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June 1, 2009

 

1.  Apology 1

 

          I need to begin this week for begging your forgiveness for a couple of my failings.   First, there was a letter in the Hey, Bill, section a couple of weeks ago from a writer who signed off as “Igor”.   Igor’s question was:

 

From 1993-2003 MLB not only encouraged steroid use but thrived on developing 16-18 year old latino/dominican players to gain size and strength on their small frames. Do you forsee their being a decrease in not only scouting but signing these players at a young age? Also, do you see this as the reason fundamental baseball (defense) and asian born players are in such high demand today? Signing bonuses went through the roof in 94 & I think MLB shifted more to Latino b/c they could sign them for next to nothing. Latinos had nothing to fall back on at home so they did anything to make the bigs. I feel MLB should take the blame for the steroid use since no policy was in place & quit looking to go after players from this era. MLB basically forced Bonds to prove he was the best player. He was the best until others caught up to him b/c of the roids. So he basically took it into his hands and proved he was the best. Do you see anything in this argument?

            My response to this question, which I won’t repeat here, was rude and hostile.   If Igor had deliberately insulted my children’s intelligence, my father’s courage and my wife’s accessories, it might still have been considered harsh.  I accused the poor man of racism, paranoia and massive ignorance—and that was in the first sentence.   I went on for three paragraphs.  This wasn’t necessary, and it wasn’t appropriate. 

            Igor’s question irritated me because. . .well, let’s not get into that.   That will make the problem worse.   I have a friend who talks often about learning to disagree without being disagreeable.  I’ve always had some issues with that.   I have problems with learning to disagree without snapping into total destruction mode.      But the response I should have given is something more like this:

 

            I don’t know that it is helpful to link the steroid discussion to the nationality of the players.   The Latin American players have been accused of bringing this problem into the game, but the reality is that steroids entered baseball from many sources.   Steroids were widely used in high school football programs in America in the 1970s and 1980s, routinely used in some places.   Almost every American who played major league baseball in the 1980s or 1990s played high school football in the 1970s or 1980s.   This was a wide-open channel for steroids to enter baseball unless there was effective leadership to keep them out, and MLB totally dropped the ball on keeping them out.   So, yes, MLB is responsible for it, and yes, we should quit attacking the players who were renegades in a renegade society, but I don’t see the value in bringing the Latino issue into it. 

 

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2.  Apology 2

 

            My other apology is of a different nature, having to do with a different failing.   Several times here over the past few weeks, I have described the NBA as “minor league” basketball, and NCAA basketball as “real” basketball. 

            I had a purpose in mind in doing this.  I was trying to get my readers to challenge their assumptions.    I have an article I need to write somewhere about what makes a league a “major” league.   Is Japanese baseball major league baseball, or isn’t it?  (It is.)  I believe that many people assume that what makes a league a major league is simply having the best players.  That’s not true—or, in my opinion, it’s not true.   That’s one element of being a major league; there are others.   I was trying, by asserting that the NBA is the minor league and college basketball the major, to shake people out of their assumptions, and get them to look at the issue in a different way.

            But the fact that I had a reason for doing this doesn’t mean that it was the right thing to do or say.  By saying that the NBA was minor league basketball, I insulted the NBA, the NBA players, and people who work in the NBA, several of whom are my friends.   I offended people who are NBA fans.  I didn’t stop to think about that—or, worse yet, maybe I did see that out of the corner of my eye, but I just didn’t pay attention to it. 

            The NBA is not minor league basketball, of course.   It was a stupid thing to say, and I shouldn’t have said it.   The NBA has some issues.   I have some things I want to say about what makes a league a “major” league, and I will still get to those, but I should not have chosen to try to make my point in this thoughtless manner.  

 

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3.  Making Bob Feller Whole

 

            I wrote last week that it turns out to be impossible to fill in the World War II gap in Bob Feller’s career with similar seasons by other pitchers, because there just aren’t any similar seasons by other pitchers.   How, then, can we create a record for Bob Feller, to represent what he might reasonably have done during the four years that he gave in service to your liberty?

            Of course, someone at this point is obligated to point out that, had Feller pitched 300-350 innings a year from 1942-1945 (as he did in the other years 1939-1946), there is a substantial probability that he would have had an injury that curtailed his career long before its natural end.   This is certainly possible—and it is possible that he would not have.   All I’m saying is, let’s assume the latter, and fill in the gap.   How do we do that?

            What I did was, I started with a list of pitchers from the Retrosheet era who had some characteristics that we need to clone Bob Feller—strikeouts, walks, complete games, etc.  The pitchers I chose were Bob Turley (1954 and 1955), Herb Score (1956), Sam Jones (1959), Bob Veale (1964 and 1965), Jim Maloney (1965), Bob Gibson (1965), Mickey Lolich (1969), Nolan Ryan (1972, 1973 and 1974), J. R. Richard (1978), and John Hiller (1973).  Hiller was included because Feller in his prime would pitch in relief about five times a year.

            I went to Retrosheet and downloaded Game Logs for all of those pitchers, and moved these into a spreadsheet.    This gave me 565 pitcher game lines in a spreadsheet.  The total of those games was 256 wins, 172 losses, 2.83 ERA, 3,684 strikeouts, 1,874 walks in 3,738 innings. 

            That’s not terribly far from a Bob Feller level of performance to begin with, but we can move it closer to the level we need by selectively removing some of the games.  I set 12 “targets” to represent Feller’s performance.  To establish the targets for Feller in the years 1942-1945, I simply used the total of the four surrounding years (1939-1941 and 1946)—174 games, 102 wins, 48 losses, 2.68 ERA, 7.54 strikeouts per nine innings, 4.10 walks per nine innings, etc.

            Then I targeted games for elimination by counting in how many ways each game line was helpful, and in how many ways it was unhelpful.    Since the winning percentage was too low, losses were unhelpful, whereas wins were helpful.    Since the walks per nine innings were too high, high-walk games were unhelpful, whereas low-walk games were helpful.   Since the ERA was initially too high, high-ERA games were unhelpful, whereas low-ERA games were helpful.  

            I counted how many ways in which each season was helpful or unhelpful, and added a random number so that which games would be removed would not be too strictly logical, since that would cause the systematic removal of the “extreme” games, leaving “mid-range” or “un-exceptional” games in the file.   Then I would remove ten “unhelpful” games, and repeat the process.  

            By doing this, I was able to form a set of games which almost perfectly represented Bob Feller-level performance.     This consumes man hours and I don’t really have the time at the moment, but I enjoy doing it.   You can take Frank Thomas games and select from them so that he looks like A. J. Pierzynski, or you can select A. J. Pierzynski games and make him look like Frank Thomas.    It’s fun, in a certain mad-scientist sort of way—making Ichiro Suzuki out of Vladimir Guerrero, making Nomar Garciaparra out of Juan Pierre.   I have to remember not to cackle while I’m doing this.    

            Anyway, once you have the games selected, you can simply randomly sort out 42 to 46 of them, and you have another Bob Feller season.   You can repeat the process 1,000 times, and make 1,000 Bob Feller seasons.     Don’t ask me why I enjoy this. 

            I didn’t actually create 1,000 Bob Feller seasons; since I only needed four, I just created 200.   Our problem now is that we have 200 Bob Feller seasons, and we only need four of them.    The best of these 200 Bob Feller seasons were:

 

G

GS

CG

ShO

IP

SO

BB

W-L

ERA

44

41

35

10

359.2

325

128

32-7

1.83

45

41

34

10

369.2

294

151

35-6

1.80

45

42

34

10

366.0

319

144

33-8

1.99

 

 

            And the worst were:

 

G

GS

CG

ShO

IP

SO

BB

W-L

ERA

46

39

26

5

326.0

273

175

17-20

3.34

42

37

25

3

288.2

231

145

19-16

3.62

43

38

22

6

306.0

237

144

19-20

3.03

 

            Of the 200 Bob Feller seasons:

 

  • 22 were 30-win seasons,
  • 121 were seasons of 25 or more wins,
  • 194 (or 97%) were seasons of 20 or more wins,
  • 34 were seasons of 300 or more strikeouts,
  • 157 were seasons of 250 or more strikeouts,
  • All had at least 200 strikeouts,
  • 5 had ERAs under 2.00,
  • 65 had ERAs under 2.50,
  • 165 had ERAs no higher than 3.00, and
  • Only two had losing records.

 

            At least 80% of these Bob Feller seasons would be Cy Young seasons by modern standards, although the Cy Young Award was not introduced until ten years after the war. 

We can estimate that, had Bob Feller’s career continued forward from 1941 without any disruption from the war (that is, if World War II had never happened), and had he remained healthy throughout those years, there is a 37% chance that he would have had a 30-victory season, whereas there is only a 4% chance that he would have had a losing record in any of the four seasons.

 

            Anyway, our immediate task is to choose four seasons from these 200 to best represent Feller.   I decided to look for seasons that were entirely within the norms of Feller’s actual 1939-1946 performance in as many areas as possible.   I was left, however, with 64 seasons which were entirely within Feller’s actual performance norms in every significant area, so I simply decided to sort out four of them at random.   This is what I got:

 

Year

G

GS

CG

ShO

IP

H

SO

BB

W-L

ERA

1942

44

39

27

6

334.0

253

272

147

26-16

2.80

1943

42

38

30

5

330.1

245

265

145

24-11

2.21

1944

43

37

25

8

298.0

235

246

141

25-10

2.72

1945

45

41

27

5

343.0

276

308

159

26-14

2.86

 

            If you add that in to Feller’s actual career for the other seasons, it gives Feller a career record of 362 wins, 210 losses, 5,061 innings pitched, 3,613 strikeouts, 67 shutouts, and an ERA of 3.11. 

 

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4.  Win Shares—Right Field Defense

 

            I wanted to begin my Win Shares work for the week by explaining that I’ve made some little adjustments to the system to get better defensive rankings for right fielders.   Last week, when we compared Dwight Evans to Dave Parker, we had Defensive Winning Percentages for both players in the .400 range.   This is too low.   Right fielders are in the middle of the defensive spectrum, thus players who should have defensive winning percentages around .500.   Evans, as a Gold Glove right fielder, might be expected to be over .500 (although he isn’t, even after my adjustments.)    But I can defend where he is now; I couldn’t defend where he was before the adjustments.

            Evans from 1973 through 1979 had a defensive winning percentage of .630 (after the adjustments), and for a few years after that he was around .500.   But you have to remember:  Evans had a very long career.   He spent a year as a DH, two half-years as a not-very-good defensive first baseman, and several years in the outfield at the end of his career when he was living on his reputation.  I have him now with a defensive won-lost record of 56-61 (27-16 through 1979, 29-45 from 1980 on.)    I think that’s more reasonable.

            This changes Evans’ career Win Shares/Loss Shares from 310-196 (.610) to 319-188 (.629); in other words, he was above a Hall of Fame standard anyway, and he’s further above it now.   Dave Parker goes from 289-212 (.577) to 296-205 (.592); in other words, he was near a Hall of Fame standard before, and is nearer now.  

