91

1942    Williams, Ted               23        150        .88

1955    Mantle, Mickey            23        148        .86

1935    Vaughan, Arky             23        130        .84

1955    Mathews, Eddie           23        125        .81

1932    Ott, Mel                       23        144       .80

1944    Musial, Stan                 23        108        .78

1931    Foxx, Jimmie                23        122        .74

1957    Aaron, Hank                23        107        .73

1931    Ferrell, Wes                 23          87        .72

1974    Cedeno, Cesar             23        119        .72

1974    Blyleven, Bert               23        101        .70

1910    Collins, Eddie               23          93        .70

1944    Newhouser, Hal           23          77        .70

1942    Feller, Bob                   23        137        .69

1938    DiMaggio, Joe              23          94        .66

1962    Pinson, Vada                23        109        .66

1969    Jackson, Reggie            23          68        .63

1971    Bench, Johnny              23        107        .62

1960    Drysdale, Don              23          91        .61

1954    Mays, Willie                 23          64        .60

1961    Cepeda, Orlando          23          98        .59

1964    Chance, Dean               23          61        .58

1963    Ellsworth, Dick             23          58        .57

1958    Kaline, Al                     23        108        .55

1920    Youngs, Ross               23          84        .54

1935    Medwick, Joe              23          85        .54

1959    Robinson, Frank           23          98        .53

1944    Stephens, Vern             23          76       .50

 

            Vern Stephens is a hair under 50% (49.9), so all of the players who were perceived as likely Hall of Famers at a very young age became actual Hall of Famers except Wes Ferrell, Cesar Cedeno, Bert Blyleven, Vada Pinson, Dean Chance and Dick Ellsworth.    Pinson is listed here on the assumption that he was born in 1938, which is the date listed for him in the Encyclopedias, although I’m fairly sure that is a baseball age, and he was actually born in 1936.  He might not make the list with corrected data.  

 

            Willie Mays is projected at 53% really based on one season, his MVP season in 1954; he was in the army in 1953 and almost all of 1952.   Ellsworth and Chance failed to follow through on their superb seasons in ’63 and ’64, but the interesting thing there is that this list isn’t polluted by a large number of fluke-season pitchers, as I would have thought it might be.

            Another thing we can do is list the top Hall of Fame candidates by age:

 

Age 18                                    Career WS  HOF Chance

Bob Feller, 1937                     19              .03

  

Age 19                                    Career WS  HOF Chance

Bob Feller, 1938                     41              .34

Wally Bunker, 1964                 19             .17

Gary Nolan, 1967                    19             .17

  

Age 20                          Career WS  HOF Chance

Bob Feller, 1939                     73              .71

Mel Ott, 1929                          57              .48

Mickey Mantle, 1952               45              .47

 

Age 21                                    Career WS  HOF Chance

Bob Feller, 1940                   107              .83

Eddie Mathews, 1953              58              .64

Mel Ott, 1930                          85              .59

  

Age 22                          Career WS  HOF Chance

Bob Feller, 1941                   137              .83

Ted Williams, 1941                104              .78

Mickey Mantle, 1953             107              .75

  

Age 23                        Career WS  HOF Chance

Ty Cobb, 1910                      186              .91

Ted Williams, 1942                150              .88

Mickey Mantle, 1955             148              .86

 

Age 24                          Career WS  HOF Chance

Mickey Mantle, 1956          197               .91

Arky Vaughan, 1936              165               .87

Jimmie Foxx, 1932                162                 .86

  

Age 25                          Career WS  HOF Chance

Mickey Mantle, 1957          248               .95

Babe Ruth, 1920                    231               .94

Mel Ott, 1934                        213               .90

 

Age 26                          Career WS  HOF Chance

Babe Ruth, 1921                   284              .97

Mickey Mantle, 1958              287              .97

Rogers Hornsby, 1922           236               .94

 

Age 27                          Career WS  HOF Chance

Mickey Mantle, 1959            317              .98

Babe Ruth, 1922                      313              .98

Mel Ott, 1937                          284              .96

 

Age 28                          Career WS  HOF Chance

Babe Ruth, 1923                    368            1.00

Mickey Mantle, 1960               353              .99

Mel Ott, 1937                          316              .98

  

Age 29                          Career WS  HOF Chance

Babe Ruth, 1924                    413            1.00

Mickey Mantle, 1961               401            1.00

Mel Ott, 1938                          352              .99

 

Age 30                          Career WS  HOF Chance

Mickey Mantle, 1962            434             1.00

Babe Ruth, 1925                      426             1.00

Kid Nichols, 1900                    408             1.00

Mel Ott, 1939                          380             1.00

 

            After age 30 you just have a lengthening list of players who can be accurately described as “certain Hall of Famers.” 

