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The 2011 Hall of Fame Ballot (Part I)

January 17, 2011

Candidate: 

Lenny Harris

Rank:

36th

Nickname if he had grown up in a Mob Family:

Chunk

2011 Hall of Fame Votes: 

Zero, Zero %

Career Win Shares and Loss Shares:

87-129, .402

Best Season:

1990, 13-10 (Dodgers)

 

            First understand, I like Lenny Harris; I always did.   He was kind of a poor man’s version of one of my all-time favorite players, Tony Phillips.   You could put Tony Phillips at any of seven positions, and he’d be the best defensive player on the field at six of them.

            Lenny Harris, not so much; you could put him anywhere and he was OK.   He was a really interesting player, in that he had an 18-year career in which he was never a regular.   He had 400 at bats only twice in his career, with a high of 431.   Ordinarily, a player who is good enough to last for 18 years has to be either a catcher or good enough to play regularly at least five of them, but Harris—and a few other guys—have been exceptions to the rule.   I’m not knocking on Lenny Harris, but somebody has to finish last in our competition, and. ..obviously Lenny Harris was not a Hall of Fame player.

 

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Performance at Age 19

 

            Of the 36 players in our study, four reached the majors at the age of 19—Bert Blyleven, Tim Raines, Alan Trammell and Juan Gonzalez.  Their aggregate Win Shares and Loss Shares at age 19 are 13 wins, 16 losses, of which 12 wins and 10 losses are accounted for by Blyleven; the other three guys were just getting their feet wet, and went 17-for-103 as hitters.   Blyleven was a complete major league pitcher at age 19.

 

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Candidate: 

Kirk Rueter

Rank:

35th

Nickname if he had grown up in a Mob Family:

Slop

2011 Hall of Fame Votes: 

Zero, Zero %

Career Win Shares and Loss Shares:

114-122, .484

Best Season:

1997, 15-9 (Giants)

 

            Rueter (pronounced Reeder) was a soft-tossing lefty who managed to go 130-92 (credited wins and losses) in a thirteen-year career although he recorded strikeouts about as often as Washington records a balanced budget.   Here is something that turned up in my research that I absolutely did not expect.   I figured the "Team Success Percentage" for each player in this study, and. . .guess who came in first?   Rueter.   You’d never think it, would you?   He played for Montreal (1993-1997) and San Francisco (1997-2005), a total of 14 teams, and made only 30 starts in his career for teams that had losing records—9 in 1995 (Montreal), 3 in 1997 (Montreal) and 18 in 2005 (San Francisco).   Otherwise (306 starts being included in the "otherwise"), he pitched exclusively for teams with winning records—which helps explain how he was able to stay in the league all those years.   These are the highest Team Success Percentages for players in this group:

 

Player

Team Success Percentage

Kirk Rueter

.697

Tino Martinez

.695

Jack Morris

.681

John Olerud

.681

Marquis Grissom

.634

Carlos Baerga

.630

Roberto Alomar

.617

Dave Parker

.615

Jeff Bagwell

.606

Tim Raines

.605

 

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Performance at Age 20

 

            Eight of the 36 players in our study were in the major leagues at the age of 20.   Three of them were regulars and very productive players—Bert Blyleven (23-14 Win Shares and Loss Shares), Roberto Alomar (20-12) and Alan Trammell (15-11).   After that it drops down to Juan Gonzalez (3-2), Dale Murphy (2-2), John Olerud (0-0), Lou Whitaker (0-2), and Tim Raines (0-1).

            Blyleven was 23-14, which we can represent as a "Win Share Value" of 28—23, plus (23-14)/2.   If you save the decimals for Blyleven it works out to 27.66.   This is what we call a "High Quality Regular/Near All Star" level of play.   Blyleven was 16-15 with a 2.81 ERA in 278 innings.   We can use the following chart to describe Win Share Values:

 

 

40 or more

MVP Level Performance

35-39

All Star/Near MVP Level

30-34

All Star Performance

25-29

High Qualify Regular/Near All Star

20-24

High Quality Regular

 

            I will also sometimes refer to players with Win Shares Value of 28 or 29 as playing at an All-Star level, because sometimes it seems foolish to deny them that status.