            But, of course, the way Win Shares works, when more credit is given to one player, less must be given to someone else.   To improve the defensive evaluations of right fielders, I robbed little bits of credit from catchers, first basemen, shortstops, left fielders and center fielders.  It doesn’t amount to much.   Lou Brock, who had a defensive won-lost record of 56-82 before, would now be at 55-83, and Johnny Damon, who was at 42-39 before, would now be at 41-40.   But it does cause “newer” Win Shares to fail to match with older estimates, so I wanted to explain that, in case you spot discrepancies. 

            In general, what I am trying to do with Win Shares and Loss Shares is introduce them slowly enough that, in concert with the reading public, I can spot some of the flaws and fix them as we go along—rather than simply dumping them on the public, and allowing people to find the flaws and carp about them on their own.  Not that this will eliminate criticism of the system or should, but I am trying to use the public comment in a constructive way to refine the method.

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5.  The 1937 First Basemen

 

            I thought what I would do this week is to pick some years in which the players who played at a position were particularly interesting, and rate the regulars from that season by Win Shares and Loss Shares.   In the late 1930s there were a bunch of outstanding first basemen at the same time, so let’s start with the first basemen of 1937.   This is the way I rate them, based strictly on that season’s performance:

 

YEAR

Team

Player

G

AB

HR

RBI

Avg

SPct

OBA

OPS

WS

LS

Pct

1937

Yankees

Lou Gehrig

157

569

37

159

.351

.643

.473

1.116

29

1

.973

1937

Cardinals

Johnny Mize

145

560

25

113

.364

.595

.427

1.021

26

2

.925

1937

Tigers

Hank Greenberg

154

594

40

183

.337

.668

.436

1.105

26

5

.841

1937

Phillies

Dolph Camilli

131

475

27

80

.339

.587

.446

1.034

22

3

.871

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1937

Red Sox

Jimmie Foxx

150

569

36

127

.285

.538

.392

.929

21

11

.650

1937

Indians

Hal Trosky

153

601

32

128

.298

.547

.367

.915

21

13

.629

1937

White Sox

Zeke Bonura

116

447

19

100

.345

.573

.412

.984

18

6

.753

1937

Pirates

Gus Suhr

151

575

5

97

.278

.402

.369

.771

20

15

.572

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1937

Senators

Joe Kuhel

136

547

6

61

.283

.400

.357

.758

15

15

.504

1937

Braves

Elbie Fletcher

148

539

1

38

.247

.308

.321

.629

15

19

.451

1937

Giants

Johnny McCarthy

114

420

10

65

.279

.410

.322

.732

13

12

.505

1937

Cubs

Ripper Collins

115

456

16

71

.274

.436

.329

.765

13

15

.457

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1937

Dodgers

Buddy Hassett

137

556

1

53

.304

.387

.334

.721

13

19

.401

1937

Browns

Harry Davis

120

450

3

35

.276

.364

.374

.739

9

16

.367

1937

Reds

Les Scarsella

110

329

3

34

.246

.331

.285

.617

6

15

.284

1937

A's

Lou Finney

92

379

1

20

.251

.343

.288

.631

6

17

.255

 

            I’m ranking the players here by how far they are above .300—thus, Hank Greenberg (26-5) ranks ahead of Dolph Camilli (22-3), even though Camilli’s percentage is better. 

            I don’t know if 1937 was exactly the right year to pick.   I picked 1937 because Greenberg missed 1936 with an injury and Gehrig was fading by 1938, but then Foxx didn’t have a good year in 1937; 1937 was the only season between 1932 and 1939 in which The Beast didn’t hit at least .334 with an on base percentage of at least .440 and a slugging percentage of at least .631.  In 1937, as you can see, he missed all of those standards by wide margins (.285, .392, .538).

            Elbie Fletcher was the best defensive first baseman in the majors in 1937, and later on he became a guy who would walk 115 times a year.   It is interesting to note that, even as a rookie in 1937, hitting just .247 with one home run and a strikeout/walk ratio less than even, he still rates as nearly a .500 player.

            The first basemen of 1937 can be divided into eight “Power Hitting first basemen” (1. Gehrig, 2. Mize, 3. Greenberg, 4. Camilli, 5. Trosky, 6. Foxx, 7. Bonura, 8. Ripper Collins) and eight “Glove Men first basemen” (1. Gus Suhr, 2. Joe Kuhel, 3. Fletcher, 4. Johnny McCarthy, 5. Buddy Hassett, 6. Harry (Stinky) Davis, 7. Les Scarsella, 8. Lou Finney. )  Gus Suhr was a really good player, didn’t hit many home runs because he played in Forbes Field, but he played every day, had great strikeout/walk ratios, usually hit around .300 and drove in 100 runs on doubles and triples. 

             I still think Frankie Frisch had to be the dumbest manager in the history of baseball to finish fourth with the 1937 Cardinals. 

 

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6.  The 1962 Right Fielders

 

            In 1961 Right Fielders won the MVP Awards in both leagues, Maris and Frank Robinson.    Here’s how they rank in 1962:

 

Team

Player

G

AB

HR

RBI

Avg

SPct

OBA

OPS

WS

LS

W Pct

Reds

Frank Robinson

162

609

39

136

.342

.624

.421

1.045

30

1

.983

Phillies

Johnny Callison

157

603

23

83

.300

.491

.363

.854

23

9

.725

Yankees

Roger Maris

157

590

33

100

.256

.485

.356

.840

23

10

.695

Giants

Felipe Alou

154

561

25

98

.316

.513

.356

.869

21

9

.711

Cubs

George Altman

147

534

22

74

.318

.511

.393

.904

19

8

.691

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Twins

Bob Allison

149

519

29

102

.266

.511

.370

.881

19

10

.671

Dodgers

Frank Howard

141

493

31

119

.296

.560

.346

.906

19

8

.693

Senators

Chuck Hinton

151

542

17

75

.310

.472

.361

.834

18

11

.614

Pirates

Roberto Clemente

144

538

10

74

.312

.454

.352

.805

18

12

.598

Tigers

Al Kaline

100

398

29

94

.304

.593

.376

.969

15

6

.699

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Red Sox

Lu Clinton

114

398

18

75

.294

.540

.349

.890

13

7

.662

Colts

Roman Mejias

146

566

24

76

.286

.445

.326

.771

16

15

.516

Orioles

Russ Snyder

139

416

9

40

.305

.435

.335

.770

13

9

.598

Mets

Richie Ashburn

135

389

7

28

.306

.393

.424

.817

12

8

.617

Braves

Mack Jones

91

333

10

36

.255

.420

.354

.775

11

9

.557

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A's

Gino Cimoli

152

550

10

71

.275

.420

.323

.743

13

16

.448

White Sox

Mike Hershberger

148

427

4

46

.262

.333

.324

.657

10

15

.400

Cardinals

Charlie James

129

388

8

59

.276

.392

.301

.693

9

13

.412

Indians

Willie Kirkland

137

419

21

72

.200

.377

.272

.649

9

16

.369

Angels

George Thomas

56

181

4

12

.238

.381

.320

.701

5

6

.448

 

            Notes:

            1.  Frank Robinson ranks as both the #1 offensive and the #1 defensive right fielder of 1962.  

            2.  Hank Aaron wasn’t playing right in 1962; he was playing mostly center, while Mack Jones was playing right.  They flipped them in ’63, sent Aaron back to right and put Jones in center.   Aaron had his typical year with the bat, and, were he ranked as a right fielder, would rank second behind Robinson—second offensively, and also second in the field.

            3.  Johnny Callison was a fine defensive right fielder, and from ’62 to ’65 would rank right there with Frank Robinson, Aaron and Clemente as the best in the NL.   For some reason he didn’t stay good a long time like they did.

            4.  George Altman had a better year with the bat than Bob Allison (16-5 vs. 15-7), but Allison was quite a bit better in the field.   Allison, a former college football player with a powerful build, was a center fielder in several seasons, whereas Altman, a college basketball player, was a tall, gangly guy who was really an out-of-position left fielder.  

            5.  A lot of you who remember Frank Howard will remember him as a left fielder; he slowed down, and played left field (badly) for the Senators of the late sixties.   But Howard actually was an All-American basketball player at Ohio State, and as a young player, he had a great arm.   Vic Power managed him one winter, and put him on the mound.   He was very effective, but the Dodgers called and told him to cut it out.  ’62 was Howard’s best year with the bat with the Dodgers; he had a couple of bad years after that, and didn’t re-emerge as a big slugger until several years later.   It looks odd that Allison’s 19-10 ranks ahead of Howard’s 19-8, but Allison’s 19 wins are actually 19.40, and his 10 losses are actually 9.52. 

            6.   Clemente didn’t have much of a year in ’62.   He hit .312, but half of the right fielders in ’62 hit .300, he hit only 10 homers and drew only 35 walks, ranking him in the bottom half of this group in on base percentage.   Look how similar his numbers are in ’62 to Chuck Hinton; that was Hinton’s only really good year.  And yeah, Clemente is still Clemente in the field—he ranks as the second-best defensive right fielder in the majors, behind Frank Robinson—but Hinton is 15-7 at bat, 3-4 in the field, Clemente is 13-9 at bat, 5-3 in the field.

            7.  Kaline was having one of his best seasons, but missed almost two months with an injury.  I think he punched a dugout wall after a strikeout or something.   He’d rank about fourth if he’d stayed in the lineup.

            8.  Lu Clinton, a native Kansan who is buried in Wichita, was a one-year wonder, or actually, a half-season wonder.   He had only 10 hits that year through June 30 (10 for 68, a .147 average), but then hit .375 with 6 homers, 21 RBI in July, .287 with 7 and 23 in August, and .315 with 1 and 15 in September.   For two months there, he was quite a player.

            9.  My actual reason for getting into this is Gino Cimoli.  Cimoli was the Kansas City A’s right fielder in 1962.   Sport Magazine rated the right fielders after the season, and they rated Cimoli the worst right fielder in the American League.    My brother, who wasn’t a big baseball fan and didn’t usually get into this stuff, was very offended by this rating, as Cimoli was one of the A’s best players, and we had been told all season by the KC radio announcers what a great defensive right fielder Cimoli was.  I picked this set of players, in part, because I am still curious about that ranking.

            It is a little hard to figure, in that several American League teams at that time didn’t really have right fielders.   The Orioles were playing a collection of guys in right field; Russ Snyder had a decent year, but he played as much in center and left as he did in right.   The White Sox right fielder, Mike Hershberger, was a rookie who threw very well but never really hit enough, the Angels were just playing whoever showed up that day in right field, and Willie Kirkland had a miserable year for the Indians. 