 

            Bob Feller had a 71% chance of being a Hall of Famer by age 20, which was the year the Hall of Fame opened.   Feller and Ted Williams, both born in late 1918, were by 1941 the two leading 22-year-olds in my study; no doubt that is why they call that the Greatest Generation.  Ty Cobb only makes one appearance on the list (1910) because I haven’t run the data for the other years between 1901 and 1919. . same with Babe Ruth pre-1920, also Kid Nichols pre-1900 (although nobody much talks about Kid Nichols.)  Walter Johnson, Pete Alexander. . .there are other guys who would show up on these lists if I had run the data for their years.

 

            I’m not embarrassed that Wally Bunker and Gary Nolan show up on the list as 19-year-old pitchers; after all, the number is 17%.   The system says that these guys had a one-in-six shot at developing into Hall of Famers.  They just didn’t happen to do it. 

OK, doubling back to where we were when I gave you the Henry Aaron year-by-year. . .Henry Aaron is very unusual, in that his Hall of Fame chances went up, and up, and up. . .they went from zero to 100 without ever dipping.    Most players’ Hall of Fame battles are somewhat more circuitous . . . Early Wynn, for example . . . I’ll add his conventional stats to the chart: 

 

 

Year   Age       W-L  ERA   WS  Career  HOF Chance

1939    19          0-  2  5.75        0            0                  .00

1941    21          3-  1  1.58        4            4                  .00

1942    22        10-16  5.12        3            7                  .00

1943    23        18-12  2.91      19          26                  .08

1944    24          8-17  3.38        8         34                  .01

1945    25              (War)                       34                  .00

1946    26          8-  5  3.11        9         43                  .00

1947    27        17-15  3.64      20         63                  .09

1948    28          8-19  5.82        3          66                  .00

1949    29        11-  7   4.15       8          74                  .00

1950    30        18-  8   3.20    21          95                  .10

1951    31        20-13   3.02    24        119                  .21

1952    32        23-12  2.90      21        140                  .35

1953    33        17-12  3.93      16        156                  .34

1954    34        23-11  2.73      24        180                  .47

1955    35        17-11   2.82    21        201                  .53

1956    36        20-  9   2.72    28        229                  .69

1957    37        14-17   4.31    10        239                  .60

1958    38        14-16   4.13    11        250                  .55

1959    39        22-10   3.17     23        273                  .67

1960    40        13-12   3.49     16        289                  .70

1961    41          8-  2   3.51       9        298                  .70

1962    42          7-15   4.46       5        303                  .63

1963    43          1-  2   2.28       6        309                  .77

  

            Wynn pitched in 1939, but never looked anything like a Hall of Famer until 1943, when he won 18 games.   He lost 17 games the next season, however, then went off to war, and his Hall of Fame chances dropped from 8% to zero.   He didn’t re-establish himself as a potential Hall of Famer until 1947, when he won 17 games for the Senators, putting him back on the charts at 9%.

 

            Again, however, he failed to follow through, losing 19 games the next season, and returning to his status a Hall of Fame non-candidate.  Traded to Cleveland, he began a string of outstanding seasons in 1950—eleven seasons after he had reached the majors—and built his Hall of Fame credentials in almost regular increments: 10%, 20, 30.  . by 1956 he had had seven consecutive good seasons, and was up to 69%.  

 

 

            He followed that with a couple of losing years, however, and fell back to 55%.  Winning the Cy Young Award in 1959 (he was 39 years old), he regained the ground he had lost in the previous two seasons, but it was not until 1963, when he won his 300th game, that he actually solidified his Hall of Fame credentials.   

 

            In some ways a similar career was that of Curt Simmons, Philadelphia and St. Louis left-hander of 1947-1967.  Like Wynn, Simmons early in his career spotted excellent seasons around injury seasons and seasons donated to the United States Army.   Like Wynn, he dropped off the map as a Hall of Fame candidate about age 30, but then rebuilt his career with a series of solid seasons.   As late as 1964, when the 35-year-old Simmons went 18-9 for the Cardinals, he still had a 35% chance of reaching the Hall of Fame.   He didn’t have the finishing kick that Wynn had, however, and thus ultimately failed to meet the Hall of Fame standard:   

 