            Win Share Value measures a player by how far he is above a .250 replacement level—thus, 16-16 is the same as 15-13 or 14-10; they’re all eight games over .250.  It is useful to have those descriptions, but we have to be careful of them, as they can be misleading in the middle of the chart.   A "Win Shares Value" of 10 can be a player who plays only a month and goes 7-1, or it can be a player who is in the lineup all year but contributes more losses than wins (14-22, or 13-19, or 12-16).   Win Share Value is not always a perfect indicator of how much you would like to have the player on your APBA team.

 

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Candidate:

Charles Johnson

Rank:

34th

Nickname if he had grown up in a Mob Family:

Charley Rockets

Votes: 

Zero, Zero %

Career Win Shares and Loss Shares:

112-104, .518

Best Season:

2000, 16-6 (Baltimore and the White Sox)

 

            Charles Johnson was a muscular catcher with a tremendous throwing arm.   He won the NL Gold Glove at catcher his first season as a regular (1995) and for three years after that, and emerged as a star in 1997, when he threw out 56 of 118 would-be base stealers, hit 19 homers and helped the Marlins win the World Championship.    After that he played well intermittently, and got the reputation, fairly or unfairly, as a guy who only played well when his contract was on the line.   He hit .304 with 31 homers in 2000.

            Johnson was a good player, a decent hitter and an outstanding defensive player; our system evaluates him as the second-best defensive player in this group of 36 players.    Still, his career was too short to be taken seriously as a Hall of Famer, as was recognized by all of the Hall of Fame voters.

 

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Performance at Age 21

 

            At the age of 21, 16 of the 36 Hall of Fame candidates in our study were in the majors.   There is a regularity about this—4 at age 19, 8 at age 20, 16 at age 21.   Of the 16 players who were in the majors at age 21, 9 were regulars or near-regulars; the other 7 just played a few games.  

            Bert Blyleven in 1972, again posting a 23-14 won-lost contribution, the same as the previous year, again was the best player in the group at age 21.   He was followed by Lou Whitaker (19-9), Roberto Alomar (20-16), Tim Raines (15-3), Juan Gonzalez (15-14), John Olerud (11-7), Alan Trammell (13-14), Harold Baines (12-17) and Carlos Baerga (7-10); those were the 9 regulars and near-regulars.   In tenth place was Cecil Cooper, who hit .310 in 14 games (the season scored at 2-1.)  

            The value of the 36 players in this group at age 21 was 19% of their mature value.    We credit them at age 21 with an aggregate won-lost record of 154-116.

 

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Candidate: 

Bobby Higginson

Rank:

33rd

Nickname if he had grown up in a Mob Family:

Little Triggers

Votes: 

Zero, Zero %

Career Win Shares and Loss Shares:

142-121, .540

Best Season:

1997, 20-8 (Detroit)

 

            Higginson in 1997 hit .299 with 27 homers, 101 RBI.   His triple crown numbers were slightly better in 2000, but his actual value was very slightly less. He was named "Tiger of the Year" by the Detroit media in both of those seasons.

            Higginson played for Temple University and did not reach the majors until he was 24 years old, which made him the oldest player in this group at the time he reached the majors.   Higginson played very well his first few years, but injured his elbow after signing a multi-year contract, and his contract became an albatross to the Tigers. 

            Like Whitaker and Trammell, Higginson played all of his career with the Tigers, which at his time was not a great thing.   The Tigers had a losing record every year that Higginson was with them, losing 109 games in 1996, 106 games in 2002, and 119 in 2003.   Higginson’s team success percentage was by far the worst of any player in this group:

 

 

Player

TS%

Bobby Higginson

.343

Dale Murphy

.412

Harold Baines

.472

Bret Boone

.488

Charles Johnson

.489

Rafael Palmeiro

.494

 

 

             Those are the only players in this study with Team Success Percentages less than .500.   Higginson, because he played for such horrible teams and was the highest-paid player on that team the second half of his career, inevitably came to symbolize the frustrations of the organization in that era, but this is unfair; he was an above-average player on balance.   He wasn’t a Hall of Famer, but he was a left-handed power-hitting outfielder who had some good years and had a good arm.