            But anyway, back to Cimoli.  Cimoli drove in 71 runs in ‘62, which was the most runs driven in by a Kansas City outfielder from 1960 to 1963.  He led the American League in triples, with 15, and he hit a respectable .275.   On the other hand, .275 and 10 homers are not All-Star indicators for a right fielder, and his defensive numbers are appalling.  In 147 games in the outfield he recorded only 231 putouts, one of the lowest range factors in the majors.   The A’s pitchers were low in strikeouts and very high in hits allowed, so you figure there are plays to be made—and there are lots of indications in Cimoli’s record that he must have been faster than most other right fielders.  He led the league in triples, as I mentioned, and actually his 15 triples that year were the most in the majors in five years.   Cimoli had come to the majors mostly as a pinch runner/defensive replacement, and had played primarily as a backup center fielder in the National League in ’60 and ’61.    It’s hard to explain why he wasn’t catching anything in the outfield in ’62, and this suggests that his effort on defense may not have been first-rate, which the local announcers would not have mentioned but the writers for Sport might have been turned off by.  

            10.   You probably mostly remember that in April, 1960, Frank Lane traded the reigning American League home run champion, Rocky Colavito, for the batting champion, Harvey Kuenn.    It’s an infamous trade, because Colavito was the most popular player Cleveland had had since Bob Feller or Lou Boudreau, and it took the Indians about 35 years to get their feet back under them.      

            What many of you probably don’t remember is that, less than eight months later, Lane traded Kuenn to San Francisco for Willie Kirkland.  Kirkland was a power hitter, only not nearly as good a power hitter as Colavito, so it was a lot of fun listening to Frank Lane explain the logic behind that one.   In the early 1950s Frank Lane had made a series of extremely good trades for the Chicago White Sox, which had earned him a reputation as a smart executive.  He spent the rest of his career bouncing from team to team in an effort to destroy the reputation.   A month after the Kirkland/Kuenn trade Frank Lane left the Indians and was hired by Kansas City A’s owner Charley Finley, who fired him a few months later, leading to one of Charley Finley’s many lawsuits.  Ah yes, the KC A’s, those were the days.   Last-place finishes, National League cast-off outfielders, publicity stunts and lawsuits, that’s what we had. 

 

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7.  The 1964 Third Basemen

 

          In 1964 both Most Valuable Players, Ken Boyer and Brooks Robinson, were third basemen.   There were several other top-quality third basemen around at that time—in fact, I have rated Boyer as actually the fourth-best third baseman in the National League in that season—so I thought I would take a look at that group. 

 

YEAR

Team

Player

G

AB

HR

RBI

Avg

SPct

OBA

OPS

WS

LS

W Pct

1964

Phillies

Dick Allen

162

632

29

91

.318

.557

.382

.939

30

3

.913

1964

Cubs

Ron Santo

161

592

30

114

.312

.564

.398

.962

29

4

.890

1964

Orioles

Brooks Robinson

163

612

28

118

.317

.521

.368

.889

27

7

.798

1964

White Sox

Pete Ward

144

539

23

94

.282

.473

.348

.821

24

6

.793

1964

Giants

Jim Ray Hart

153

566

31

81

.286

.498

.342

.840

23

8

.744

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1964

Cardinals

Ken Boyer

162

628

24

119

.295

.489

.365

.854

24

12

.673

1964

Colts

Bob Aspromonte

157

553

12

69

.280

.392

.329

.721

18

14

.557

1964

Braves

Eddie Mathews

141

502

23

74

.233

.412

.344

.756

17

12

.579

1964

Twins

Rich Rollins

148

596

12

68

.270

.406

.334

.740

17

15

.524

1964

Tigers

Don Wert

148

525

9

55

.257

.362

.325

.687

15

14

.523

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1964

Pirates

Bob Bailey

143

530

11

51

.281

.404

.336

.740

16

15

.515

1964

Reds

Steve Boros

117

370

2

31

.257

.322

.342

.664

12

10

.545

1964

Red Sox

Frank Malzone

148

537

13

56

.264

.372

.312

.685

14

15

.479

1964

Indians

Max Alvis

107

381

18

53

.252

.446

.313

.760

11

10

.518

1964

Yankees

Clete Boyer

147

510

8

52

.218

.304

.269

.573

11

18

.385

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1964

Dodgers

Jim Gilliam

116

334

2

27

.228

.287

.318

.605

8

12

.392

1964

A's

Ed Charles

150

557

16

63

.241

.379

.321

.700

11

20

.353

1964

Angels

Felix Torres

100

277

12

28

.231

.397

.266

.663

6

10

.374

1964

Mets

Charley Smith

127

443

20

58

.239

.402

.275

.676

9

17

.335

1964

Senators

John Kennedy

148

482

7

35

.230

.324

.280

.604

9

19

.311

 

Notes:

            1.  Dick Allen was a rookie.   One of the greatest rookie seasons of all time.

            2.  Jim Ray Hart was also a rookie, and would have been Rookie of the Year in most seasons.   The consensus is that Hart was a butcher at third base.   My method here doesn’t really show that, at least for 1964.   He made some errors (28—second in the majors behind Dick Allen, who made 41)—but his range numbers, in the context of the team, are really good, and I credit him with a defensive won-lost record, for the 1964 season, of 6-2.   Ken Boyer was better (7-2), but their hitting numbers are kind of the same, and Busch Stadium was a better place to hit than Candlestick Park, where Hart was playing. 

            3.  Steve Boros of the Reds ranks surprisingly well despite weak hitting numbers in a good hitting park.   Great defense (5-1), and a decent on base percentage.

            4.  OK, I think I finally understand something that I’ve never quite understood before.   Clete Boyer—Ken’s brother—ranks for 1964 as the best defensive third baseman in baseball, even better than Brooks Robinson, but his offensive contribution is scored at 6-17.   It’s really hard to live with that.

            What I think I finally understand is this:  that the collapse of the Yankee dynasty in 1965 is in large measure explained by the fact that Mickey Mantle was SO good, as a hitter, that he was covering up the faults of a lot of other players, which enabled the team to make excuses for them and keep them in the lineup.   Mantle would have a .400 on-base percentage, and .600 slugging.  It creates a lot of runs, and the Yankees had two other legitimately outstanding all-around players in the lineup, Maris and Elston Howard.

            In ’65 all three of those players (Mantle, Maris and Howard) had miserable seasons, and this exposed the flaws of the rest of the lineup.   Clete Boyer was a wonderful third baseman, but his offensive won-lost contribution in 1964 is 6-17.   That’s not good.  I don’t care who you are in the field, you can’t be hitting .218 with a .269 on base percentage—and the Yankees had several other players who weren’t much better.  Bobby Richardson had 728 plate appearances in 1964, and his on-base percentage was .294.  Yeah, his defense was good, but. . .that’s a lot of outs.

            Mickey Mantle was covering for these guys.   The Yankees could get by with talking about what a great defensive player Clete Boyer was and what a great second baseman little Bobby Richardson was because Mickey Mantle was putting SO many runs on the scoreboard that they could pretend that the other guys were pulling their own weight when they weren’t.  If you have a normal human being in center field, you can’t get by with that.

            What has always puzzled me about the collapse of the Yankees is that the outfielders they came up with after Mantle moved to first were really very good.   Setting aside Tom Tresh, who began so brilliantly but faded, and Joe Pepitone, who had the body of a center fielder but spent most of his career at first base, the Yankees in ’66 came up almost simultaneously with Roy White and Bobby Murcer.   Those guys were not bad ballplayers; in fact, they were damned good, in the tradition of guys like Tommy Henrich, Hank Bauer and Charlie Keller. 

            But the weakness of the rest of the lineup, exposed by the collapse of Mantle and Maris, put pressure on White and Murcer not merely to carry their own weight, but to cover for the .280 on base percentages in the infield.   White and Murcer—and later Bill Robinson, who was obtained in a trade for Clete Boyer—struggled in find their place in New York because they were expected not merely to be good players, but to be Mickey Mantle.   I understood that before from a publicity angle, but until now, I don’t think I quite got it from the standpoint of the performance of the team. 

            When Bobby Richardson retired in 1966 he was replaced by another player, Horace Clarke, who had exactly the same skills as Richardson except that he was a switch hitter and could run much better.   But whereas the New York press loved Richardson—because Mickey Mantle was covering up his failings—they hated Horace Clarke, because Clarke didn’t have Mickey Mantle to cover his behind. 

            It is fundamental to my understanding of the world that every strength is also a weakness, that every success is also a failure, that every benefit comes with a cost.   What I never quite saw before was the cost, to the Yankees, of Mickey’s Mantle’s greatness—not the cost as a consequence of Mantle, of course, but the cost as a consequence of not really understanding how good Mickey Mantle was.   Mickey Mantle was so good that he caused Roy White and Bobby Murcer and Horace Clarke to be disrespected.    That was an unfortunate price tag.

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8.  The Win Shares Methodology

Pitcher’s Hitting

 

          In a moment I will give Win Shares and Loss Shares for 1965 National League Pitchers, but before I do that I need to explain how we assign Win Shares for pitchers as hitters.   I explained in an earlier entry how we figured Win Shares for non-pitchers, as hitters, but that pitchers as hitters are carved out of the general run, for two reasons:

            1)  That, since pitchers are very poor hitters, pitchers as hitters would have to be assigned Won-Lost records like 0-3, 1-4, 0-6, etc.    This would move pitchers off-center as overall players, and, to compensate for that, we would have to re-center their pitching Wins and Losses to make them .500 players.   I don’t know how to do that and don’t want to get into it, so we evaluate pitchers, as hitters, by comparing them to other pitchers as hitters.

            2)  Zeroes.   Pitchers as hitters have lots of zeroes, which are a pain in the posterior when you’re multiplying and dividing Win Credits.

            Here’s what we do for pitchers.   First, we take each pitcher’s on base percentage, slugging percentage, and outs made.   These we state as a production ratio by:

 

            Slugging Percentage plus 2 * On Base Percentage

 

            In the National League in 1965 the pitchers as hitters had an on base percentage of .170, slugging percentage of .175, so the norm is .515 (.175 + 2 * .170). 

            Then we do the same for each pitcher.  Hall of Famer Jim Bunning in 1965 had an on base percentage of .221, a slugging percentage of .252, so that’s an individual figure, for him, of .694 (.252 + 2 * .221).  

            This we state as a Winning Percentage (or actually, Claiming Percentage) by the same formula we use for other hitters:  Player Divided by League, minus .20, divided by 1.60.    .694 divided by .515 is 1.348; Bunning was 35% better, as a hitter, than the average NL pitcher.   From this we subtract .20, and divide by 1.60.     1.348 minus .200 is 1.148, divided by 1.600, is .717.   Jim Bunning’s winning percentage as a hitter for 1965 is .717.

            We’re dodging those “zero Runs Created” and “-2 Runs Created” numbers that we would otherwise have to mess with by using an off-brand of OPS.  This gets rid of the zeroes in real cases, in that even the worst-hitting pitchers don’t have .000 on base percentages and slugging percentages for a full season’s work.   It is still possible to have a Winning Percentage, in this way, below zero or above 1.000.  As it happens, in the National League in 1965 there was one pitcher (20 or more starts) who had a Batter’s Winning Percentage below zero, and one who was above 1.000.  Ron Herbel had an on-base percentage of .040, a slugging percentage of .020, which makes a Winning Percentage of -.004.    Don Drysdale, on the other hand, hit .300 with 7 homers and 19 RBI, which gave him a Winning Percentage of 1.295.