Year   Age       W-L  ERA   WS  Career  HOF Chance

1947    18          1-  0  1.00        2            2                  .00

1948    19          7-13   4.97       3            5                  .00

1949    20          4-10   4.59       5          10                  .00

1950    21        17-  8   3.40     16          26                  .06

1951    22      (Military Service)              26                  .00

1952    23        14-  8   2.82     17          43                  .07

1953    24        16-13   3.21     19          62                  .15

1954    25        14-15   2.81     21          83                  .32

1955    26          8-  8   4.92       4          87                  .13

1956    27        15-10   3.36     13        100                  .11

1957    28        12-11   3.44     15        115                  .15

1958    29         7-14   4.38       6        121                  .06

1959    30          0-  0   4.50       0        121                  .00

1960    31          7-  4   3.06     15        136                  .09

1961    32          9-10   3.13     17        153                  .17

1962    33        10-10   3.51       9        162                  .15

1963    34        15-  9   2.48     18        180                  .30

1964    35        18-  9   3.43     16        196                  .35

1965    36          9-15   4.08       7        203                  .29

1966    37          5-8     4.23       4        207                  .20

1967    38          5-8     4.24       3        210                  .13      

 

            Another interesting comparison is Dick Bartell—Rowdy Dick—compared to Luke Appling, Old Aches and Pains.   Bartell and Appling, both shortstops and both singles hitters, were both born in 1907.   Bartell was seven months younger, but reached the majors three years earlier.   Bartell came up at the end of the 1927 season, was a half time player in 1928, and a full-time regular in 1929, while Appling came up at the end of 1930, was a half-time player in 1931, and a more-or-less full-time regular in 1932:

  

Year Player  Age      WS   Career Chance  Year Player Age    WS   Career Chance

1927  Bartell  19            0            0      .00

1928  Bartell  20            7            7      .00

1929  Bartell  21          16          23      .01

1930  Bartell  22          18          41      .03       1930  Appling  23          0            0      .00

1931  Bartell  23          11          52      .03       1931  Appling  24          5            5      .00

 

1932  Bartell  24          21          73      .13       1932  Appling  25        12          17      .00

1933  Bartell  25          13          86      .09       1933  Appling  26        25          42      .06

1934  Bartell  26          18        104      .13       1934  Appling  27        14          56      .02

1935  Bartell  27          18        122      .18       1935  Appling  28        24          80      .10

1936  Bartell  28          24        146      .33       1936  Appling  29        29        109      .26

1937  Bartell  29          28        174      .55       1937  Appling  30        28        137      .38

1938  Bartell  30          17        191      .52       1938  Appling  31          9        146      .18

 

1939  Bartell  31          10        201      .35       1939  Appling  32        24        170      .25

1940  Bartell  32          11        212      .24       1940  Appling  33       28        198      .40

1941  Bartell  33          15        227      .27       1941  Appling  34        29        227      .57

1942  Bartell  34          12        239      .29       1942  Appling  35       20        247      .59

1943  Bartell  35          13        252      .33       1943  Appling  36        40        287      .84

 

1944  Bartell  36  (Military Service)  .17           1944  Appling  37 (Military Service) .59

1945  Bartell  37  (Military Service)  .10           1945  Appling  38          6        293      .46

1946  Bartell  38            0        252      .07       1946  Appling  39        26        319      .67

                                   ​                         ​            1947  Appling  40        22        341      .74

                               &n​bsp;                        &n​bsp;               1948  Appling  41        17        358      .78

                           &nbs​p;                        &nbs​p;                   1949  Appling  42       19        377      .90

                         &​nbsp;                        &​nbsp;                     1950  Appling  43          1        378      .90

  

            Appling became as good a player as Bartell or a little bit better by 1933, but Bartell, given his quicker start, remained a stronger Hall of Fame candidate than Appling through 1939.   It wasn’t until 1940, when Appling outhit Bartell .348 to .233, that Appling had a better shot at the Hall of Fame.   Even then, Bartell was still ahead in career Win Shares (212 to 198), although Appling was the better Hall of Fame candidate because he was moving forward more rapidly. 

            Another fun list generated by this research is a list of the highest expected remaining value—what I have sometimes called “Trade Value”—within the study.    Who are the most valuable players ever, in terms of being young players with very high established value—thus, unlimited futures.   The top 25 within the study are:

 

Year  Player                           HOF  Age  Es Val   Ex RWS

                                               &nb​sp;                               (Trade Value)

1910   Ty Cobb                           1       23      42.5       404

1957   Mickey Mantle                  1       25       46.9        399

1921   Babe Ruth                         1       26       49.1        393

1942   Ted Williams                     1      23       40.2        382

1920   Babe Ruth                         1      27       44.9        382

 

