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November 10, 2008

            I had a question recently in the “Hey, Bill” section about whether the tendency of the Gold Glove voters to award the Gold Glove to guys who are big names because they are big hitters has gotten worse in recent years.   I suppose the first thing I should say in response to this is that the Gold Glove voting system has never been a good one.  I generally defend the Gold Glove voting, because

            1)  I have always thought it was useful to have an actual record of the subjective judgments of the time, even when those subjective judgments are whacko, and

            2)  Some people overstate how bad the voting is.

            The Gold Glove selections aren’t systematically bad, but they are spotty.   It is an extremely bad voting system, that leads frequently to poor selections, and leads sometimes to absolutely ridiculous voting selections.  It always has. 

  • In 1958, an American League Gold Glove in the outfield went to Norm Siebern, who was with the Yankees and hit .300, but who was not a good outfielder.  Siebern embarrassed the then-new award by making a costly mistake in the outfield in the third game of the ’58 World Series, then making two costly mistakes in the fourth game, quickly becoming notorious for his defense.  He spent almost all of the rest of his career as a first baseman.
  • From 1962 to 1977, Jim Kaat won a Gold Glove every year whether he deserved it or not.   Kaat was a wonderful fielder, a big guy who was nonetheless extremely quick and quite graceful—but some of his Gold Glove selections are absurd.  In 1965 he led American League pitchers in errors, with 6, fielding .929 (which actually was up a point from 1964, when he had fielded .928)—but won the Gold Glove anyway.   In 1969 he led all major league pitchers in errors with 8, fielding .826 (!), but won the Gold Glove anyway.  In 1972 he missed over the half the season with an injury, fielded .923—and won the Gold Glove anyway.   In 1977 he fielded .897—but won the Gold Glove anyway.  
  • In 1975 Joe Rudi won a Gold Glove in the outfield although he had played only 44 games in the outfield, having played first base most of the year (91 games at first.)
  • In 1999 Rafael Palmeiro won the Gold Glove at first base although he had been a DH most of the season, playing just 28 games at first.

These Gold Glove selections are beyond defense; they are simply and obviously wrong.   Usually the poor selections—like those this year of Michael Young and Nate McLouth—are less definitively wrong.    Until the last few years our ways of measuring defense were (a) not very reliable and (b) not widely circulated.   It may be that the Gold Glove awards are no worse than ever, but that they appear worse because the public knows much more now, and is less accepting of awards being given to less-qualified players. 

The essential problem with the Gold Glove vote is that it is an unconstrained plurality with few parameters.   An unconstrained plurality is always at risk of delivering an irrational result, because in certain circumstances it allows fifteen or twenty percent of the voters to determine the outcome.  The Gold Glove voting system is founded on two principles:

      1)  If we get the right people to vote, the system will work, and

      2)  The right people to vote on this award are the coaches and managers.

      Both of these principles are nonsense.  Coaches and managers don’t really know who is a good fielder and who isn’t.   Some do and some don’t, but it isn’t essential to their job to know that.   Many of them don’t take the vote seriously, in the sense that they don’t do anything to prepare for the vote.   And the idea that if you get the right people to vote the system will work is childish nonsense, ignorant of history.  

      That’s not to say that the system always fails.   The system gets a reasonable result 80, 85% of the time.   The problem is that the system CAN fail horribly, so it does sometimes.   There’s no second tier to the vote; there’s no preliminary screening or meaningful eligibility criteria, no review.  It’s just. . .we vote, we announce the winners.   Even if it’s Nate McLoud or Rafael Palmeiro.

      Anyway, the question before the house is whether the tendency to select the best hitters as the Gold Glove winners has gotten worse over time.   The answer is that it has not.  The Gold Glove winners have always been generally very good hitters; in fact, there has never a year in which the Gold Glove winners were not, in general, above-average hitters.   