            What we do is, we allow Drysdale’s “overage” as a hitter--his over-the-top performance as a hitter—to offset some of his losses as a pitcher.   Drysdale is credited with 7.10 “wins” as a hitter, while he is responsible for only 5.48 “decisions” as a hitter.  His Won-Lost record is 7+2, the plus sign replacing the normal “dash” or minus sign, to signify his over-the-top performance.   Seven wins, negative two losses.  Losses are themselves negative; a negative negative is a plus.     

            Of course, somehow we have to deal with players who are partially pitchers and partially hitters; there’s always somebody.   Brooks Kieschnick, or Hal Jeffcoat, or Willie Smith; there is always somebody around who is neither fish nor foul.   Sometimes outfielders pitch a couple of times, and occasionally you’ll have an outfielder who pitches 4 innings in a season.   We have to decide, then:  to what extent is this player a pitcher, and to what extent is he a regular hitter?

            We have a “position player percentage”, which is figured in this way.  For each three innings that a player pitches, we forgive him for one out as a hitter.   Don Drysdale in 1965 pitched 308 innings.   He thus would have 102.67 “allowed outs” as a hitter.  He actually made 99 outs, as a hitter.   Thus, all of his outs are “forgiven”, and he is 100% a pitcher—even though he pinch hit about 15 times that season.   Ron Herbel, same thing.   He pitched 171 innings, which means that he has 57 outs as a hitter.  He actually made 50 outs, as a hitter, so all of those are forgiven.    Both Drysdale and Herbel are classified as 100% pitchers.

            There is always somebody, however, who is partially a hitter and partially an outfielder.   Matty Alou, an outfielder, pitched two innings for the Giants.  He is thus some percentage pitcher, and some percentage hitter.  

            Pitching 2 innings gives him 2/3 of one out as a hitter.   Alou made 274 outs in 1965.  We thus assume that 273.33 of his outs were made as a hitter, and 0.67 of them were made as a pitcher.

            We could simply divide the 273.33 by 274, but actually that doesn’t work. . .don’t ask why.   It doesn’t.   What we have to do is, for the 2 innings he pitched, we now credit him with 6 outs.  He thus has 6 outs, as a pitcher, and 273.33 outs as a non-pitcher.  He is thus assumed to be 97.9% non-pitcher (273.33 divided by 279.33), and 2.1% pitcher (6 divided by 279.33).   We thus figure his offensive winning percentage as a pitcher, and his offensive winning percentage as a non-pitcher, and combine those two in this ratio.

            Bob Veale, on the other hand, pitched “only” 266 innings in 1965, but made 94 outs as a hitter (which wasn’t easy to do, since he had only 93 at bats.  It was hard work, but he managed it.  Somebody always does.)  Anyway, since he made 94 outs as a hitter and pitched only 266 innings, he had 5.33 more outs than he is allowed.   He thus has 5.33 outs as a non-pitcher—even though he was only a pitcher, he is still treated as some tiny percentage non-pitcher because he has more than used up his budget for outs.

            But he’s 99.3% pitcher, so as a practical matter.. . .he’s a pitcher.   It’s a lot of cells used up in our spreadsheet, and it only really matters when there is a pitcher/position player like Babe Ruth or Clint Hartung or one of the O’Brien twins, but we have to have a method in place to deal with it.   Don Drysdale’s pinch hitting plate appearances are just a bonus to him—which is very reasonable, since having a pitcher who can also be used as a productive pinch hitter is a bonus to his manager. 

            We lose park effects by doing this. ..we have park effects for each hitter when he is hitting as a hitter, but no park effects for a pitcher when he is hitting as a pitcher.  It’s not a meaningful problem, but no doubt somebody will figure out a way to include them, and create a better system.    

 

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9.  The 1965 National League Starting Pitchers

 

          Still looking for seasons where the concentration of talent at one position was unusual, I moved next to the 1965 National League, where the starting pitchers included six Hall of Famers—Koufax, Drysdale, Marichal, Jim Bunning, Bob Gibson and Gaylord Perry.  (Actually, seven, but Warren Spahn was no longer of Hall of Fame quality.)   How do we rank these pitchers?

            Here’s how I have them:

 

YEAR

Team

First

Last

W

L

IP

SO

BB

ERA

WS

LS

WPct

1965

Dodgers

Sandy

Koufax

26

8

336

382

71

2.04

37

9

.800

1965

Giants

Juan

Marichal

22

13

295

240

46

2.14

31

7

.826

1965

Cardinals

Bob

Gibson

20

12

299

270

103

3.07

32

11

.742

1965

Reds

Jim

Maloney

20

9

255

244

110

2.54

28

7

.807

1965

Dodgers

Don

Drysdale

23

12

308

210

66

2.78

28

11

.724

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1965

Phillies

Jim

Bunning

19

9

291

268

62

2.60

28

10

.726

1965

Braves

Tony

Cloninger

24

11

279

211

119

3.29

24

13

.645

1965

Phillies

Chris

Short

18

11

297

237

89

2.82

24

14

.631

1965

Pirates

Vern

Law

17

9

217

101

35

2.16

20

5

.795

1965

Giants

Bob

Shaw

16

9

235

148

53

2.64

20

9

.699

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1965

Pirates

Bob

Veale

17

12

266

276

119

2.84

22

14

.611

1965

Dodgers

Claude

Osteen

15

15

287

162

78

2.79

20

14

.582

1965

Reds

Sammy

Ellis

22

10

264

183

104

3.78

20

16

.561

1965

Pirates

Don

Cardwell

13

10

240

107

59

3.19

17

11

.610

1965

Braves

Wade

Blasingame

16

10

225

117

116

3.76

17

12

.588

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1965

2 Teams

Ken

Johnson

16

10

231

151

48

3.42

16

13

.553

1965

Cardinals

Tracy

Stallard

11

8

194

99

70

3.39

15

11

.567

1965

Cubs

Larry

Jackson

14

21

257

131

57

3.85

16

16

.505

1965

Cubs

Dick

Ellsworth

14

15

222

130

57

3.81

14

14

.508

1965

Phillies

Ray

Culp

14

10

204

134

78

3.22

14

13

.519

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1965

Mets

Jack

Fisher

8

24

254

116

68

3.93

15

16

.477

1965

Cubs

Cal

Koonce

7

9

173

88

52

3.69

11

10

.528

1965

Giants

Gaylord

Perry

8

12

195

170

70

4.19

13

14

.471

1965

Giants

Ron

Herbel

12

9

171

106

47

3.84

11

10

.510

1965

2 Teams

Warren

Spahn

7

16

198

90

56

4.01

12

14

.466

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1965

Pirates

Bob

Friend

8

12

222

74

47

3.24

12

13

.470

1965

Astros

Turk

Farrell

11

11

208

122

35

3.50

12

14

.462

1965

Dodgers

Johnny

Podres

7

6

134

63

39

3.43

8

8

.496

1965

Cubs

Bob

Buhl

13

11

184

92

57

4.40

10

14

.419

1965

Mets

Al

Jackson

8

20

205

120

61

4.35

11

16

.402

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1965

Cardinals

Curt

Simmons

9

15

203

96

54

4.08

10

15

.395

1965

Astros

Bob

Bruce

9

18

230

145

38

3.72

11

18

.377

1965

Reds

Joey

Jay

9

8

156

102

63

4.21

9

13

.397

1965

Braves

Denny

Lemaster

7

13

146

111

58

4.44

7

12

.376

1965

Cardinals

Ray

Sadecki

6

15

173

122

64

5.20

7

17

.303

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1965

Reds

John

Tsitouris

6

9

131

91

65

4.95

5

15

.235

1965

Astros

Don

Nottebart

4

15

158

77

55

4.67

3

17

.127

1965

Reds

Jim

O'Toole

3

10

128

71

47

5.91

1

16

.047

 

            The top six pitchers in the league are five Hall of Famers and Jim Maloney, who was as good as the Hall of Famers, but didn’t last long enough to make the Hall.  

            Most pitchers, as you can see, have about the same Win Shares and Loss Shares as their actual won-lost record.   Tony Cloninger is 24-11 and 24-13, Ken Johnson is 16-10 and 16-13, Don Nottebart is 4-15 and 3-17, Ray Sadecki is 6-15 and 7-17, etc.; in most cases they match.   Why is it, then, that Sandy Koufax has 26 real wins but 37 Win Shares?

            Two reasons.   One is that if a pitcher is exceptional enough, it becomes difficult for the team’s performance to track with the player’s individual contribution.   A .600 pitcher pitching for a .500 team, he’ll get a winning percentage usually somewhere near .600.  An .800 pitcher, the rest of the team will drag him down some because the rest of the team can’ t play .800 ball.     

            The second reason is that we assign responsibility for Win Shares and Loss Shares based in part on the pitcher’s strikeouts, walks, and home runs allowed.   A pitcher who gets very few strikeouts, very few walks and keeps the ball in the park is, in a sense, turning over the outcome of the game to his fielders.   A pitcher like Koufax, who had 382 strikeouts, is taking over the game.   Koufax has much more influence over the outcome of the game, per inning pitched, than almost any other pitcher.   Thus, he is assigned responsibility, in our system, for more decisions.  

            Bob Friend of the Pirates pitched 222 innings in 1965; John Tsitouris of the Reds pitched only 131—yet Tsitouris had more strikeouts (91-74), more walks (65-47) and more home runs allowed (18-17) than did Friend.   It’s very difficult for your fielders to do much to help you if you issue 65 walks and give up 18 homers in 131 innings.   The average pitcher is held responsible for about one decision for every 9 innings pitched, but this figure is one decision for every 7.8 innings for Tsitouris (the highest in the league) and one for every 10.6 innings for Friend (the lowest in the league.   Friend and his longtime teammate Vern Law, both control pitchers at the end of their careers, were the only pitchers under one per ten.)   Tsitouris has a 4-13 record as a pitcher, plus 1-2 as a hitter; Friend is 12-9 as a pitcher, plus 0-4 as a hitter.   

            Koufax is 33-8 as a pitcher, plus 4-2 as a hitter.  Koufax was a famously bad hitter, but he had a decent year in ’65, getting 20 hits and 10 walks for a .242 on base percentage, far better than the pitcher’s norm.  

            We always think we have these things figured out, but then we learn something else and realize that what we thought we knew wasn’t really right.   The one I always think about is Koufax vs. Dick Ellsworth in 1963.   Koufax was the MVP in 1963 (25-5, 1.88 ERA), but Ellsworth was pretty good, too (22-10, 2.11 ERA.)   25-5 is better than 22-10 and 1.88 is better than 2.11, so Koufax’ numbers are better, so Koufax won the MVP and the Cy Young Award, the Cy Young vote being unanimous.