 

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Performance at age 22

 

             At the age of 22 thirty of the thirty-six players were in the major leagues, with 13 of those 30 being regulars or near-regulars.    Bert Blyleven, pitching 325 innings with a 2.52 ERA, continued to reign as the best player in the group, posting an individual won-lost contribution of 26-9, the best of his career.   This is an All Star level/Near MVP performance, and, in fact, this ranks as the best season by any pitcher in this group at any age.   No pitcher on this year’s Hall of Fame ballot ever won an MVP Award or a Cy Young Award.

             These are the top players in the group at age 22:

 

 

 

Total

 

 

W

L

Pct

Value

Bert Blyleven

1973

26

9

.740

35

Lou Whitaker

1979

18

7

.728

24

Tim Raines

1982

21

16

.571

23

Carlos Baerga

1991

19

14

.584

22

Alan Trammell

1980

18

13

.591

21

Juan Gonzalez

1992

18

14

.554

20

Roberto Alomar

1990

17

15

.526

18

John Olerud

1991

15

12

.565

17

Benito Santiago

1987

15

14

.529

16

Ellis Burks

1987

15

15

.501

15

 

             The aggregate won-lost record of the 36 players at age 22 was 262-206, and their overall value was 36% of what it would be at their peak.   As you can see, no one else in the group was really close to Blyleven in value at that age.  Most of the guys who were regulars at that age were just a little bit better-than-average players. 

 

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Candidate: 

Carlos Baerga

Rank:

32nd

Nickname if he had grown up in a Mob Family:

Beggars

Votes: 

Zero, Zero %

Career Win Shares and Loss Shares:

151-140, .519

Best Season:

1993, 23-9 (Cleveland)

 

            Carlos Baerga, who came up with Cleveland in 1990, played at a level suggestive of Hall of Fame ability early in his career.   He had 205 hits in 1992, 200 in 1993, and hit over .300 both of those years with at least 20 homers and at least 100 RBI.   He played equally well in 1994, although the season was shortened by a strike.   He was a third baseman/second baseman, and an infielder who could rack up those kind of numbers at a young age was perceived as a player who could go all the way.

            Baerga suddenly stopped playing well in 1996; this was initially blamed on a shoulder strain, and later on bad knees.   Whatever it was, his last good year was at age 25 (1995); in 1996-1997 his won-lost contributions were 11-16 and 11-18.  He retired at the age of 30, made a comeback in 2002 and was a good bench player for a couple of seasons.

 

 

Performance at Age 23

 

            From ages 19 to 22 Bert Blyleven was by far the best player in this group.   At age 23, although still the best pitcher in the group (21-10), Blyleven slipped to 7th overall, as many of the young position players stepped forward as stars.   Don Mattingly played at a near-MVP level (.343, 23 homers, 110 RBI; we score the season at 27-5.)   Mark McGwire shattered the record for Home Runs by a rookie with 49 (24-5).   Tim Raines scored 133 runs, drew 97 walks and stole 90 bases (25-9).   Juan Gonzalez hit .310 with 46 homers (23-5).   Carlos Baerga hit .312 with 20 homers, 105 RBI, 205 hits (23-11).   Jeff Bagwell was the NL Rookie of the Year, hitting .294 with 15 homers, 82 RBI (21-9).

            At the age of 23, 34 of the 36 Hall of Fame candidates were in the major leagues; the only two who were not were Edgar Martinez and Bobby Higginson.   Twenty-four of those players were regulars or more-or-less regulars, the 24th man (by value) being Dale Murphy, who hit .276 with 21 homers in 104 games, although he was having massive defensive problems at the time.

             The aggregate won-lost contribution of the 36 players at age 23 was 430 wins, 282 losses, and they had attained 63% of their peak value by age 23.