      I studied the issue in this way.   First, I took from each season the players with the most plate appearances, up to a number equivalent to ten times the number of teams in the majors—that is, 160 players from 1957-1960, 180 in 1961, 200 from 1962-1968, 240 from 1969-1976, 260 from 1977-1992, 280 from 1993-1997, and 300 from 1998 to the present.    It works out loosely to “everybody with 250 or more plate appearances”.  The most plate appearances by any player excluded from the study was 276, by Johnny Edwards in 1973, and the fewest plate appearances by any player who was included in the study, other than the 1981 and 1994 seasons, was 230, by several different players (there are several different years in which the cutoff ends at 230.   In the strike years the cutoff goes as low as 164.) 

      Anyway, we have ten players per team per season. . .not ten players from each and every team, but ten on average in every year.   The regulars.   I then sorted these players by OPS, and coded the top 10% as “10”, the next 10% as “9”, the next 10% as “8”, etc.    I then looked at the scores of the Gold Glove winners (ignoring the pitchers, of course.)

      That may sound easy, but remember:  I’m not a programmer.   It took me about ten hours.   Anyway, the one season in which the Gold Glove winners were the best hitters, relative to norms, was. ..well, actually, there were two seasons.  1967 and 1984.  These are the Gold Glove Teams for those two seasons:    

Pos

Player

YEAR

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Perf Gp

AL C

Bill Freehan

1967

20

74

.282

.835

10

AL 1B

George Scott

1967

19

82

.303

.839

10

AL 2B

Bobby Knoop

1967

9

38

.245

.657

4

AL 3B

Brooks Robinson

1967

22

77

.269

.763

8

AL SS

Jim Fregosi

1967

9

56

.290

.744

8

AL OF

Carl Yastrzemski

1967

44

121

.326

1.040

10

AL OF

Paul Blair

1967

11

64

.293

.799

9

AL OF

Al Kaline

1967

25

78

.308

.952

10

NL C

Randy Hundley

1967

14

60

.267

.725

7

NL 1B

Wes Parker

1967

5

31

.247

.704

6

NL 2B

Bill Mazeroski

1967

9

77

.261

.644

4

NL 3B

Ron Santo

1967

31

98

.300

.906

10

NL SS

Gene Alley

1967

6

55

.287

.728

7

NL OF

Willie Mays

1967

22

70

.263

.787

9

NL OF

Curt Flood

1967

5

50

.335

.793

9

NL OF

Roberto Clemente

1967

23

110

.357

.954

10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Player

YEAR

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Perf Gp

AL C

Lance Parrish

1984

33

98

.237

.730

6

AL 1B

Eddie Murray

1984

29

110

.306

.918

10

AL 2B

Lou Whitaker

1984

13

56

.289

.764

7

AL 3B

Buddy Bell

1984

11

83

.315

.840

9

AL SS

Alan Trammell

1984

14

69

.314

.851

9

AL OF

Dave Winfield

1984

19

100

.340

.908

10

AL OF

Dwayne Murphy

1984

33

88

.256

.814

9

AL OF

Dwight Evans

1984

32

104

.295

.920

10

NL C

Tony Pena

1984

15

78

.286

.758

7

NL 1B

Keith Hernandez

1984

15

94

.311

.859

10

NL 2B

Ryne Sandberg

1984

19

84

.314

.887

10

NL 3B

Mike Schmidt

1984

36

106

.277

.919

10

NL SS

Ozzie Smith

1984

1

44

.257

.684

4

NL OF

Dale Murphy

1984

36

100

.290

.919

10

NL OF

Bob Dernier

1984

3

32

.278

.718

5

NL OF

Andre Dawson

1984

17

86

.248

.710

5

     The average performance group for every major league season, by this method, is 5.500; it cannot go higher or lower. 