            But wait a minute.  Koufax had a 1.88 ERA pitching in Dodger Stadium, where the Dodgers allowed only 248 runs all year (Park Factor of 0.84), while Ellsworth had a 2.11 ERA pitching in Wrigley Field, Park Factor of 1.09.    Koufax had an ERA of 1.38 at home, but 2.31 on the road, whereas Ellsworth’s ERA was 2.37 at home, 1.77 on the road.   Who was really better?

            And also, Koufax was 25-5, but pitching for a team that was 74-58 with other pitchers.   Ellsworth was 22-10, but pitching for a team that was 60-70 with other pitchers.   Which is really better?   

            There are ways of analyzing the data that would show that Ellsworth was “really” better than Koufax in ’63, and, for a long time, that was what I thought.   I thought I was really smart; see, all those writers, they think Koufax was superman, but I know that the best pitcher in the NL in ’63 was really Dick Ellsworth.

            But then you learn more, and you realize you weren’t so smart after all.   Yes, Ellsworth pitched at a very high level in 1963, but Koufax pitched at a very high level every year.   Koufax record represents his real level of ability—or his real level of ability, helped by his park.   Ellsworth’s record represents a good deal of luck.  He had a lot of balls hit at people that year.   You can’t sustain that; it’s luck.

            Koufax struck out 306, walked only 58, gave up 18 home runs.   Ellsworth struck out 185, walked 75, and gave up only 14 home runs that year—but 34 the next.   So who is really better:  the guy who strikes out 185 and walks 75 and gets lucky, or the guy who strikes out 300 and walks 60 and will do the same thing again next year?

            Koufax vs. Marichal, same thing.  There are people who believe that Marichal was in fact better than Koufax.   Koufax pitched in Dodger Stadium; Marichal pitched in San Francisco, which was tougher for a pitcher.   If you adjust for that, who was really better?

            But Koufax was better.  I have Marichal here with a winning percentage of .826, Koufax with a winning percentage of .800—but Koufax was still better.   Koufax was still better because he was doing more to move his team away from .500 or .400 or .300, whatever margin you want to use.     

            It’s a difficult thing to wrap your mind around, I know, because we’re trained from a young age to think of “pitching innings” as “what the pitcher has done”.   If a pitcher pitches 250 innings with a 2.80 ERA, what’s the difference whether he strikes out 300 or 100?

            But there is a difference.  The pitcher who pitches 250 innings with 100 strikeouts, even if his ERA is the same, has not really DONE the same thing.   He has merely been credited by the statistics with doing the same thing.   His TEAM has gotten people out while he was on the mound.  

            Overstating the difference, Marichal’s team got people out while Marichal was on the mound.   Koufax got people out himself.   It’s not the same thing.   A pitcher like Koufax or Sam McDowell or Bob Veale deserves more blame when his teams fail—and more credit when they succeed.

            Don Drysdale was 21-12 as a pitcher in 1965, but 7+2 as a hitter, making him 28-11 overall.   The best-hitting pitcher in the league, other than Drysdale, was Bob Gibson, who was 27-11 as a pitcher, 5-0 as a hitter, thus 32-11, and the third-best hitter was Jim Maloney, who was 4-0 as a hitter, 28-7 as a package.   In a normal year any of these guys could have been the MVP.   Koufax was clearly the best pitcher, which blocked any other pitcher from serious MVP consideration, and Koufax had won the Award two years earlier, which made some people less inclined to vote for him, so the MVP went to Willie Mays.  He was pretty good, too.   

            The unluckiest pitcher of 1965 was Jack Fisher, who was shackled by the Mets with an 8-24 record although he was, in reality, nearly an average performer (15-16).  

            There were seven twenty-game winners in the league, all of whom had 20 or more Win Shares as well.  

 

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10.  The 1974 First Baseman

 

            I focused on the 1974 first basemen on the belief that they were a kind of counterpoint to the 1937 first basemen, a year when the quality of the first basemen was very poor.     Regular (or actually, most-regular. …meaning that somebody on this team has to be considered the regular first baseman). ..most-regular first basemen from 1974 include Gene Tenace (.211), Craig Kusick (.239 with 8 homers), John Mayberry (.234),  Bob Oliver (.248 with 8 homers), Ed Kirkpatrick (.247 with 6 homers), Dave Kingman (.223), Chris Chambliss (.255 with 6 homers), Mike Hargrove (4 homers), Cecil Cooper (8 homers) and Willie Montanez (7 homers).   Boog Powell was still playing first for Baltimore, but he was fat and fighting injuries, hit .265 with 12 homers.   Davey Johnson played first for Atlanta; he hit .251 with 15 homers.    Lee May for Houston drew 17 walks in 152 games, for a .294 on base percentage.  Willie McCovey played first for San Diego, but he was old and hit .253 with 22 homers, 63 RBI, and he was still one of the best first basemen in the majors.  Only two major league first basemen drove in 100 runs in 1974, and only one hit 30 home runs.  Several teams were actually playing part-time catchers as part-time first basemen.   Joe Torre, another ex-MVP, was still occupying first base for the Cardinals, and Hall of Famer Billy Williams was playing first for the Cubs, but they were nowhere near the players they had been three years earlier.    This is how I rank them:

 

YEAR

Team

Player

G

AB

HR

RBI

AVG

SLG

OBA

OPS

WS

LS

WPct

1974

Dodgers

Steve Garvey

156

642

21

111

.312

.469

.342

.811

25

9

.747

1974

A's

Gene Tenace

158

484

26

73

.211

.411

.367

.778

21

10

.676

1974

White Sox

Dick Allen

128

462

32

88

.301

.563

.375

.938

19

6

.757

1974

Padres

Willie McCovey

128

344

22

63

.253

.506

.416

.922

17

2

.877

1974

Rangers

Mike Hargrove

131

415

4

66

.323

.424

.395

.819

16

5

.758

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1974

Expos

Mike Jorgensen

131

287

11

59

.310

.488

.444

.931

15

2

.901

1974

Reds

Tony Perez

158

596

28

101

.265

.460

.331

.791

20

14

.587

1974

Tigers

Bill Freehan

130

445

18

60

.297

.479

.361

.840

15

8

.647

1974

Brewers

George Scott

158

604

17

82

.281

.432

.345

.777

19

16

.537

1974

Royals

John Mayberry

126

427

22

69

.234

.424

.358

.782

15

10

.602

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1974

Cubs

Billy Williams

117

404

16

68

.280

.453

.382

.835

14

8

.635

1974

Braves

Davey Johnson

136

454

15

62

.251

.390

.358

.748

15

12

.562

1974

Cardinals

Joe Torre

147

529

11

70

.282

.401

.371

.772

16

14

.525

1974

Orioles

Boog Powell

110

344

12

45

.265

.413

.358

.771

13

8

.623

1974

Mets

John Milner

137

507

20

63

.252

.408

.337

.745

15

14

.523

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1974

Phillies

Willie Montanez

143

527

7

79

.304

.410

.343

.753

15

14

.526

1974

Indians

John Ellis

128

477

10

64

.285

.421

.330

.751

14

12

.543

1974

Astros

Lee May

152

556

24

85

.268

.444

.294

.738

16

16

.490

1974

Red Sox

Cecil Cooper

121

414

8

43

.275

.396

.327

.724

11

11

.489

1974

Yankees

Chris Chambliss

127

467

6

50

.255

.349

.296

.645

12

15

.445

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1974

Twins

Craig Kusick

76

201

8

26

.239

.403

.353

.756

7

5

.591

1974

Pirates

Ed Kirkpatrick

116

271

6

38

.247

.347

.367

.714

8

8

.509

1974

Giants

Dave Kingman

121

350

18

55

.223

.440

.302

.742

8

14

.357

1974

Angels

Bob Oliver

110

350

8

55

.248

.345

.277

.622

5

16

.245

 

 

            Obviously this group is far below the first basemen of 1937, and below most of the other groups that we have looked at here.   On the other hand, they’re not as bad as I thought they were when I picked this bunch.   One first baseman, Steve Garvey, was the National League MVP.   Dick Allen was having one of his good years, his last good year, and the part-time catcher, part-time first baseman thing is a two-sided sword.   The part-time catchers (Tenace, Freehan, John Ellis and Ed Kirkpatrick) were contributing more as defensive players than your average bear.   Bill Freehan hit .297 with some power—and he could go behind the mask when you needed him to, two or three games a week.   That’s not a guy you would mind having on your team.  

            Willie McCovey’s numbers were down, yes, but the man hit his 22 homers in just 344 at bats, plus he drew 96 walks, giving him an on-base percentage over .400, a slugging percentage over .500, in a park where runs were scarce.  In context, it’s still an impressive season.   Mike Jorgensen was playing first for the Expos, and “Mike Jorgensen” was not a name to strike fear into the hearts of opponents like “Willie Stargell” or “Eddie Murray”, but he was a defensive standout who had a really nice year with the bat, with a .444 on base percentage and 59 RBI in 287 at bats. 

            You may notice that we have Garvey at 25-9 here, whereas we had him at 26-9 in the same year when we were looking at the Dodger infielders.   This is due to the “Dwight Evans adjustment” I told you about earlier, where I robbed tiny pieces of wins from first basemen, catchers and shortstops to help out right fielders.   Garvey actually lost .07 Win Shares as a fielder in 1974 due to the adjustment, but that was enough to knock him down from 26-9 to 25-9 when we rounded it off.

            But most of these players, somehow, are over .500, and, as a group, they’re 100 Win Shares over .500.   This may indicate that I need to knock down the defensive evaluations of first basemen a little more, but on the other hand, these are the regulars; the regulars at any position in any season are going to tend to be over .500, whereas the bench players are going to be under .500.   This was a year in which there was a lot of playing time given to the bench players.   Only seven major league first basemen had 500 at bats—seven out of 24.  