1956   Mickey Mantle                  1      24       41.7        375

1958   Mickey Mantle                  1      26       44.8        358

1955   Mickey Mantle                  1      23       35.6        338

1935   Arky Vaughan                   1      23       35.3        335

1922   Rogers Hornsby                1      26       41.3        330

 

1936   Arky Vaughan                   1      24       36.3        327

1923   Babe Ruth                         1      28       46.4        325

1941   Ted Williams                     1      22       32.2        322

1928   Lou Gehrig                        1      25       37.5        319

1955   Eddie Mathews                 1      23       33.2        315

 

1922   Babe Ruth                         1      27       42.0        315

1944   Stan Musial                       1      23       32.8        312

1933   Jimmie Foxx                      1      25       36.6        311

1941   Bob Feller                         1      22       30.8        308

1964   Dick Allen                         0      22       30.8        308

 

1953   Eddie Mathews                 1      21       29.3        307

1937   Joe Medwick                    1      25       35.8        304

1940   Bob Feller                         1      21       28.9        303

1932   Jimmie Foxx                      1      24       33.4        301

1954   Mickey Mantle                  1      22       29.9        299

  

            The “HOF” column is “1” if this player is in the Hall of Fame—which all of these guys are except Dick Allen—and “0” if he is not (or “2” if he is not eligible, or “3” if he is in the Hall of Fame, but not as a player.)    You will note that all of the players who had extremely high expected remaining value did go on to extremely fine subsequent careers.   Below is the same chart again, except that I’ll take out the “HOF” column, eliminate redundant entries for the same player, and add the player’s ACTUAL remaining Win Shares, for the rest of his career:

 

Year    Player                       Age    Es Val          ExRWS   ActRWS

1910    Ty Cobb                      23        42.5                 404      536

1957    Mickey Mantle             25        46.9                 399      317

1921    Babe Ruth                    26        49.1                 393      472

1942    Ted Williams                23        40.2                 382      405

1935    Arky Vaughan              23        35.3                 335      226

 

1922    Rogers Hornsby           26        41.3                 330      266

1928    Lou Gehrig                   25        37.5                 319      355

1955    Eddie Mathews            23        33.2                 315      325

1944    Stan Musial                  23        32.8                 312      496

1933    Jimmie Foxx                 25        36.6                 311      232

 

1941    Bob Feller                    22        30.8                 308      155

1964    Dick Allen                    22        30.8                 308      301

1937    Joe Medwick               25        35.8                 304      151

1939    Joe DiMaggio               24        32.9                 296      259

1959    Hank Aaron                 25        34.8                 296      466

 

1969    Reggie Jackson             23        30.8                 292      376

1910    Eddie Collins                23        30.7                 292      481

1934    Mel Ott                        25        33.7                 286      315

1954    Willie Mays                  23        30.0                 285      578

1946    Hal Newhouser            25        32.6                 277      116

1972    Johnny Bench               24        30.1                 271      212

1910    Walter Johnson             22        27.0                 270      488

1962    Frank Robinson            26        33.7                 270      323

1943    Charlie Keller               26        33.4                 267        70

1974    Cesar Cedeno              23        28.1                 267      177

 

            All of these players went on to impressive subsequent careers except Charlie Keller, who was injured, and perhaps Newhouser, who had actually finished his best seasons at the time that his trade value peaked.   The actual remaining Win Shares for these players seem, at least on an intuitive level, to match the expected remaining Win Shares fairly well.  Some guys do better than expected; some players do less than expected.  On balance, it looks about right. 

 

            These charts discriminate in favor of the young.  We can remove the discrimination in favor of  the young by focusing on the player’s Established Value—a weighted average of his last four seasons, weighted in favor of the most recent.   There are 74 players within the confines of the study who had Established Value of 30.00 or higher, an accomplishment that requires either a series of MVP-candidate type seasons, or one historic season.  This chart lists those 74 players, the year in which their established value peaked, and gives their trade value and actual remaining win shares at that point for the top 25:

 

Year    Player                       Age    Es Val            Trade V      Actual Value

1921    Babe Ruth                    26        49.1                 393                  472

1957    Mickey Mantle             25        46.9                 399                  317

1910    Ty Cobb                      23        42.5                 404                  536

1949    Ted Williams                30        41.4                 248                  233

1922    Rogers Hornsby           26        41.3                 330                  266

 

1910    Honus Wanger             36        40.8                 122                  147

1975    Joe Morgan                  31        40.6                 223                  197

1965    Willie Mays                  34        40.3                 161                  173

1949    Stan Musial                  28        39.2                 274                  341

1934    Lou Gehrig                   31        38.4                 211                  133

 