 

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Candidate:  

Benito Santiago

Rank:

31st

Mob Family Nickname:

Neato

Votes: 

1, 0.2%

Career Win Shares and Loss Shares:

191-201, .487

Best Season:

1996, 17-10 (Philadelphia)

 

            Benito Santiago hit .300 as a rookie in 1987, had a long hitting streak, hit 18 homers, stole 21 bases, won the Rookie of the Year Award, and was generally regarded, as a 22-year-old rookie, as the best catcher in baseball.   Although he had a 20-year major league career he was unable to sustain the level at which he came in to the league, let alone go forward.  He never hit .300 again, apart from one injury season of 29 at bats; in fact, he never hit .280 again as a regular. He never stole 20 bases again, as catching quickly took away his speed, and he stole less than 100 bases in his career.   He hit as many as 18 homers only one more time, when he hit 30 in 1996.

            There were two problems—one, that catching creates constant injury issues that make it difficult to sustain excellence as a hitter, and two, that Benito, in his brilliant rookie season, had a strikeout to walk ratio of 112 to 16—112 to 14 if you don’t count the two intentional walks.   Although he was tremendously strong and had a nice, quick stroke, his inability to control the strike zone undermined him as a hitter.   Once the pitchers found out that they didn’t have to throw him a strike, they didn’t.   He was, however, a very good defensive catcher, throwing out 35% of base stealers in his career, and he ranks third among these 36 Hall of Fame candidates in career defensive winning percentage (63-24, .724).

 

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Performance at Age 24

 

            By the age of 24 all 36 of the Hall of Fame candidates that we are considering here were in the major leagues.   Three of them played at an MVP level.   Don Mattingly actually won the MVP Award for the Yankees, hitting .324 with 35 homers, 145 RBI, and we rank him as the third-best player in the group (28-6 for Mattingly, behind Tim Raines (31-3) and John Olerud (29 + 2).   Seven other players in the group played at an All-Star level at age 24—Dave Parker (25-7), Jeff Bagwell (24-10), Roberto Alomar (23-7), Barry Larkin (23-9), Carlos Baerga (23-9), Dale Murphy (23-9), and Bert Blyleven (23-10).    Four others were high quality regulars—Raul Mondesi (20-8), Mark McGwire (20-10), Larry Walker (19-7), and Harold Baines (20-14).   If you took an All-Star team of these players at the age of 24, you would win the pennant in a walk.  

            31 of the 36 players were regulars or near-regulars by age 24, the exceptions being Bret Boone, Kirk Rueter, Lenny Harris, Edgar Martinez and Al Leiter.   The aggregate won-lost contribution of the 36 players was 575-315, a .646 Winning Percentage, and the group’s value at age 24 was 88% of their peak value.

 

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Candidate: 

Bret Boone

Rank:

30th

Mob Family Nickname:

BeeBee

Votes: 

1, 0.2%

Career Win Shares and Loss Shares:

184-184, .500

Best Season:

2001, 28-5 (Seattle)

 

             Boone is sort of the opposite of Carlos Baerga—a second baseman who started slowly, but played at a Hall of Fame level in his early thirties; in fact, if you splice their careers together, you can make a Hall of Fame second baseman:

 