           

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11.  1977 Third Basemen

 

            In 1964 there were a bunch of third basemen who had outstanding seasons.  In the 1970s there was a period when there were just a bunch of really, really good third basemen.   I chose 1977 to represent that period.    This is the group:

 

YEAR

Team

Player

G

AB

HR

RBI

AVG

SLG

OBA

OPS

WS

LS

WPct

1977

Phillies

Mike Schmidt

154

544

38

101

.274

.574

.393

.967

29

3

.906

1977

Royals

George Brett

139

564

22

88

.312

.532

.373

.905

26

5

.835

1977

Yankees

Graig Nettles

158

589

37

107

.255

.496

.333

.829

23

11

.683

1977

Rangers

Toby Harrah

159

539

27

87

.263

.479

.393

.872

22

9

.713

1977

Reds

Pete Rose

162

655

9

64

.311

.432

.377

.809

23

11

.666

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1977

Dodgers

Ron Cey

153

564

30

110

.241

.450

.347

.797

22

12

.651

1977

White Sox

Eric Soderholm

130

460

25

67

.280

.500

.350

.850

18

8

.682

1977

Orioles

Doug DeCinces

150

522

19

69

.259

.433

.339

.772

19

12

.601

1977

Mets

Lenny Randle

136

513

5

27

.304

.404

.383

.787

18

11

.622

1977

Cubs

Steve Ontiveros

156

546

10

68

.299

.423

.390

.813

17

13

.576

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1977

Indians

Buddy Bell

129

479

11

64

.292

.426

.351

.777

16

10

.608

1977

Pirates

Phil Garner

153

585

17

77

.260

.441

.325

.766

18

15

.548

1977

Astros

Enos Cabell

150

625

16

68

.282

.438

.313

.751

18

17

.525

1977

Brewers

Sal Bando

159

580

17

82

.250

.395

.336

.731

17

15

.529

1977

Angels

Dave Chalk

149

519

3

45

.277

.355

.345

.700

15

15

.497

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1977

Blue Jays

Roy Howell

96

364

10

44

.316

.451

.386

.837

11

8

.594

1977

A's

Wayne Gross

146

485

22

63

.233

.416

.352

.769

14

14

.495

1977

Giants

Bill Madlock

140

533

12

46

.302

.426

.360

.785

14

16

.469

1977

Twins

Mike Cubbage

129

417

9

55

.264

.391

.321

.712

12

12

.509

1977

Red Sox

Butch Hobson

159

593

30

112

.265

.489

.300

.789

16

20

.439

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1977

Cardinals

Ken Reitz

157

587

17

79

.261

.412

.291

.703

15

19

.431

1977

2 Teams

Doug Rader

148

483

18

67

.251

.437

.348

.785

12

14

.460

1977

Expos

Larry Parrish

123

402

11

46

.246

.386

.314

.699

10

13

.418

1977

Mariners

Bill Stein

151

556

13

67

.259

.394

.299

.693

12

19

.374

1977

Tigers

Aurelio Rodriguez

96

306

10

32

.219

.369

.257

.626

7

11

.409

1977

Braves

Jerry Royster

140

445

6

28

.216

.288

.278

.566

4

21

.162

 

            Notes:

            1)  Schmidt and Brett, Schmidt and Brett.   I wonder how many years they were the one and two third basemen in the major leagues?  Several.

            2)  What do we make of the fact that Pete Rose’ winning percentage was the devil’s number?

            3)  Buddy Bell is a player like Dwight Evans that we don’t think of as a Hall of Famer, but who probably meets objective criteria for the Hall of Fame such as 300 career Win Shares and +100 wins over losses.   Those are my criteria, but I’m just saying. . .any objective quality markers for the Hall of Fame, there’s a good chance Buddy Bell is over them.  

            4)  Enos Cabell, never my favorite player, rates pretty well here.   It was his best year.  He had 56 extra base hits (33-7-16) and stole 42 bases, so he was in scoring position under his own power almost 100 times.   His .313 on base percentage still wasn’t great, but the other elements of his game that year were pretty good.

            5)  The Bay Area third basemen in 1977 were Bill Madlock, who won several batting titles but hit only .302 in ’77, and Wayne Gross, whose 1977 numbers were similar to McCovey in ’74—22 homers, 63 RBI, .233 average but a good on-base percentage because he drew 86 walks.  

            Gross hitting .233 was a better player than Madlock hitting .300, but Gross had his issues, too.  We have him as the worst defensive third baseman of 1977, with a defensive won-lost contribution of 1-6.    Gross’ walks would carry his bat, but his defense sunk his career.

            Madlock was never really a great player.  He bounced from team to team, hitting

.300 everywhere and .330 sometimes, but. . .he needed to.  If he’d been a .275 hitter, he wouldn’t have played.

            6)  Butch Hobson’s 43-error season was 1978, not 1977.   In ’77 he was 5-4 as a fielder, but 11-16 as a hitter, despite hitting 30 homers and driving in 112.   His strikeout/walk ratio was six to one.

            7)  Aurelio Rodriguez was the Clete Boyer of 1977—4 and 0 as a fielder, but 3 and 10 as a hitter.

            8)  I always liked Royster, and he had better years, but in ’77 he was horrible at bat and horrible in the field. 

 

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12.  The Shortstops of 1984

 

            I was looking for a year that had really good shortstops, and I hit on 1984 because of Ripken, Trammell, Robin Yount and Ozzie Smith.   These are the 1984 shortstops, as I would now rate them:

 

YEAR

Team

Player

G

AB

HR

RBI

Avg

SPct

OBA

OPS

WS

LS

WPCT

1984

Orioles

Cal Ripken

162

641

27

86

.304

.510

.374

.884

32

3

.917

1984

Tigers

Alan Trammell

139

555

14

69

.314

.468

.382

.851

24

5

.821

1984

Brewers

Robin Yount

160

624

16

80

.298

.441

.362

.803

24

10

.700

1984

Cardinals

Ozzie Smith

124

412

1

44

.257

.337

.347

.684

17

8

.674

1984

Astros

Craig Reynolds

146

527

6

60

.260

.364

.286

.651

17

14

.560

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1984

A's

Tony Phillips

154

451

4

37

.266

.359

.325

.685

14

12

.530

1984

Indians

Julio Franco

160

658

3

79

.286

.348

.331

.679

17

20

.456

1984

Dodgers

Dave Anderson

121

374

3

34

.251

.329

.331

.660

12

10

.546

1984

White Sox

Scott Fletcher

149

456

3

35

.250

.311

.328

.640

14

13

.511

1984

Padres

Garry Templeton

148

493

2

35

.258

.320

.312

.633

13

15

.474

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1984

Mariners

Spike Owen

152

530

3

43

.245

.326

.308

.635

14

16

.460

1984

Royals

Onix Concepcion

90

287

1

23

.282

.338

.319

.657

10

7

.572

1984

Pirates

Dale Berra

136

450

9

52

.222

.318

.273

.591

11

17

.392

1984

Yankees

Bobby Meacham

99

360

2

25

.253

.328

.312

.640

9

13

.408

1984

Phillies

Ivan DeJesus

144

435

0

35

.257

.306

.325

.631

10

16

.371

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1984

Cubs

Larry Bowa

133

391

0

17

.223

.269

.274

.542

9

15

.375

1984

Angels

Dick Schofield

140

400

4

21

.192

.262

.264

.527

9

16

.370

1984

Reds

Dave Concepcion

154

531

4

58

.245

.320

.307

.628

11

20

.355

1984

Braves

Rafael Ramirez

145

591

2

48

.266

.327

.295

.621

11

23

.336

1984

Mets

Jose Oquendo

81

189

0

10

.222

.249

.284

.532

5

7

.403

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1984

Expos

Derrel Thomas

122

272

0

22

.243

.309

.299

.607

6

11

.340

1984

BlueJays

Alfredo Griffin

140

419

4

30

.241

.298

.248

.546

8

18

.301

1984

Giants

Johnnie LeMaster

132

451

4

32

.217

.282

.265

.547

7

20

.262

1984

Twins

Houston Jimenez

108

298

0

19

.201

.245

.238

.483

4

15

.211

1984

Rangers

Curtis Wilkerson

153

484

1

26

.248

.279

.282

.561

7

22

.241

1984

Red Sox

Jackie Gutierrez

151

449

2

29

.263

.316

.284

.600

5

22

.195

 

            I say “as I would rate them now”. . .I am sure I must also have rated them at the time.  But I never look at or think about my old books, so I don’t have any idea how I rated them at the time.

It’s immediately apparent, having done all the work, that I picked a really lousy year to look for shortstops.   Yeah, Ripken, Yount, Trammell and Ozzie were great, but the fifth best shortstop in the majors was. . .Craig Reynolds? 

            It’s not only not a great year for shortstops, it’s a lousy year for shortstops.   Jackie Gutierrez of the Red Sox was one of the worst players ever to play 150 games in a season, with an offensive won-lost contribution of 5-16, and a defensive contribution of 1-6.   Several of the shortstops in the majors were just short-term regulars, failed regulars (Curtis Wilkerson, Houston Jimenez, Bobby Meacham, Onix Concepcion, Dave Anderson, Jose Oquendo.)    Derrel Thomas and Scott Fletcher were utility players playing short.  Concepcion and Bowa had been good but they were old.   Schofield, Spike Owen and Alfredo Griffin didn’t hit, Rafael Ramirez was a errors machine and Johnnie LeMaster didn’t hit and was an errors machine.    Tony Phillips and Julio Franco were wonderful players but neither one of them was a true shortstop.

            It’s hard to hold something like “the overall quality of 26 major league shortstops” in your head, and make a judgment about it.    But I was trying to find a good shortstop group, and this certainly isn’t it.  Ripken, Trammell and Yount had OPS over .800, but nobody else was over .685.   Eight regulars were under .600.

            The best defensive shortstop in the majors, obviously, was Ozzie at 7-0.   The worst was Gutierrez. 

 

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13.  The 1993 Catchers

 

            I was looking for a year with really good catchers, and I chose 1993.  Here’s how I rate them:

 

YEAR

Team

Player

G

AB

HR

RBI

Avg

SPct

OBA

OPS

WS

LS

WPCT

1993

Dodgers

Mike Piazza

149

547

35

112

.318

.561

.370

.932

24

4

.849

1993

Orioles

Chris Hoiles

126

419

29

82

.310

.585

.416

1.001

21

2

.924

1993

Cubs

Rick Wilkins

136

446

30

73

.303

.561

.376

.937

21

3

.892

1993

Phillies

Darren Daulton

147

510

24

105

.257

.482

.392

.875

22

6

.786

1993

Yankees

Mike Stanley

130

423

26

84

.305

.534

.389

.923

18

4

.817

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1993

Royals

Mike Macfarlane

117

388

20

67

.273

.497

.360

.857

15

7

.672

1993

Tigers

Chad Kreuter

119

374

15

51

.286

.484

.371

.855

14

6

.709

1993

Giants

Kirt Manwaring

130

432

5

49

.275

.350

.345

.695

14

10

.594

1993

Mariners

Dave Valle

135

423

13

63

.258

.395

.354

.748

14

11

.563

1993

Twins

Brian Harper

147

530

12

73

.304

.425

.347

.772

14

14

.515

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1993

Rangers

Ivan Rodriguez

137

473

10

66

.273

.412

.315

.727

14

14

.506

1993

White Sox

Ron Karkovice

128

403

20

54

.228

.424

.287

.712

13

12

.514

1993

Pirates

Don Slaught

116

377

10

55

.300

.440

.356

.796

11

10

.538

1993

Braves

Damon Berryhill

115

335

8

43

.245

.382

.291

.673

10

10

.496

1993

A's

Terry Steinbach

104

389

10

43

.285

.416

.333

.749

10

11

.484

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1993

Expos

Darrin Fletcher

133

396

9

60

.255

.379

.320

.699

10

12

.450

1993

Cardinals

Tom Pagnozzi

92

330

7

41

.258

.373

.296

.669

9

11

.447

1993

Astros

Eddie Taubensee

94

288

9

42

.250

.389

.299

.688

8

9

.465

1993

Rockies

Joe Girardi

86

310

3

31

.290

.397

.346

.743

7

10

.427

1993

Marlins

Benito Santiago

139

469

13

50

.230

.380

.291

.671

10

17

.377

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1993

Brewers

Dave Nilsson

100

296

7

40

.257

.375

.336

.711

7

11

.398

1993

BlueJays

Pat Borders

138

488

9

55

.254

.371

.285

.656

10

18

.354

1993

Reds

Joe Oliver

139

482

14

75

.239

.384

.276

.659

9

18

.339

1993

Angels

Greg Myers

108

290

7

40

.255

.362

.298

.660

6

11

.357

1993

Mets

Todd Hundley

130

417

11

53

.228

.357

.269

.626

7

17

.293

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1993

Indians

Junior Ortiz

95

249

0

20

.221

.273

.267

.540

4

11

.270

1993

Padres

Kevin Higgins

71

181

0

13

.221

.294

.254

.548

3

8

.247

1993

Red Sox

Tony Pena

126

304

4

19

.181

.257

.246

.502

5

15

.247

 

            Notes:

            1)  Piazza’s defense in 1993 looks decent to me.   Piazza’s defense will always be controversial in our community.  His stolen base data was never great, but he threw out 59 base burglars that year (108 stolen bases allowed), so that wasn’t really hurting the team.   The Dodger pitchers were way over the league in strikeouts, and their ERA was good.    You have to consider those things when you evaluate a catcher. 