1936    Hank Aaron                 29        37.1                 241                  321

1933    Jimmie Foxx                 25        36.6                 311                  232

1910    Nap Lajoie                   35        36.5                 128                    82

1936    Arky Vaughan              24        36.3                 327                  191

1931    Lefty Grove                  31        36.2                 199                  199

 

1955    Duke Snider                 28        36.0                 252                  134

1937    Joe Medwick               25        35.8                 304                  151

1936    Mel Ott                        27        35.6                 267                  244

1941    Joe DiMaggio               26        35.5                 284                  187

1968    Carl Yastrzemski          28        34.5                 242                  283

 

1961    Eddie Mathews            29        34.4                 224                  131

1952    Jackie Robinson           33        34.4                 155                    74

1910    Ed Walsh                     29        34.4                 224                    85

1967    Ron Santo                    27        34.2                 257                  129

1970    Willie McCovey           32        34.1                 171                  126

 

Others over 30.0:  Al Rosen, 1953 (34.0), Frank Robinson, 1962 (33.7), Al Simmons, 1931 (33.5), Charlie Keller, 1943 (33.4), Joe Cronin, 1933 (33.2), Bobby Murcer, 1972 (33.2), Charlie Gehringer, 1936 (33.1), Christy Mathewson, 1910 (32.9), Tris Speaker, 1920 (32.8), Dick Allen, 1967 (32.8), Frank Howard, 1969 (32.7), Hal Newhouser, 1946 (32.6), Carl Hubbell, 1936 (32.3), Hack Wilson, 1930 (32.3), Wally Berger, 1934 (32.3), Paul Waner, 1929 (32.2), Three Finger Brown, 1910 (32.1), Robin Roberts, 1954 (32.1), Johnny Mize, 1940 (32.1), Harmon Killebrew, 1967 (31.9), Sandy Koufax, 1966 (31.9), Dizzy Trout, 1944 (31.5), Norm Cash, 1961 (31.5), Ralph Kiner, 1951 (31.3), Dizzy Dean, 1936 (31.3), Mike Schmidt, 1976 (31.2), Willie Stargell, 1974 (31.1), Roberto Clemente, 1967 (31.1), Johnny Bench, 1975 (31.1), Jimmy Wynn, 1969 (31.0), Yogi Berra, 1954 (30.9), Bob Feller, 1941 (30.8), Joe Torre, 1971 (30.8), Reggie Jackson, 1969 (30.8), Larry Doby, 1954 (30.7), Eddie Collins, 1910 (30.7), Luke Appling, 1943 (30.6), Ernie Banks, 1960 (30.5), Edd Roush, 1920 (30.5), Harry Heilmann, 1925 (30.4), Goose Goslin, 1926 (30.4), Bill Terry, 1932 (30.3), Bobby Grich, 1976 (30.3), Rod Carew, 1976 (30.2), Fergie Jenkins, 1971 (30.1), Bobby Bonds, 1971 (30.1), Rusty Staub, 1971 (30.0), Earl Averill, 1934 (30.0), Steve Carlton, 1972 (30.0). 

            Since we have here a list of trade values (expected remaining future values) and a list of actual remaining values, another thing we can do is to pick out the players who had extremely high trade value, but whose actual futures were not so bright.   This list is dominated by pitchers who got hurt:

  

Year    Player                       Age    Es Val Trade Actual V   Shortfall

1936    Dizzy Dean                   26        31.3     250      35                    215

1976    Mark Fidrych               21        20.3     213        9                    204

1969    Denny McLain              25        24.4     207        7                    200

1943    Charlie Keller               26        33.4     267      70                    197

1966    Sandy Koufax              30        31.9     191        0                    191

 

1967    Jim Ray Hart                25        27.2     231      42                    189

1970    Billy Grabarkewitz        24        21.8     196      13                    183

1941    Cecil Travis                  27        25.5     191      12                    179

1900    John McGraw              27        26.8     201      24                    177

1963    Dick Ellsworth              23        24.0     228      56                    172

           

1941    Pete Reiser                   22        25.5     255      84                    171

1924    Ross Youngs                27        25.8     194      23                    171

1965    Zoilo Versalles              25        24.0     204      34                    170

1936    Wes Ferrell                  28        26.7     187      22                    165

1956    Herb Score                  23        18.8     178      14                    164

 

1926    Pete Donohue               25        21.9     186      23                    163

1953    Al Rosen                      29        34.0     221      58                    163

1947    Whitey Kurowski         29        25.8     168        5                    163

1935    Paul Dean                     21        16.5     173      12                    161

1946    Hal Newhouser            25        32.6     277    116                    161

 