AGE

G

AB

R

H

2B

3B

HR

RBI

BB

SO

SB

AVG

OBA

SLG

OPS

21

108

312

46

81

17

2

7

47

16

57

0

.260

.300

.394

.694

22

158

593

80

171

28

2

11

69

48

74

3

.288

.346

.398

.744

23

161

657

92

205

32

1

20

105

35

76

10

.312

.354

.455

.809

24

154

624

105

200

28

6

21

114

34

68

15

.321

.355

.486

.840

25

103

442

81

139

32

2

19

80

10

45

8

.314

.333

.525

.858

26

135

557

87

175

28

2

15

90

35

31

11

.314

.355

.452

.807

27

100

424

54

113

25

0

10

55

16

25

1

.267

.302

.396

.698

28

133

467

53

131

25

1

9

52

20

54

2

.281

.311

.396

.707

29

157

583

76

155

38

1

24

95

48

104

6

.266

.324

.458

.782

30

152

608

102

153

38

1

20

63

47

112

14

.252

.310

.416

.726

31

127

463

61

116

18

2

19

74

50

97

8

.251

.326

.421

.747

32

158

623

118

206

37

3

37

141

40

110

5

.331

.372

.578

.950

33

155

608

88

169

34

3

24

107

53

102

12

.278

.339

.462

.801

34

159

622

111

183

35

5

35

117

68

125

16

.294

.366

.535

.902

35

148

593

74

149

30

0

24

83

56

135

10

.251

.317

.423

.740

36

88

326

33

72

15

3

7

37

28

65

4

.221

.290

.350

.639

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2196

8502

1261

2418

460

34

302

1329

604

1280

125

.284

.336

.453

.789

 

             That’s Carlos Boone; Carlos Baerga up to the age of 28, Bret Boone after the age of 28.   I’ve been told many times, although I don’t have the stats, that Boone was actually a below-average hitter in college, at USC.   This comes up in draft rooms, because there is always somebody who wants to draft some player who can’t hit, so somebody else always says "Tell me a player who hit like this in college who became a good major league hitter", and the first scout always says "Bret Boone."   He’s the exception that proves the rule.

 

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Performance at Age 25

 

            At the age of 25:

            All 36 of these players were in the major leagues,

            34 of them were regulars or near-regulars,

            24 of them were high-quality regulars or better,

            6 played at an All-Star level, plus 6 more at a near-All Star level, and

            2 played at an MVP level, although neither happened to win the Award.

 

            The two players who were not regulars at age 25 were Edgar Martinez and Al Leiter.  The two who played at an MVP level were Don Mattingly (.352 with 31 homers, 113 RBI, 238 hits including 53 doubles) and Tim Raines (.320 with 30 doubles, 13 triples, 11 homers, 81 walks, 70 stolen bases); I score Mattingly at 29-5 and Raines at 28-2.   The other four All-Stars were Fred McGriff (27-5), Roberto Alomar (24-7), Alan Trammell (22-5), and Jeff Bagwell (22-7).   Near the All-Star level were Raul Mondesi (23-10), Larry Walker (22-7),  Harold Baines (22-8), Lou Whitaker (21-10), Dave Parker (20-10) and Rafael Palmeiro (20-12).   The best pitcher was still Blyleven (20-13, just off the "near All Star" level.)

            The aggregate won-lost record of the 36 players at the age of 25 was 584-286, a .671 percentage.   By the age of 25 these players were at 92% of their peak value. 

 

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Candidate: 

Al Leiter

Rank:

29th

Mob Family Nickname:

Cigs

Votes: 

4, 0.7%

Career Win Shares and Loss Shares:

176-147, .545

Best Season:

1998, 20-5 (Mets)

 

             Al Leiter, a left-handed pitcher drafted by the Yankees in 1984, emerged over the next two years as a huge, highly publicized prospect, despite very unimpressive performance in the minor leagues.  For several years after that he battled blisters on his fingers that interfered with his ability to pitch.   Traded to the Blue Jays in 1989, he overcame the blisters but was set back by a pinched nerve in his elbow, tendinitis and two arthroscopic surgeries on his left arm or shoulder.

             Finally straightened out in 1993—he was in his late twenties—Leiter was a fine pitcher from 1995 through 2004, posting won-loss equivalencies of 15-8 (1995), 20-11 (1996), 20-5 (1998), 19-11 (2000), 15-13 (2002) and 16-9 (2004).   If he had gotten started five years earlier, he would have been a viable Hall of Fame candidate.

 

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Performance at Age 26

 

             This group of 36 players reached their peak at the age of 26.   I have traditionally used 27 as the peak age for groups of players, and we hear a lot of hooey now about players reaching their peaks at ages 32 to 35, but. . .this group of players reached their peak at the age of 26.