      The average batting performance group of the Gold Glove teams in these two seasons was 8.19.  The average was high in 1967 because 1) good-hitting catchers won the Gold Glove in both leagues, 2) a very good-hitting shortstop won the Gold Glove in the American League, and 3) the NL’s Gold Glove shortstop also had a good year with the bat.  This left the second basemen, Knoop and Mazeroski, as the only below-average hitters on the team.   The NL’s Gold Glove first baseman, Wes Parker, was a famous good-field, no-hit player, but his .704 OPS for 1967 was 40 points above the major league average.    In a year in which only 16 major league regulars hit .300—one per team—six of the sixteen won Gold Gloves.

      In 1967 nine Gold Glove winners where in the top 20% of all hitters; in 1984 ten were.  Three Gold Glove winners of 1984 were below-average hitters—Bob Dernier, Andre Dawson and Ozzie Smith—but none of them were much below average.   .300 hitters and power hitters dominate both teams.

      The weakest-hitting Gold Glove teams of all time were in 1962 and 1964.  The teams above had an “average offensive performance group” of 8.19; in 1962 the average was 6.06, and in 1964 it was 6.13. 

Pl

Player

YEAR

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Perf Gp

AL C

Earl Battey

1962

11

57

.280

.741

5

AL 1B

Vic Power

1962

16

63

.290

.737

5

AL 2B

Bobby Richardson

1962

8

59

.302

.743

6

AL 3B

Brooks Robinson

1962

23

86

.303

.828

8

AL SS

Luis Aparicio

1962

7

40

.241

.614

1

AL OF

Mickey Mantle

1962

30

89

.321

1.091

10

AL OF

Jim Landis

1962

15

61

.228

.711

4

AL OF

Al Kaline

1962

29

94

.304

.969

10

NL C

Del Crandall

1962

8

45

.297

.765

6

NL 1B

Bill White

1962

20

102

.324

.868

9

NL 2B

Ken Hubbs

1962

5

49

.260

.646

2

NL 3B

Jim Davenport

1962

14

58

.297

.813

8

NL SS

Maury Wills

1962

6

48

.299

.720

4

NL OF

Bill Virdon

1962

6

47

.247

.631

1

NL OF

Willie Mays

1962

49

141

.304

.999

10

NL OF

Roberto Clemente

1962

10

74

.312

.805

8

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pl

Player

YEAR

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Perf Gp

AL C

Elston Howard

1964

15

84

.313

.825

9

AL 1B

Vic Power

1964

3

17

.239

.570

1

AL 2B

Bobby Richardson

1964

4

50

.267

.626

2

AL 3B

Brooks Robinson

1964

28

118

.317

.889

10

AL SS

Luis Aparicio

1964

10

37

.266

.688

4

AL OF

Vic Davalillo

1964

6

51

.270

.663

4

AL OF

Jim Landis

1964

1

18

.208

.577

1

AL OF

Al Kaline

1964

17

68

.293

.851

9

NL C

Johnny Edwards

1964

7

55

.281

.721

6

NL 1B

Bill White

1964

21

102

.303

.829

9

NL 2B

Bill Mazeroski

1964

10

64

.268

.681

4

NL 3B

Ron Santo

1964

30

114

.312

.962

10

NL SS

Ruben Amaro

1964

4

34

.264

.648

3

NL OF

Willie Mays

1964

47

111

.296

.990

10

NL OF

Curt Flood

1964

5

46

.311

.734

6

NL OF

Roberto Clemente

1964

12

87

.339

.872

10

    In 1962 (which was a hitter’s year) only three high-impact hitters won Gold Gloves, those being the Hall of Fame outfielders Mantle, Mays and Kaline, while two guys won Gold Gloves who hit in the .240s with little power and few walks (Virdon and Aparicio.)   In 1964, although four high-impact hitters won Gold Gloves, they were joined by an outfielder who hit .208 (Jim Landis), a first baseman who drove in only 17 runs (Vic Power), and five more below-average hitters.