1940    Chet Ross                    23        18.0     171      10                    161

1943    Lou Klein                     24        18.8     169      10                    159

1930    Freddy Lindstrom         24        24.7     222      64                    158

1920    Happy Felsch               28        22.5     158        0                    158

1940    Hal Trosky                   27        25.1     188      31                    157

 

1942    Max West                    25        19.0     162        7                    155

1937    Joe Medwick               25        35.8     304    151                    153

1941    Bob Feller                    22        30.8     308    155                    153

1947    Ralph Branca                21        19.5     205      52                    153

1950    Art Houtteman              22        18.8     188      35                    153

 

1921    Austin McHenry           25        18.8     159        7                    152

1973    Nate Colbert                27        22.0     165      13                    152

1975    Steve Busby                 25        18.7     159        7                    152

1943    Elbie Fletcher               27        24.8     186      35                    151

1920    Jim Bagby                    30        27.1     163      12                    151

 

1970    Jim Fregosi                   28        28.2     197      47                    150

1970    Bobby Tolan                24        21.8     196      46                    150

1972    Carlos May                  24        21.8     196      47                    149

1970    Sam McDowell            27        23.4     176      27                    149

1951    Ralph Kiner                  28        31.3     219      72                    147

 

            Other than pitchers who got hurt or, in some cases, sent to jail, this is another “interesting biography” list—players who seemed to have unlimited futures, but didn’t for one reason on another.   There are 40 players on this list, 16 of them pitchers, almost all of whom had arm trouble, including Dizzy Dean and his brother Paul.   Also on the list are a couple of players in died in mid-career (Youngs and McHenry), several players who lost time and ability to World War II, one player who was kicked out of baseball, several dramatic and famous injuries, and a handful of unexplained flameouts like Zoilo Versalles.    Nine players on this list made the Hall of Fame despite falling 147 or more Win Shares short of their expected remaining value.  

 

            The opposite list, players who EXCEEDED expectations by a large amount, is of no interest, being only a repeat of the list of young players who had Hall of Fame careers starting with a little-value “season” in a late callup.   A much more interesting subset of that group, however, is players who exceeded expectations by a large amount from age 30 or higher. . .that’s another list of good biographies.  I’ll put the “HOF’ column back in to mark the Hall of Famers who were late-career surprises:

 

                           &nbs​p;                        &nbs​p;                        &nbs​p;                        Surprise

Year    Player                     HOF     Age     Trade Actual V         Value

1970    Phil Niekro                   1          31        102      289                  187

1947    Hank Sauer                  0          30            5      168                  163

1957    Hoyt Wilhelm               1          33          29      192                  163

1922    Dazzy Vance                1          31          66      223                  157

1900    Cy Young                     1          33        130      281                  151

 

1951    Warren Spahn              1          30        137      286                  149

1920    Sam Rice                      1          30        104      251                  148

1946    Eddie Joost                  0          30            8      155                  147

1925    Babe Ruth                    1          30        196      330                  134

1969    Gaylord Perry               1          30        133      256                  123

 

1938    Luke Appling                1          31        111      232                  121

1961    Willie Mays                  1          30        212      333                  121

1953    Ted Williams                1          34          50      170                  120

1950    Early Wynn                  1          30          95      214                  150

1947    Sal Maglie                    0          30          11      130                  119

 

1975    Tommy John                 0          32          37      152                  115

1921    Jack Quinn                   0          37          35      149                  115

1946    Ellie Kinder                  0          31          25      139                  114

1971    Luis Tiant                     0          30          47      155                  108

1976    Joe Niekro                   0          31          25      128                  103

1970    Willie Stargell               1          30        121      223                  102

1927    Bill Terry                      1          30        122      221                    99

1947    Virgil Trucks                 0          30          46      144                    98

1948    Mickey Vernon            0          30          83      181                    98

1920    Ken Williams                0          30          77      171                    94

 

            There are two players on this list (Dazzy Vance and Hoyt Wilhelm) who made the Hall of Fame after being listed as having zero percent probability at age 30 (or later), and seven others who made the Hall of Fame after having only a very slim chance at age 30.   Again, we have mostly pitchers, proving again that pitchers are difficult to predict, and other than pitchers we have late-in-life surprises like Hank Sauer, Sam Rice, Ken Williams and Eddie Joost, along with a few superstars whose careers ran on longer than even superstar careers usually run on.   We have another pair of brothers, the Niekros, which officially makes the Niekros the historical opposite of the Dean brothers.  Jim Perry didn’t make the list, but can’t have missed it by very much.