             I consider a Win Share Value of 40 to be an MVP season.  We have no "40s" here, but four players at 38 or 39—Dave Parker (28-5), Jeff Bagwell (25+4), Tim Raines (26-3) and Fred McGriff (26-3).   Bagwell, with a Win Share Value of 39 in just 110 games in a strike-shortened season, was a unanimous MVP selection in 1994, aged 26.  Dave Parker, winning the National League batting title at .338 and with power, speed and defense, finished third in the NL MVP voting; he would win it the next year.   Raines, hitting .334, finished sixth in an MVP vote that he perhaps should have won, while Fred McGriff, hitting .300 with 35 homers and 94 walks, finished only 9th in the MVP voting, largely because he drove in only 88 runs.  (In fact, he did not hit well in RBI situations.) 

             Following those four we have eight more players having seasons of All-Star quality and two actual MVPs.   The eight are Raul Mondesi, 1997 (25-7), Alan Trammell, 1984 (24-5), Mark McGwire, 1990 (25-7), Lou Whitaker, 1983 (25-8), Rafael Palmeiro, 1991 (24-7), Barry Larkin, 1990 (24-9), Don Mattingly, 1987 (23-7), and Dale Murphy, 1982 (23-10).   Murphy won the 1982 National League MVP Award, due to a combination of circumstances—his team came out of nowhere to win the division, he played in the best hitter’s park in the league, people were tired of voting for Mike Schmidt, and nobody else really had a great year.   Juan Gonzalez, aged 26 in 1996, also won the American League Award.   I don’t really see him as being a legitimate MVP candidate, let alone a legitimate MVP.   I’ll explain why when I get to him.

             The aggregate won-lost record of the 36 players at age 26 was 637-310.  Although the players had more playing time at ages 27 and 28, more at bats and more innings, they played far better at ages 25 and 26 (.671 and .673 winning percentages).    All 36 of these players were in the majors at age 26, and all of them except Lenny Harris were regulars or near-regulars.

 

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Candidate: 

Raul Mondesi

Rank:

28th

Mob Family Nickname:

Daisy

Votes: 

Zero, Zero %

Career Win Shares and Loss Shares:

186-127, .595

Best Season:

1997, 25-7 (Dodgers)

 

             OK, we have crossed a threshold here.  I recognize seven grades of Hall of Fame candidates:

 

Group

Win

 

 

Share

 

 

Value

 

A

450 or more

Obvious Hall of Famers

B

400 or more

More-than-Qualified Hall of Famers of a type who are almost universally selected fairly quickly.

C

350 to 399

Fully qualified candidates who are presumptive Hall of Famers, unless there is some peculiar reason that they shouldn't be. In general, I endorse the Hall of Fame candidacy of these players.

D

300 to 349

Qualified Hall of Fame candidates of a type that are selected more often than not, often after a long wait.  In my view there are some players in this range who are good Hall of Fame candidates, and some who are not.

E

250 to 299

Marginal candidates.   There are many players in this range who are in the Hall of Fame; there are dozens or hundreds who are not.   In my view, players in this range should in general not be selected to the Hall of Fame, unless there is some unusual reason why they should.

F

200 to 249

Fringe candidates.   There are players like this who have somehow managed to get into the Hall of Fame, because Hall of Fame voting is often not well considered, and there may even be one or two players in this range who should be in.    But in general, players in this range of stature do not belong in the Hall of Fame.

G

Less than 200

Players who are not Hall of Famers.

 

             There are no "A’s" in this group of candidates; A’s are like Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle and Mike Schmidt.   There are none of those here.   Albert Pujols will be an "A".  

             Up to this point, we have been dealing with players in Group G—players who were good enough to be put onto the ballot to test the response, but players who were not really Hall of Fame candidates, as was recognized by almost all of the voters.   We have crossed the line now; you probably don’t like this fact, I’m guessing, but there are a few players in the Hall of Fame who were no better than Raul Mondesi.   He represents, for us, the bottom of the bottom group of real Hall of Fame candidates.  

             For a player of the quality of Raul Mondesi to make the Hall of Fame, he generally has to have three out of four things going for him.   First, he needs to be well liked.   Second, he needs to play for championship teams.   Third, he generally needs to play several key seasons in New York City.  And fourth, he needs to play in a park or in a place that flatters his skills, making him look like he might have been better than he was.   Mondesi was 0-for-4.