            2)  Chris Hoiles and Rick Wilkins were up and down guys who didn’t get a lot of love from the media, but they both had good years, and they had good years in 1993 all around.   Hoiles threw out 46 of 113 base stealers, which is quite good, had a good fielding percentage and was charged with only two passed balls.   Wilkins threw out 56 of 122 base stealers, which is outstanding, and fielded .996.  They both worked for teams that had decent years, and decent years from their pitching staffs.  They’re not just being rated high because they hit well; they played well. 

            3)  In the MVP voting the top catchers were Darren Daulton, 7th in the NL voting (Piazza was 9th), and Mike Stanley, 14th in the American League voting.  Daulton was a fine player and Mike Stanley was a good hitter, but Hoiles and Piazza had better all-around seasons.

            4)  Pudge was 5-1 as a fielder but 9-12 as a hitter.   Ron Karkovice was 6-0 as a fielder but 7-12 at bat.  Tony Pena was 4-0 as a fielder, but 1-15 as a hitter.  

            5)  The Gold Gloves in ’93 went to Rodriguez and Manwaring.  We have Manwaring at 9-10 as a hitter, 6-0 as a fielder.   A good player.

 

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14.  The 1998 Closers

 

          And finally, the relief aces.   I chose 1998 as a year that looked like it had a lot of closers having good years.  

            I believe I mentioned here that I had changed the “leverage index” that assigns extra weight to relief aces based on their Save totals.   When I published year-by-year Win Shares and Loss Shares for Mariano Rivera about a year ago, some people felt that the credit he was being given for runs saved was too low, not only for a pitcher pitching leveraged innings but even for a pitcher pitching un-leveraged innings.

            That’s not quite right; the credit being given to Rivera for runs saved was actually higher than for any other Yankee pitcher.   The misunderstanding comes about in this way:  that the Win Shares system divides credit for defensive performance between pitchers and fielders.    Let’s assume that the league ERA is 4.50 and that a pitcher pitches 180 innings with a 3.00 ERA.   It appears that the pitcher has saved his team about 30 runs—1.50 times 20—but actually this is not true.    The pitcher and his defense have saved the team about 30 runs.    Some of the credit has to go to the fielders.  The people who thought that Rivera’s wins-to-runs-saved ratio was too low even for un-leveraged innings were assuming that all runs saved should be credited to the pitcher.  I don’t believe this is true.

            However, due to technical issues involving the interaction of numerous formulas, the “extra benefit” that I was giving Rivera for pitching in Save situations was lower than I had intended, and I did make two changes to the system to correct this.   Since I have not yet explained the pitching system itself, it is not appropriate here to explain the changes; I’ll just explain them as a part of the system.  

            These are the closers of 1998, as I see them:

 

YEAR

Team

First

Last

W

L

SAVES

G

IP

SO

BB

ERA

WS

LS

W Pct

1998

Padres

Trevor

Hoffman

4

2

53

66

73

86

21

1.48

20

1

.961

1998

Expos

Ugueth

Urbina

6

3

34

64

69

94

33

1.30

18

0

.989

1998

Rangers

John

Wetteland

3

1

42

63

62

72

14

2.03

18

1

.958

1998

Giants

Robb

Nen

7

7

40

78

89

110

25

1.52

18

3

.877

1998

Indians

Michael

Jackson

1

1

40

69

64

55

13

1.55

17

+1

1.038

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1998

Red Sox

Tom

Gordon

7

4

46

73

79

78

25

2.72

16

3

.851

1998

2 Teams

Jeff

Shaw

3

8

48

73

85

55

19

2.12

16

4

.792

1998

Yankees

Mariano

Rivera

3

0

36

54

61

36

17

1.91

13

0

.991

1998

Cubs

Rod

Beck

3

4

51

81

80

81

20

3.02

16

7

.693

1998

Astros

Billy

Wagner

4

3

30

58

60

97

25

2.70

13

4

.775

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1998

Braves

Kerry

Ligtenberg

3

2

30

75

73

79

24

2.71

13

3

.792

1998

Cardinals

Juan

Acevedo

8

3

15

50

98

56

29

2.56

12

2

.825

1998

Phillies

Mark

Leiter

7

5

23

69

89

84

47

3.55

13

5

.719

1998

Diamondbacks

Gregg

Olson

3

4

30

64

69

55

25

3.01

12

4

.759

1998

Mariners

Mike

Timlin

3

3

19

70

79

60

16

2.95

10

3

.785

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1998

Rockies

Jerry

Dipoto

3

4

19

68

71

49

25

3.53

10

3

.777

1998

Angels

Troy

Percival

2

7

42

67

67

87

37

3.65

12

8

.596

1998

Devil Rays

Roberto

Hernandez

2

6

26

67

71

55

41

4.04

10

5

.663

1998

Whitesox

Bill

Simas

4

3

18

60

71

56

22

3.57

10

4

.711

1998

Orioles

Armando

Benitez

5

6

22

71

68

87

39

3.82

11

6

.625

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1998

Twins

Rick

Aguilera

4

9

38

68

74

57

15

4.24

10

7

.595

1998

Brewers

Bob

Wickman

6

9

25

72

82

71

39

3.72

10

6

.601

1998

Dodgers

Scott

Radinsky

6

6

13

62

62

45

20

2.63

7

3

.724

1998

A's

Billy

Taylor

4

9

33

70

73

58

22

3.58

9

8

.539

1998

Marlins

Matt

Mantei

3

4

9

42

55

63

23

2.96

7

3

.711

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1998

Royals

Jeff

Montgomery

2

5

36

56

56

54

22

4.98

9

8

.519

1998

Mets

John

Franco

0

8

38

61

65

59

29

3.62

9

8

.507

1998

Pirates

Rich

Loiselle

2

7

19

54

55

48

36

3.44

7

5

.592

1998

Tigers

Todd

Jones

1

4

28

65

63

57

36

4.97

8

8

.488

1998

2 Teams

Randy

Myers

4

7

21

62

57

41

26

4.92

7

6

.518

 

            1)  These rankings include credit for the player’s performance as hitters, although those credits in all cases are very small.  

            2)  Closers challenge our assumption that the players at every position must be .500 players.  Obviously the typical closer is not a .500 pitcher.   Teams shift pitchers around, on their pitching staff, to get one of their most effective pitchers deployed in this crucial role.  

            But wait a minute.  Do not teams shift players around at fielding positions, to get the best talent deployed most effectively?  How do we really know that, at the end of that process, the players deployed at first base are no better than the players deployed at shortstop or second base?  

            I think we really don’t know.   It’s an assumption.   There should be some way to study it by modeling the options. 

            3)  This is a good group.  The major league ERA in 1998 was 4.43.   Seven of these pitchers had ERAs less than half of that, five of those with ERAs under 2.00. 

            4)  Who exactly was Bill Simas?

 
 

COMMENTS (24 Comments, most recent shown first)

ventboys
I watch a lot of NCAA basketball, as a Zags fan, and I watch it on ESPN when I am at work. It's more intense than the NBA regular season, for the most part, so that might be why so many people prefer it, but the talent level is a LOT lower than it is in the NBA. Watch a game, and count the number of jump shots that are not 3 pointers. For one thing there aren't that many, and the shooting percentage is low. In the NBA the jump shot is a weapon, one that guys like Kobe and Jordan made their reputations on. The term "go to guy" in the NBA can almost be changed to "he can make a frigging jump shot with a hand in his face". In the NCAA, a guy takes a couple of mid range jumpers and Bobby Knight throws a chair at him.

I prefer college to pros when it's a rivalry, or the game means something in the national race, but my favorite basketball to watch is NBA playoff basketball. It's an amazing game. You don't have to catch it at the beginning, or see it all the way to the end. Just a few minutes of seeing these amazing athletes make plays can be enough for me.

2 years ago I wouldn't have said this. I was completely done with the NBA. They made some rule changes, and let the players play again. It's just not the same game now.
2:37 AM Jun 7th
 
tbell
Thanks, alljoeteam.
1:10 AM Jun 4th
 
tbell
Bill Simas - part of the hangover White Sox of the late ’90s - the Thomas-Ventura-McDowell team frustrated by the strike, which subtracted from its chances to win the World Series before the Cleveland juggernaut of Lofton-Belle-Ramirez-Thome-etc. got traction.

He worked hard to throw 90, put everything he had into his fastball, really bending forward into his low-three-quarters delivery. Probably why his arm gave out before he was 30. The classy White Sox kept him on the roster for the improbable 2000 division championship, though he had nothing left by then.

He threw 2-3 mph harder than Keith Foulke, so Jerry Manual had a hard time seeing Foulke as the better pitcher, which gave Simas a smattering of save opportunities. (Matt Karchner, too. Manuel eventually saw the light, of course.) Bobby Howry was a better reliever back then, as well.

Simas had short dark hair with ’stache and goatee, trying to convince batters he was a mean hombre, not the laid-back California dude he really was.
1:06 AM Jun 4th
 
monahan
As far as the Win% for DH's & PH's, I would think that the lessened contributions would be more evident in the total WS & LS numbers, as the % would still be the same.

As far as Mike Jackson having a Win% over 1.000, let's keep in mind the context. We're talking about shares of team wins & losses, right? So we don't have to keep to that 1.000 limit on an individual level, as those overages are covered by underages for other players.
8:19 PM Jun 3rd
 
Trailbzr
So Bill "focused on the 1974 first basemen on the belief that ... the quality of the first basemen was very poor." And Teams on Paper makes it one of the three best years for first basemen since WWII.