V.  Current Players

 

            OK, we’ve farted around along enough here.   Looking up the Hall of Fame candidates from 1933 is fun and instructive in its own little way, but the real purpose of the research is to tell us where people stand right now.  What current players are Hall of Fame locks, which are on target, and should we abandon all hope for Miguel Batista? 

 

            Unfortunately, I can’t run the numbers yet; I’m waiting on the 2002 Win Shares.   I’ll have to come back to this when I get the 2002 data.

 

VI.  How the System Could Be Improved

 

            Let me begin by pointing out something that probably isn’t a flaw in the system.  Back in the early part of this article, when I was documenting that the system works, you probably noticed that most of our estimates were within reasonable ranges, but appeared a little high.   Of players whom we believed had a 90 to 99% chance to go into the Hall of Fame, 91% have—but the percentage should be around 94 or 95%.   All up and down the chart, our numbers look a little low.

 

            But this probably isn’t a flaw in the system, and I wouldn’t try to “correct” it.   The Hall of Fame is still electing people.   While most of the players from the era 1920-1976 who are going to be in the Hall of Fame are probably there by now, not all of them are.  Suppose the Hall of Fame comes to its senses and elects Ron Santo, or suppose it loses its senses, and elects Dick Allen?    That 91% figure then would—eventually it will—become 92%, or 93%, or 94%.

 

            If I re-calibrated the system now so that 95% of the players listed at 90-99% were in the Hall of Fame, the system would simply need to be re-calibrated again as soon as there were a handful of new selections.   That would be a waste of time.    There is little or no reason to believe that our 90-99% estimate is too high; it is much more likely simply that history is not finished yet.   The Hall of Fame has not yet selected quite everybody that they are going to select.  

 

            However, even if we assume that our estimates are dead on target. . .that is, that of players that we say have a 74% chance of going into the Hall of Fame, 74% eventually do. ..even if that is true, our system can still be improved.   Looking at them as individuals, each player either is a Hall of Famer, or isn’t.  The only way a system could be 100% accurate would be to say about each player “yes” or “no”—0% or 100%--and be right every time.

 

            Of course, we can’t ever achieve that level of accuracy, but we can move in that direction by pushing people toward the margins.   If we can push the figures for the players who eventually will be in the Hall of Fame up and push the figures for the players who won’t be in the Hall of Fame down, then we have a better system.   We can improve the system, while retaining the accuracy we have now, by pushing people toward the margins—creating more 80% estimates, more 90%, and fewer of those nebulous “tweener” numbers which just define groups of players, some of whom might be Hall of Famers. 

 

            How could that be accomplished?   The three most obvious ways that the system could be improved would be:

 

            1)  Reduce or eliminate the “bad zero” estimates for young players,

            2)  Take into account the impact of big seasons, and

            3)  Recognize that catchers are different. 

           

            a)  Reducing or eliminating the “bad zero” estimates for young players.

 

            Henry Aaron, as a 20-year-old player in 1954, hit .280 with 13 home runs, 69 RBI.  Back when I showed you the Henry Aaron year-by-year chart, it said that Aaron after that season had a zero percent (established) chance of becoming a Hall of Famer at that time.

 

            Well, obviously, that doesn’t quite make sense.  There are very limited number of players who play this well at the age of 20.   From 1920 through 1976 there were 37 players (non-pitchers) who earned 10 Win Shares or more at age 20; Aaron, with 13, was near the middle of this group.   In that group of 37 players are Aaron, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Ted Williams, Al Kaline, Mel Ott, Frank Robinson, Johnny Bench, Jimmie Foxx, Arky Vaughan, Orlando Cepeda, Travis Jackson, Freddy Lindstrom, Eddie Mathews, Bobby Doerr, Bill Mazeroski and Robin Yount (not to mention a number of other players who had distinguished careers and might yet make the Hall of Fame, like Vada Pinson and Joe Torre.)  Aaron’s chance of being a Hall of Famer, at age 20, far from being zero, was probably somewhere near 50%.   It’s just that our system is structured in such a way—looking for performance over a period of seasons, and projecting it forward in a normal progression—that it can’t pick it up.   The system needs some sort of sub-routine to focus on this type of players, and recognize their Hall of Fame potential as soon as it emerges.