 

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Performance at Age 27

 

             While I have traditionally regarded 27 as the prime moment of a player’s career, this group of 36 players did not play well at age 27.   Baerga and Boone were both not very good at age 27—Baerga fading and Boone still struggling at the plate.   Ellis Burks was injured, Neato Santiago had a bad year, Al Leiter was still trying to put his career together, John Olerud had an off year, Mark McGwire hit .201, B. J. Surhoff hit .252 with 4 homers in 480 at bats, Jack Morris was 17-16 with a league-average ERA, and Alan Trammell was a .500 player.

             There were also many fine players in the group at age 27, but this is a field of Hall of Fame candidates; that many short-circuits is more than usual.   The aggregate won-lost record of the 36 players at age 27 was 591-368, down 52 games (52 Win Shares—actually 17 games) from age 26.

             On the up side, Dave Parker (27-3) and Dale Murphy (26-6) were the best two players in the group, and both were voted MVP at that age.   Three other players were of All-Star quality, Raines, Larkin and McGriff, but that makes five players of All-Star quality in the group at age 27, whereas at age 26 there had been twelve, and at age 24 there had been eleven.

             This is the performance summary for the 36 players at every age.   The categories of this chart are the count of the number of players in the major leagues at that age, their batting win shares, batting loss shares, fielding wins and fielding losses, pitching win shares and loss shares, their total win shares and losses shares, their winning percentage, their value by the formula I have been using here, and the percentage of their peak value that the group had at this age:

 

 

 

 

Batting

Fielding

Pitching

Total

 

 

 

Age

Count

W

L

W

L

W

L

Wins

Losses

W Pct

Value

Pct of Peak

19

4

1

7

1

1

11

8

13

16

.451

12

1%

20

8

28

30

14

3

21

11

64

44

.592

74

9%

21

16

96

77

24

25

21

14

141

116

.548

154

19%

22

30

174

142

47

46

41

18

262

206

.560

291

36%

23

34

307

181

80

67

44

34

430

282

.604

506

63%

24

36

397

204

100

79

77

33

575

315

.646

706

88%

25

36

407

168

98

71

79

47

584

286

.671

735

92%

26

36

444

193

110

73

83

44

637

310

.673

801

100%

27

36

398

229

96

81

97

59

591

368

.616

702

88%

28

36

427

212

102

74

89

66

618

353

.637

751

94%

29

36

394

166

77

73

84

63

555

302

.647

681

85%

30

36

361

191

72

73

95

49

529

313

.628

638

80%

31

35

388

198

73

77

82

40

543

315

.633

657

82%

32

35

406

205

71

81

97

42

574

328

.636

697

87%

33

36

350

203

63

75

102

55

515

333

.607

606

76%

34

35

347

180

56

70

87

63

491

313

.610

585

73%

35

31

306

174

40

71

86

58

432

302

.588

500

62%

36

30

235

164

33

57

82

46

350

267

.567

396

49%

37

26

179

103

19

39

56

55

254

197

.564

285

36%

38

21

133

102

15

29

64

37

213

169

.557

240

30%

39

17

72

63

7

20

30

46

108

128

.458

106

13%

40

11

64

49

3

16

8

8

74

73

.503

76

10%

41

4

18

18

0

4

5

9

24

31

.433

20

3%

42

3

1

8

0

1

3

2

4

10

.295

5

1%

43

1

0

0

0

0

3

3

3

3

.495

3

0%

44

1

0

0

0

0

1

1

1

1

.438

1

0%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5932

3266

1203

1206

1449

912

8584

5384

.615

10226

 

 

             That will do it for today; we have 36 players to discuss and this makes nine, so I’ll break here and pick it up tomorrow with B. J. Surhoff.

 
 

COMMENTS (9 Comments, most recent shown first)

CharlesSaeger
jdw: Bill makes it explicit that DHes are NOT 0-0 afield in the Win Shares formulas. More like 0-5.
2:04 PM Jan 18th
 
CharlesSaeger
Bill, what's your mob family nickname? Casey Numbers?
8:59 PM Jan 17th
 
jdw
It will be interesting to see who gets to the B Level of 400+ WSV. In the 3B tourney, only Chipper (450) and Brooks (418) got to that level. Chipper had a 142 OPS+ in 9654 PA.