      But, in fact, the differences between the 1964 team—one of the weakest-hitting of all time—and the 1967 team—one of the strongest—are not that great, nor are these years separated in time by a margin large enough for us to describe them as coming from different eras with different attitudes about who should win the Gold Glove, the Oscar, the Emmy or the hand of the maiden.   Even the weakest-hitting Gold Glove team, the 1962 team, had a performance group average of 6.06, as opposed to a league average of 5.50.   Even in 1962 half of the Gold Glove winners hit .290 or better.  These disparate votes, really, are just something that happened.  Vic Power in ’64 wound up with a Gold Glove in ’64 because he was a brilliant defensive first baseman, and even though he was on the way out by ’64, no one else had stepped forward to claim that position, so some of the voters went back to Power.   It doesn’t really say ANYTHING about the era or the beliefs of Gold Glove voters; it is just something that happened.

      The “average Offensive Performance Group” of all 52 Gold Glove teams is summarized in the chart below:

YEAR

Average

 

YEAR

Average

 

YEAR

Average

1957

7.75

 

1974

7.56

 

1991

7.88

1958

6.75

 

1975

6.31

 

1992

7.06

1959

7.75

 

1976

7.25

 

1993

7.56

1960

7.38

 

1977

6.63

 

1994

7.25

1961

6.44

 

1978

6.81

 

1995

6.75

1962

6.06

 

1979

7.19

 

1996

7.69

1963

6.50

 

1980

6.88

 

1997

7.88

1964

6.13

 

1981

7.00

 

1998

7.31

1965

7.63

 

1982

7.69

 

1999

7.69

1966

7.19

 

1983

7.44

 

2000

7.25

1967

8.19

 

1984

8.19

 

2001

7.31

1968

7.00

 

1985

7.29

 

2002

7.06

1969

6.69

 

1986

7.13

 

2003

7.06

1970

6.44

 

1987

7.06

 

2004

6.63

1971

6.31

 

1988

6.81

 

2005

6.94

1972

6.38

 

1989

6.31

 

2006

7.00

1973

6.44

 

1990

7.00

 

2007

7.47

 

 

 

 

 

 

2008

7.19

       These are the 2008 Gold Glove teams:

Pos

Name

Year

HR

RBI

Avg

OPS

Perf Gp

AL C

Mauer,Joe

2008

9

85

.328

.864

8

AL 1B

Pena,Carlos

2008

31

102

.247

.871

9

AL 2B

Pedroia,Dustin

2008

17

83

.326

.869

9

AL 3B

Beltre,Adrian

2008

25

77

.266

.784

6

AL SS

Young,Michael

2008

12

82

.284

.741

4

AL OF

Hunter,Torii

2008

21

78

.278

.810

7

AL OF

Sizemore,Grady

2008

33

90

.268

.876

9

AL OF

Suzuki,Ichiro

2008

6

42

.310

.747

5

NL C

Molina,Yadier

2008

7

56

.304

.740

4

NL 1B

Gonzalez,Adrian

2008

36

119

.279

.871

9

NL 2B

Phillips,Brandon

2008

21

78

.261

.754

5

NL 3B

Wright,David

2008

33

124

.302

.924

10

NL SS

Rollins,Jimmy

2008

11

59

.277

.786

6

NL OF

Beltran,Carlos

2008

27

112

.284

.876

9

NL OF

Victorino,Shane

2008

14

58

.293

.799

7

NL OF

McLouth,Nate

2008

26

94

.276

.853

8

 Only one true top-level hitter—David Wright—won a Gold Glove in 2008.   Numerous other top-level hitters could and perhaps should have won—Kevin Youkilis (10), Albert Pujols (10), Alex Rodriguez (10), Mark Teixeira (10), J. D. Drew (10), Chase Utley (10), Josh Hamilton (10), Nick Markakis (10), Matt Holliday (10).  Evan Longoria (9).   I personally would have voted for Youkilis over Pena, Pujols over Gonzalez, Markakis over Ichiro, and Matt Holliday over Nate McLouth—but they didn’t win.