 

            While this particular example is unusual, many or most Hall of Famers start their career with a near-zero-value season at age 21 or 22.   The system thus assumes that they have a zero percent chance of making the Hall of Fame.  This is not the best assumption.   Among all players who get late-season looks at ages 21 or 22, the percentage who go on to Hall of Fame careers is low—but it’s certainly not zero.   The system should recognize the Hall of Fame potential of these players.    We have 208 bad zero estimates in our study.  Realistically, almost all of those could and should be eliminated.   The only bad-zero estimates that we couldn’t get rid of would be those for players who have very unusual career paths, like Dazzy Vance and perhaps Hoyt Wilhelm. 

           

            b)  Taking into account big-impact seasons.

 

            Hank Greenberg was credited with 267 Win Shares in his career; Ron Fairly, with 269.  Greenberg was in the Hall of Fame ten years after he retired; Fairly was dropped from the ballot after drawing only 1% of the vote in 1985. 

 

Sandy Koufax, with 194 career Win Shares, was elected to the Hall of Fame the first time his face appeared on the ballot.  Virgil Trucks, with 198 Win Shares, was dropped from the ballot after drawing only 2% in his first year.   What’s the difference?

 

            Obviously, Jewish sports writers.  No, seriously, the difference is big-impact seasons.    Greenberg and Koufax had short careers, but monster seasons. 

 

            One can track this in the system by, in essence, double-counting (or even triple-counting) Win Shares over 20.   Koufax had seasons of 32, 24, 33 and 35 Win Shares—a total of 44 Win Shares above the “all-star” level of 20 Win Shares in a season.   Trucks’ “big impact total” is 14.  Greenberg’s total for “big impact seasons” is 78; Fairly’s is 8.    If you add the big impact total to the raw Win Shares, Greenberg is at 345, Fairly at 277. 

 

            There is no reason the system couldn’t, or shouldn’t, track big-impact seasons in this way or some other.  The only reason it hasn’t been done is just the work that it would require to re-calculate the values and re-calibrate the whole system.

 

            c)  Recognizing that Catchers are different.

 

            Rick Ferrell is in the Hall of Fame with 206 Win Shares, Roy Campanella with 207, Ernie Lombardi with 218.   Some other players are in with similar totals, but not very many.  Catchers have short careers, and the Hall of Fame has (appropriatelly) adjusted for this.  So should we.

 

            If I was going to put another month into refining this system, those would be the first things I would look at.   There are, however, many other things that could be done to perfect the system.   Among those are:

 

            1)  Treat different skills differently.

 

            Tim Raines had 390 Win Shares through 2001, which causes the system to view him as a near-certain Hall of Famer.  In fact, Raines may not be all that certain to earn Hall of Fame selection, because he doesn’t do the things the Hall of Fame prefers.   If Raines could trade half of his career walks for half as many singles, this would make him

 

            a) less valuable (since a single is not worth twice as much as a walk), but

            b) much more certain to earn quick selection to the Hall of Fame, since this would raise his career batting average to around .320, and give him comfortably more than 3000 hits.

 

            The other system, the Hall of Fame monitor, looks essentially at whether the player does the things the Hall of Fame likes—whether he gets 200 hits in a season, whether he drives in 100 runs, whether he wins batting titles.  This system ignores all of that, and studies only the issue of the quality of performance.   I don’t want to turn this system into another version of that one, but there is some truth in each approach.  A system which could look at a broader spectrum of information, as cumbersome as that might be, would be able to reach a greater level of accuracy.

 

            2)  Find some way to take notice of post-season play.

 

            Post-season play helped put Rollie Fingers in the Hall of Fame, and it very possibly will do the same for Mariano Rivera.  A perfect system would take this possibility into account. 

 

            3)  Make some allowances for park effects and other important record distortions.    

 

            Craig Biggio has been as good a player as Roberto Alomar, but the fact is that the public still does not recognize this, and probably never will.    A pitcher who pitches on good teams has a tremendous advantage in terms of earning recognition, relative to his actual value.  A system which focuses only on actual value has no chance to deal with these things. 

 

            4)  Find ways to recognize and eliminate players who show up as low-level Hall of Fame candidates based on an early start and a period of solid years, but who are clearly not Hall of Famers.

 

            These guys are the opposite of the “bad zeroes”; these are the “false positives”.   By 1955 Elmer Valo had been in the major leagues since 1940.   He had not been a regular for six years—yet in our study, based on his 155 career Win Shares and steady forward progress, he still shows as having a 2% chance of having a Hall of Fame career.  This is not necessary; there should be some way for the system to identify those kind of guys and shoot them down. 

 

            But nothing is perfect, and this is a good system.   Whether I will get the time to work more on it, make some of these changes. . .I don’t know.   As it is, I am happy to add it to the chest of tools with which I study the game, and I will plan to update you regularly on where current players stand with regard to Hall of Fame credentials. 

 
 

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