162/7660 McGwire
149/9431 Bagwell
147/8672 Edgar
142/9654 Chipper
140/8030 Larry Walker

I think that looks good for Bagwell given the better OPS+, the similar PAs. Even with the position difference, 50 WSV of margin for Bagwell.

Edgar is further down in PA, but a good OPS+ advantage. 0-0 defensively for a lot of years. That will be interesting.

Walker looks too far down in PA to get to 400+, but he's going to be very interesting to see crunched. I recall Helton doing better than expected when Bill did him: Denver washed out a lot, but not all. Helton has dropped below Walker in OPS+, and there is a position difference that may favor Walker. He should meet at least one of Bill's HOF criteria (+100 W-L). It will be interesting to see how close he comes to others.

Mac looks to be a lock to lead at least hitters in W%. Low PA's, but think of it this way:

Chipper: 333-99 = .771 W% = 450 WSV

If Mac is 300-100, that's a .750 W% and a 400 WSV. That's a worse W% than Chipper, when he probably has a better one.that's having enough volume to fill 400 W+L Shares, which Chipper only got to 432 with 2000 more PA.

285-50 is a .851 W% and gets to 403 WSV on 335 W+L Shares. Sort of shows how high of a W% you need to get ones you start dropping in W+L Shares. 20 points of OPS is a lot, though.

Next guys down:

132/12046 Palmeiro
134/10174 McGriff

Rafey clearly has the PA and OPS to clear 400, probably rather easy. Interesting to see how close he gets to 450.

Based on a prior piece, Crime Dog looks to be right on the boarder line.

Others with a good number of PA and high OBP:

123/10359 Raines
116/10400 Alomar

Alomar's defense will be interesting to watch. Raines looks to be in the range of 171-39 for 237 WSV through 1987, just guessing in the range of a 25-2 for 1987 based on the missed month. Needs around 165 to get to 400 WSV. He has about 44% of his career PA's by this point, but it's the meaty part of his career:

.308/.394/.446/.840 through 1987 (4500+ PA)
.282/.376/.408/.785 after 1987 (5800+ PA)

Lots of injuries and partial years. The quality isn't bad, though a chunk of that is when offense goes up.

Would love when he's done to see a seasonal break down for Tim similar to the guys in the 3B tourney.
8:22 PM Jan 17th
 
cderosa
Thanks jdw, Bill.
7:15 PM Jan 17th
 
jdw
To be a bit clearer, Bill explained the formula here:

http://www.billjamesonline.net/ArticleContent.aspx?AID=1415&Code=James01028

(3*W – L)/ 2
or
W + (W – L)/2

Which in rounded numbers for a 23-14 would be 27.5, but Bill's workbooks would have the decimals which make it 27.66.
6:37 PM Jan 17th
 
bjames
That's not what it says. That's 28--, not 28-
6:13 PM Jan 17th
 
cderosa
Thanks for the rundown, Bill. Fun! Could you clarify the win share value formula? I'm reading the comment as saying (28-23)+(23-14)/2 = 27.66, which ain't so.

FYI, throughout his career, I called Edgar Martinez "Edgar the Hammer." Has sort of a Luca Brasi feel I think.


6:10 PM Jan 17th
 
jdw
The Mattingly-Olerud matchup is one that I look forward to. Olerud with a 128-127 OPS+ advantage, and a 1342 PA advantage. I think we know Donnie will get beat up by the big 1B boys on the ballot (Bagwell, McGwire, McGwire, Palmeiro), but ending up behind someone who got just 4 votes doesn't speak well of his candidacy.
5:33 PM Jan 17th
 
rgregory1956
I must admit that I'm a rather bland person. So this is kind of depressing, but if I had grown up in a Mob family, my nickname would still have been "Bob".
4:45 PM Jan 17th
 
 
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