            People say that Michael Young won the AL Shortstop Award with his bat, but look at who didn’t win:  Aviles (8), Peralta (7), and Jeter (6).  And, if the voters are just going for the best hitters, what about Chase Utley?   Utley is clearly the best-hitting second baseman in the NL, and he is an outstanding defensive player as well—but he didn’t win.   The vote went to a much weaker hitter.  

      We could do a trend-line analysis of this data in different ways.  If you take a ten-year moving average, the lowpoint of that line would be 1978, and the highpoint would be 2000.  From 1969 to 1978 more weak hitters won Gold Gloves than in any other ten-year period.   From 1991 to 2000, fewer weak hitters won Gold Gloves than in any other period.  In other words, the tendency to give Gold Gloves to good hitters was stronger in the 1990s than in any other time period.   Since 2000 this ten-year average has trended downward:

 

End Year

 

Ten-Year Moving Average

 

2000

 

7.43

 

2001

 

7.38

 

2002

 

7.38

 

2003

 

7.33

 

2004

 

7.26

 

2005

 

7.28

 

2006

 

7.21

 

2007

 

7.17

 

2008

 

7.16

     The overall average for the 52-year-history of the award is 7.09.   Both the 2008 figure (7.19) and the ten-year moving average (7.16) are very near the historic norms. 

      I do believe that the numbers have trended downward since 2000 in part because of the Rafael Palmeiro fiasco in 1999.   I think that that woke people up a little bit, and got them to take their votes a little bit more seriously.   However, in general, there is little evidence of an actual change in how voters are influenced by hitting stats in selecting Gold Glove winners.  It has always been a valuable and flawed process in which big hitters do well; it is still a valuable and flawed process in which big hitters do well.

 
 

COMMENTS (7 Comments, most recent shown first)

kingelvis
Just joined the site, and reading stuff like this proves my money is well spent. Fantastic article! Interesting hypothesis that the tendency to reward great-hitting players with Gold Gloves has declined in part because of the Palmeiro embarrassment...
2:05 PM Nov 16th
 
davemac32001
Giving credit to great athletes - I would think the basic skills/abilities that produce terrific offensive players are at least somewhat transferable to their defensive play. While there are always going to be those on the outside - the great slugger with the concrete glove and the slick fielding "Mendoza line" shortstop - I would think that the general trend would be for groups of better hitters to also be better fielders when compared to the whole. What do you think?
11:22 AM Nov 16th
 
Richie
The Marvell Wynnes and Eddie Milners of the MLB world don't get awards. Nor do 24-year-olds get Gold Gloves, unless they're lights-out great and play on a very prominent team.

Or so I'm supposing. Feel free to research me wrong, though I'd likewise suppose you have far better things to attend to.
10:38 AM Nov 12th
 
belewfripp
Isn't part of the reason good-hitting players - for their positions - tend to do well because good-hitting players tend to get more playing time and exposure than players who hit worse?
1:16 AM Nov 12th
 
Tim
Great article-it answered my question perfectly. I guess my observations were completely wrong.
7:41 PM Nov 11th
 
bjames
Actually I was just noticing that all three of the '84 NL Gold Gloves were questionable. Murphy was never a legitimate Gold Glove outfielder, Dernier was a short-term regular who couldn't throw, and Andre Dawson was limping around with bad knees on artificial turf. Better selections in '84 might have been Willie McGee, Marvelle Wynne, Eddie Milner and the 24-year-old Chili Davis.
11:48 PM Nov 10th
 
Richie
Excellent article, responding quickly to a reader question. Well done, good and faithful web site owner.

Another bad Gold Glove award, if I recall correctly. Dale Murphy getting a Gold Glove, then being moved out of center field by the Braves in spring training of next year.
10:32 PM Nov 10th
 
 
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