I think this is a weakness of Teams on Paper. Dick Allen, Gene Tenace, Joe Torre, Dave Johnson and Bill Freehan were once outstanding players at key defensive positions. That doesn't make them great on paper playing first base in 1974.

6:05 PM Jun 3rd
 
jrickert
It might be difficult to fins a good shortstop group.
To look for concentrations of talent, I turned the Teams on Paper table on it's side and found average values for each position.
The oddest thing that I've noticed so far is that the SS average barely moved from the mid 50s. For the period 1954-1989 (the last year looked at) the SS average was always between 13.5 and 16.5. The other positions were more volatile.
For the 30 seasons 1960-1989,
SS 13.5-16.5 (3.0)
2B 12.0-15.6 (3.6)
3B 14.2-18.4 (4.2)
CF 13.7-18.7 (5.0)
LF 13.8-19.2 (5.4)
RF 14.1-19.5 (5.4)
1B 13.3-19.7 (6.4)
C 12.3-19.5 (7.2)

DH 9.6-17.4 (for the 17 seasons 1973-1989)
P 12.0-15.6 (averaging 4 spots per year makes for half the expected range)
RA 13.2-20.2

Except for pitchers and catchers the sizes of the ranges tracks the defensive spectrum fairly well.

Seasons since WW II that were within 1.0 of the peak value at each position (0.5 for pitching)
DH: 1977
P: 1968, 1973
C: 1975-1982 (also a large peak in the 30s)
1B: 1967, 1974, 1975
2B: 1956, 1957, 1964, 1973, 1975, 1985, 1986 (also the mid 20s)
3B: 1975, 1976, 1982, 1983
SS: 1956, 1957, 1966, 1967, 1976, 1978, 1981-1984, 1986, 1989 (30s-WWII)
LF: 1963, 1967, 1968, 1973, 1974
CF: 1954-1957, 1959, 1960 (also late teens, early 20s)
RF: 1965, 1966, 1976
RA: 1988, 1989


2:04 PM Jun 3rd
 
alljoeteam
Another way is W-0.300*(W+L).

Same thing.
1:36 PM Jun 3rd
 
alljoeteam
It games above .300, so Greenberg does come out on top. Do this: (W+L)*(W%-0.300)

Greenberg

(26+5)*(0.83871-0.300)=16.7

Camilli

(22+3)*(0.88000-0.300)=14.5

1:35 PM Jun 3rd
 
tbell
Bill Simas - part of the hangover White Sox of the late ’90s - the Thomas-Ventura-McDowell team frustrated by the strike, which subtracted from its chances to win the World Series before the Cleveland juggernaut of Lofton-Belle-Ramirez-Thome-etc. got traction.

He worked hard to throw 90, put everything he had into his fastball, really bending forward into his low-three-quarters delivery. Probably why his arm gave out before he was 30. The classy White Sox kept him on the roster for the improbable 2000 division championship, though he had nothing left by then.

He threw 2-3 mph harder than Keith Foulke, so Jerry Manual had a hard time seeing Foulke as the better pitcher, which gave Simas a smattering of save opportunities. (Matt Karchner, too. Manuel eventually saw the light, of course.) Bobby Howry was a better reliever back then, as well.

Simas had short dark hair with ’stache and goatee, trying to convince batters he was a mean hombre, not the laid-back California dude he really was.
10:43 AM Jun 3rd
 
tbell
"I’m ranking the players here by how far they are above .300 — thus, Hank Greenberg (26-5) ranks ahead of Dolph Camilli (22-3), even though Camilli’s percentage is better."

Forgive me, I'm slow. But Camilli's percentage (.871) is still higher than Greenberg's (.841) even when you subtract .300 from each figure (.871 - .300 = .571) > (.841 - .300 = .541).

I'm missing something. What?
10:31 AM Jun 3rd
 
jrickert
It might be difficult to fins a good shortstop group.
To look for concentrations of talent, I turned the Teams on Paper table on it's side and found average values for each position.
The oddest thing that I've noticed so far is that the SS average barely moved from the mid 50s. For the period 1954-1989 (the last year looked at) the SS average was always between 13.5 and 16.5. The other positions were more volatile.
For the 30 seasons 1960-1989,
SS 13.5-16.5 (3.0)
2B 12.0-15.6 (3.6)
3B 14.2-18.4 (4.2)
CF 13.7-18.7 (5.0)
LF 13.8-19.2 (5.4)
RF 14.1-19.5 (5.4)
1B 13.3-19.7 (6.4)
C 12.3-19.5 (7.2)

DH 9.6-17.4 (for the 17 seasons 1973-1989)
P 12.0-15.6 (averaging 4 spots per year makes for half the expected range)
RA 13.2-20.2

Except for pitchers and catchers the sizes of the ranges tracks the defensive spectrum fairly well.

Seasons since WW II that were within 1.0 of the peak value at each position (0.5 for pitching)
DH: 1977
P: 1968, 1973
C: 1975-1982 (also a large peak in the 30s)
1B: 1967, 1974, 1975
2B: 1956, 1957, 1964, 1973, 1975, 1985, 1986 (also the mid 20s)
3B: 1975, 1976, 1982, 1983
SS: 1956, 1957, 1966, 1967, 1976, 1978, 1981-1984, 1986, 1989 (30s-WWII)
LF: 1963, 1967, 1968, 1973, 1974
CF: 1954-1957, 1959, 1960 (also late teens, early 20s)
RF: 1965, 1966, 1976
RA: 1988, 1989


9:56 AM Jun 3rd
 
CharlesSaeger
Mac -- yeah, well, Bill lets it happen, now that there's Loss Shares. There are ways around it, but he's alright with it, and it's his system.
8:05 PM Jun 2nd
 
macthomason
I'm just saying that it's literally impossible to win more than 100 percent of the time.
6:18 PM Jun 2nd
 
CharlesSaeger
Mac: Well, Jackson has not only that obscene ERA, but also an ERC of 1.78 (Hoffman is at 1.59, Urbina 1.59, Wetteland 1.99, Rivera 2.08), a one-year park factor of 107 (Hoffman 88, Urbina 90, Wetteland 106, Rivera 97), and a team DER of .682 (Hoffman .691, Urbina .687, Wetteland .668, Rivera .708). All of that would add up.
11:44 PM Jun 1st
 
macthomason
How does Mike Jackson have a winning percentage above 1.000?
2:45 PM Jun 1st
 
macthomason
I'm shocked that Damon Berryhill ranks so high in 1993. My memory of him that year largely is of waiting for Javy Lopez to arrive, and I certainly would have traded him for Steinbach. I assume Berryhill looks really good on defense.
2:42 PM Jun 1st
 
alljoeteam
The level of talent in the NBA is clearly greater than the level of talent in the NCAA. However, the game is not the same. They play a different game. Quarters vs. Halves. 48 minutes vs. 40 minutes. 24 seconds vs. 35 seconds. Whole buckets of fouling rules are different. Different styles of play. Need I go on?

I would think that it should be pretty easy to put park effects back into hitting for pitchers. B-R has park adjusted OBP and SLG for every player, for every park, for every year. How's it done over there? It's not really a big deal anyway. It's next to nothing in 97% of cases, but should be fairly easy to do.

I went ahead and did it for Drysdale in 1965. You used the league values of .170 OBP and .176 SLG. I found the one year park adjustments to be .97741 for OBP and .92263 for SLG. This creates new bases of .166 for OBP and .162 for SLG. The 2*OBP+SLG base should then be .495 instead of .516 (I'm carrying more decimals than I'm showing). This means Drysdale's Productivity Ratio should be 2.37 for a W% of 1.353, which is 0.058 higher than where he is now. That gives him another .32 WS and .32 fewer LS. This should only add eight cells to your spread sheet.
1:32 PM Jun 1st
 
CharlesSaeger
BTW, Bill: That IS how you rated the shortstops at the time, at least the top guys. Either your Astros or Craig Reynolds comments that year contained quite a bit about how well Reynolds played in place of the injured Dickie Thon.
1:04 PM Jun 1st
 
Trailbzr
Charles, it might not be a big deal, but it's part of the over-arching philosophy of Win Shares to do what it can about the small deals, too.

If your average DH is on your idealized average team, some group of average players is being attributed three games below .500 they don't deserve. (It's possibly 12 guys losing a quarter of a win apiece, but still.)

It may not be a big deal for one season, but when we were debating Hall of Fame candidates, the subject came up about whether the system was fair to players at all positions. When multiplied by a 15-20 year career, these difference can stick out.
1:02 PM Jun 1st
 
shaneyfelt
Well done on the second try, by the way! (Roids)

On NBA vs NCAA, for me it is simple, the "game" that is being played at the NBA level, I no longer reconize, don't understand and it has passed me by and that is ok because NCAA has not and so my season needs when the NCAA season ends.

In my opinion, the "game" is more important to me than the sport. For example, it is not that I do not like Soccer, I just don't like the "game" - any game that has playoffs and because the game has certain rules that allow for championship level games to end in a 0-0 ties forcing kick offs to see who wins a championship will not have me as an interested fan. [make 'em play till the score or change the rules - the game would be better for it]

The question is why? Because we have three excellent games in the US - Football, both NFL and NCAA, Baseball - MLB and NCAA, and Basketall - NCAA.

It does appear that NBA does fine without me.
11:48 AM Jun 1st
 
CharlesSaeger
Trailbzr: Theoretically, Bill's hypothesis is perfectly rational. He didn't contribute anything on the field side of the ledger. The issue now becomes how to put the totals back into a single number. Let's work through this a bit. Player A is a third baseman, Player B is a pure DH; both have average WS-LS records. Player A would have a record of 18-18 for the whole year, Player B 15-12, since an average DH hits better than an average at pretty much any other position aside from first base or maybe left field. If I do the Fibonacci number, I get Player A at 9 FWS, Player B at 9.6 FWS, pretty close. If I set it to WS above a .300 player, I get Player A at 7.2 WS, Player B 6.9 WS. If I do .250 as the threshold, Player A is at 9 WS, Player B is at 8.25. You might have a point, but I'm not sure it's really a big deal.
10:14 AM Jun 1st
 
evanecurb
Bill:
Your system has Enos Cabell over .500 in 1977. There was a time when that fact alone would have caused you to go back to the drawing board.
8:53 AM Jun 1st
 
Trailbzr
Bill, if someone plays only DH and/or PH all season and hits .500, does WinShares/LossShares see him as an average complete player by adding his .500 batting record to zero defensive responsibility? If so, that doesn't seem right because such a player can't be considered average.
I know you don't want to create different hitting norms at different positions, because "everyone hits as a hitter." While this is true, and a perfectly acceptable way to model the issue, it might be more realistic to normalize all hitters to .450 and then make fielding sum to more than .500 to make up for it (not for every position, but cumulatively over all positions).
7:28 AM Jun 1st
 
mikeclaw
Ahem.

Jackie Gutierrez's middle name should always be used on first reference.

Jackie Goddamn Gutierrez.

6:44 AM Jun 1st
 
 
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